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transgender bathroom issue and what we teach our children

jaaron

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I have three boys. One thing I have tried to make clear throughout their lives is that by virtue of being born white, male and in America, they are automatically in the most fortunate 1% of the world’s population. I want them to understand this not to feel bad about it, but because I want them to realise that no one chooses or earns or necessarily deserves the circumstances they’re born into. And that part of living a life of privilege and good fortune is caring about, and for, those who don’t have the same advantages. I’ve even tried to apply this thinking (with some success, although possibly not enough) to understanding why people who voted for Donald Trump believe he will help improve their lives.

Depending on what statistic you read, the attempted suicide rate for transgender teens is between 30 and 50 % vs. about 17 % for students in grades 9-12 in general. While I don’t have first-hand experience of it, I am willing to believe that having to struggle against everything society expects just simply to be who you are is a long, arduous and terrifying process. And to me, the right to comfort and safety for the person enduring that trumps my right to decide who pees in the next stall. Not a legal argument, perhaps, but laws do, or are supposed to, have their roots in morality.

I really want my children to understand that being part of the majority does not give you the right to decide that what we enjoy as basic human rights don’t apply to the minority. I honestly don’t see how this is any different from the people who believed African Americans should stay at the back of the bus? I suspect most of them made the same arguments about violence and fear, separate but equal.
 
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It really is amazing to me that this is even an issue. It amazes me that people don't see the parallels from history. That they don't get that "but it makes me uncomfortable" is exactly what has been said by every group of people trying to suppress another group. For example:

-Whites who didn't want POC to get to use the same water fountain, schools, bus seats, etc etc etc (and obviously whites who wanted POC to remain SLAVES).

-Straight men trying to keep gays and women out of the military.

-Men trying to keep women out of the workplace; the voting booth; as property owners, etc.

-Homophobes who don't want to provide business services that they would have no issue providing to straight people.

-Children with disabilities being allowed to go to school with "regular" kids.

BUT IT MAKES ME UNCOMFORTABLE was their cacophonous refrain in all of these instances.

If you feel this way, then maybe it's time for you to reevaluate.

It's so strange to me that "progressives" are the ones we celebrate as being on the right side of history in every single one of those instances I referenced above; and yet we STILL have so many people that never want change (or even want to regress!), because they actually believe that this is "right" from a moral perspective. We can have opinions, but the fact is, history views one side as morally "right", and one side as morally "wrong". Why do people continue to consciously choose the side that has been consistently morally wrong throughout history?
 
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jaaron|1487958725|4133011 said:
I have three boys. One thing I have tried to make clear throughout their lives is that by virtue of being born white, male and in America, they are automatically in the most fortunate 1% of the world’s population. I want them to understand this not to feel bad about it, but because I want them to realise that no one chooses or earns or necessarily deserves the circumstances they’re born into. And that part of living a life of privilege and good fortune is caring about, and for, those who don’t have the same advantages. I’ve even tried to apply this thinking (with some success, although possibly not enough) to understanding why people who voted for Donald Trump believe he will help improve their lives.

Depending on what statistic you read, the attempted suicide rate for transgender teens is between 30 and 50 % vs. about 17 % for students in grades 9-12 in general. While I don’t have first-hand experience of it, I am willing to believe that having to struggle against everything society expects just simply to be who you are is a long, arduous and terrifying process. And to me, the right to comfort and safety for the person enduring that trumps my right to decide who pees in the next stall. Not a legal argument, perhaps, but laws do, or are supposed to, have their roots in morality.

I really want my children to understand that being part of the majority does not give you the right to decide that what we enjoy as basic human rights don’t apply to the minority. I honestly don’t see how this is any different from the people who believed African Americans should stay at the back of the bus? I suspect most of them made the same arguments about violence and fear, separate but equal.

This is the best attitude, and one I wish others would understand. When people complain about "reverse racism", or that POC/homosexual/disabled/trans people don't "need extra rights", it drives me crazy. No one is forcing someone who is male/white/privileged to feel guilty, or to hate themselves. We are simply asking that these people RECOGNIZE their privileges, and to understand that others don't have them so it's necessary to be compassionate and to help people without opportunities get them. As a middle class white woman, I know that I have had many opportunities that others haven't. Do I spend all day feeling horrible and hating myself? No (or at least most of the time I don't), but I try to be aware of other people's circumstances and experiences, and to realize that many people need to be provided with the opportunities that I had daily and didn't realize until I was older were privileges.
 
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Apparently, some people think LGBT means Let's Go Back in Time. :nono:

ETA: Great post, Jaaron!
 
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Well said, jaaron! :appl:
 
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Yes great post Jaaron!

I am hearing some people equate being transgender with being mentally ill. OMG it is truly history repeating itself over and over again. Remember when some people thought you being homosexual was a mental illness that you could "fix". Surreal this whole thing.





jaaron said:
I have three boys. One thing I have tried to make clear throughout their lives is that by virtue of being born white, male and in America, they are automatically in the most fortunate 1% of the world’s population. I want them to understand this not to feel bad about it, but because I want them to realise that no one chooses or earns or necessarily deserves the circumstances they’re born into. And that part of living a life of privilege and good fortune is caring about, and for, those who don’t have the same advantages. I’ve even tried to apply this thinking (with some success, although possibly not enough) to understanding why people who voted for Donald Trump believe he will help improve their lives.

Depending on what statistic you read, the attempted suicide rate for transgender teens is between 30 and 50 % vs. about 17 % for students in grades 9-12 in general. While I don’t have first-hand experience of it, I am willing to believe that having to struggle against everything society expects just simply to be who you are is a long, arduous and terrifying process. And to me, the right to comfort and safety for the person enduring that trumps my right to decide who pees in the next stall. Not a legal argument, perhaps, but laws do, or are supposed to, have their roots in morality.

I really want my children to understand that being part of the majority does not give you the right to decide that what we enjoy as basic human rights don’t apply to the minority. I honestly don’t see how this is any different from the people who believed African Americans should stay at the back of the bus? I suspect most of them made the same arguments about violence and fear, separate but equal.
 
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Great post Jaaron! I bet you are a wonderful mom!
 
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Thank you for being such a kind and caring parent!
 
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Your post really resonated with me.

I was raised to be aware, but not afraid. I am not afraid to share a bathroom with a trans person. People seem content to go about life believing that everyone is out to harm them. It seems like such a sad, exhausting way to live.

I live a privileged existence. It would be a travesty to ignore my ability to make a positive impact on the lives of people who have a rockier road to happiness than I do.
 
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Elliot86|1487972815|4133188 said:
Your post really resonated with me.

I was raised to be aware, but not afraid. I am not afraid to share a bathroom with a trans person. People seem content to go about life believing that everyone is out to harm them. It seems like such a sad, exhausting way to live.

I live a privileged existence. It would be a travesty to ignore my ability to make a positive impact on the lives of people who have a rockier road to happiness than I do.
:appl: :appl: :love: :love: :love:
 
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