Warning very disturbing

[strmrdr]

Teacher to student:
"Carve deeper next time,"

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-teachers3-2009may03,0,5765040,full.story

 

[Tuckins1]

Oh my word. If that is really true and he really did say that.... Disgusting.

I worked at an elementary school and there was a horrible man who was a 5th grade teacher. He would cuss at the kids (using the f word and the s word...) I had students come to me crying on a regular basis because of hurtful things that he had said to them. But, because he was tenured, it was VERY difficult to get rid of him! They ended up having to tranfer him to another school- so now i''m sure he''s torturing a whole new group of students.

 

[Italiahaircolor]

In a case like you pointed out, I really couldn''t care less what it took to fire him--just do it. Even if it meant paying a salary for umpteen years...who cares? The important part is not exposing students to him and his absolutely disgusting behavior. Not everything can come down to dollar and cents, sometimes it just the well being of the students.

 

[tigian]

Totally unacceptable! He should be fired no matter the cost! He has no business being an educator.

 

[bee*]

That''s crazy! He should definitely be shown the door straight away.

 

[gwendolyn]

What on earth was someone like him doing in the teaching profession in the first place?! Makes me absolutely disgusted to share a job title with a monster like that.

 

[geckodani]

Oh, my god. Unbelievable. I don''t care how arduous the process- you don''t leave teachers like that where they can influence kids!!!!

 

[isaku5]

The principal should have done everything possible to make sure this @#$% never sees the inside of a classroom again.

If the story is accurate, he should have been unceremoniously turfed the day he uttered those words.

 

[jet2ks]

No arguments that if the story is true, this guy should be out--the problem is getting him there. If a tenured teacher fights the termination, they win WAY too often and are put back in the classroom, not by the principal, but by the courts and review panels. The article mentions this, "The teacher, the panel concluded, was trying "to defuse the awkward situation." and also "that In Polanco's case, for example, L.A. Unified administrators began firing proceedings before giving him the required 45 days' "notice of unprofessional conduct" " In other words, the school had to legally leave him in the classroom for a minimum of a month and a half before they could do anything. Talk about handcuffing the administration!

I watched this a couple times when teaching. At one school we had a principal put three years into documenting how bad one of the English teachers was and they still couldn't get rid of him. Meanwhile young teachers still on "probation" were non-renewed because of political stuff, even though they were awesome for the kids. How about firing a non-tenured teacher because a school board member's child got a bad grade or because a teacher tried to implement some changes to improve a music program and a superintendent that knew nothing about music decided they didn't like those changes? I've been around both of those, as well, and those two people are no longer teaching because they got fired for doing the right thing.

The part I can't believe in that story is how the court put the PE teacher back in the classroom because the principal had TOO MUCH observation and documentation and this somehow undermined the teacher?!?!?!?!?

 

[Diamond*Dana]

Wow, that is awful. I cannot believe that he was not fired.

 

[dianne]

I have no words...and that''s unusual for me....I am absolutely stunned.