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Trump: "President Obama founded ISIS"

Exerpt from link above:

Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) - The DSM Criteria

Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) is listed in the American Psychiatric Association’s Diagnostic & Statistical Manual (DSM) as an Axis II, Cluster B (dramatic, emotional, or erratic) Disorder:

A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

1. has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
2. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
3. believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
4. requires excessive admiration
5. has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations
6. is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends)
7. lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others
8. is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her
9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

More than any other disorder on the PD spectrum, narcissists are like psychological vampires, attaching themselves to you in a way that drains you of your resources (emotional, mental and financial) and leaves you questioning your own worth and sanity.

Often, narcissists are able to imitate or approximate caring about others when it is convenient for them to do so. However, they typically do not perceive that anything outside of their own sphere of wants and needs matters. It simply doesn't occur to them to consider the needs of anyone else, or the long-term consequences of their own behaviors.

Narcissists can be highly intelligent, witty, talented, likable, and fun to be around. They can also elicit sympathy like nobody's business.

Narcissists are opportunistic. They can make a show of being "generous" but their generosity usually has strings attached.

They tend to isolate their victims, sucking up their time and energy, many times robbing their own families, spouses and partners of an external support system.

Narcissists are excellent liars and many prefer to lie even when telling the truth would be more beneficial to them; which suggests that lying is a hallmark of this pathology.

They are often highly competitive and argumentative. They lash out when presented with opinions that contradict their own or when confronted with their own lies or bad behaviors.

They can be calculating and extremely persuasive and susceptible to erratic thinking and impulsive decision making .

Narcissists can be self-destructive as often as they are destructive to others. They have a great deal of trouble accepting responsibility for their own actions, under any circumstance.

Narcissists are addictive personalities and narcissism is commonly co-morbid with addictions to drugs, alcohol, sex, food, spending and gambling. It has been suggested that Narcissists have a higher rate of ADHD than the general population.

Narcissists are rarely alone. They like to feed on the energy of others, and to have an audience to reflect back to them the person they want to see themselves as.

Narcissists are good at pretending, but typically do not feel compassion or empathy or consider the feelings or well-being of others. They tend to be singularly focused on getting their own needs met, at the expense of the needs of others.

While narcissists generally portray a lack of conscience, they typically have an intellectual awareness of what they are doing and how they hurt others. They simply do not care.
 
Gypsy|1471086684|4065448 said:
AGBF|1471086049|4065444 said:
Thank you Gypsy and ksinger for your personal examples. I think that they will help people to understand Donald Trump more than anything else. I am attaching a link to an old article from "The New York Times" that may also be useful, since it is brief and not too filled with jargon.

Link...http://www.nytimes.com/1982/03/16/science/new-focus-on-narcissism-offers-analysts-insight-into-grandiosity-and.html?pagewanted=all

Deb/AGBF :wavey:
That was a little unrelatable for me as the focus was on treatment methods. This is a very straight forward and still comprehensive summary: http://outofthefog.website/personality-disorders-1/2015/12/6/narcissistic-personality-disorder-npd

::)

Please note diagnosis criteria is 5 out of 9 of the criteria. Trump has all 9.

Creepy. And my aunt had all 9 too.

Oh, and I forgot to mention - about the aunt, her husband and she fought a lot. He foolishly thought he could control her, but after many years, she finally broke him. In the end, he moved into another room in the house, and bought a lock for the door, and told her that if she ever came in that room, he'd kill her. I don't know if he really would have, but I know that one of the things that generally will actually cow a narcissist, are threats of violence to them. She did back off some, when my cousin - probably at the breaking point - lashed out and kicked her. It didn't make her nicer, but she tippy-toed around my cousin a bit more and gave her a wider berth, which I'm sure was a huge relief.
 
My dad had all nine. My mom has 6.

The list of behaviors is the creepy part for me. How many of those Trump displays is just terrifying.
 
Gypsy|1471086684|4065448 said:
That was a little unrelatable for me as the focus was on treatment methods. This is a very straight forward and still comprehensive summary: http://outofthefog.website/personality-disorders-1/2015/12/6/narcissistic-personality-disorder-npd

Your link (and thank you for printing out some of what was on the website) was far more helpful than mine. When you and K started to discuss your families I was transported back to my earliest days as a social worker when a diagnosis of borderline personality disorder and narcissistic personality disorder were brand new ideas and everyone was attending workshops by Otto Kernberg and James Masterson. One of my clients was seen by Dr. Masterson who used him for a demonstration at a lecture. My client told me that he saw the doctor scribble on a notepad, while he was there, "the most selfish man I ever met".

AGBF
 
AGBF|1471088608|4065454 said:
Gypsy|1471086684|4065448 said:
That was a little unrelatable for me as the focus was on treatment methods. This is a very straight forward and still comprehensive summary: http://outofthefog.website/personality-disorders-1/2015/12/6/narcissistic-personality-disorder-npd

Your link (and thank you for printing out some of what was on the website) was far more helpful than mine. When you and K started to discuss your families I was transported back to my earliest days as a social worker when a diagnosis of borderline personality disorder and narcissistic personality disorder were brand new ideas and everyone was attending workshops by Otto Kernberg and James Masterson. One of my clients was seen by Dr. Masterson who used him for a demonstration at a lecture. My client told me that he saw the doctor scribble on a notepad, while he there, "the most selfish man I ever met".

AGBF
Yikes. You know it's bad then!
 
redwood66|1471058613|4065359 said:
AGBF|1471055632|4065349 said:
AnnaH|1471034471|4065258 said:
Not going to defend Trump ... However, both the President and Clinton made unfounded statements against Trump and the growth of ISIS before Trump's recent statements. Obama blamed Trump for the growth of ISIS. Clinton called Trump their best recruiter, saying he was in ISIS videos.

If you're not posting to defend Trump, what's your point? I mean, the President was right. Trump has sought to make make the US look like a country that hates all Muslims, which makes it easier for ISIS to recruit. Trump's antics are indefensible since they help ISIS, therefore Secretary Clinton was correct.

I believe her point is that the president and Clinton are not above scrutiny when it comes to ISIS or making inflammatory statements for effect. This is not the Hillary Clinton Cheerleader Forum. Or maybe it mostly is but not all of us are on the squad or want to be. :D
Just because Trump is an idiot does not make her or the president infallible or above reproach.

This that I posted above came out of the linked article.

Posting again.

Michael Hayden, former director of the CIA and NSA, said on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" on Thursday that Trump could have made a valid point for connecting Obama and ISIS.

"The actions of the Obama administration in withdrawing from Iraq … actually set the conditions for the recovery of al Qaeda in Iraq, which then became ISIS," Hayden said. "So there's a very powerful case to be made."

But Hayden, who co-signed an open letter this week with other foreign policy and security experts saying they won't back the real estate mogul, said Trump's comments were far too inflammatory.

Thanks, Red. Glad you don't find my posts difficult to follow. :D
 
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