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:nono: I don't care who you are, what party you belong to, what your beliefs are. The tweets Sen. Scott received are horrible. He had a longer, more uplifting/unifying message as part of his overall remarks, but this link has a more concise video of him reading some of the tweets, and my heart just hurts for him watching him read them aloud. Shameful, especially since he advocated the reading of Mrs. King's words by ALL. :cry:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/senator-tim-scott-reads-out-nasty-tweets-hes-received-for-his-support-of-jeff-sessions/
 
I just watched it on the news and it breaks my heart because he is a good man.
 
JoCoJenn|1486601408|4126291 said:
(Yes, I have one)

:nono: I don't care who you are, what party you belong to, what your beliefs are. The tweets Sen. Scott received are horrible. He had a longer, more uplifting/unifying message as part of his overall remarks, but this link has a more concise video of him reading some of the tweets, and my heart just hurts for him watching him read them aloud. Shameful, especially since he advocated the reading of Mrs. King's words by ALL. :cry:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/senator-tim-scott-reads-out-nasty-tweets-hes-received-for-his-support-of-jeff-sessions/

Your video link didn't work for me, Jenn, so I went to YouTube and listened to Senator Scott's speech from The Senate floor. I have to admit that I went into this very skeptical. I thought that I was going to be annoyed by the Senator, that I was going to hear more Trump-type nonsense. Instead I came away extremely impressed. I really thought that Senator Scott was a towering figure, not only intellectual, but a rich human being, not afraid to dig deep into himself and express who he was as a man and to relive his family's history. I was very moved. He is extremely thoughtful. I hope the Republican Party never gets any ideas about running him for president. But I probably do not have to worry. If the Republicans were stupid enough to nominate Trump, they will probably never appreciate a Senator Tim Scott enough to want him to be their nominee for president! Thank you for sharing that video!

Deb/AGBF :wavey:
 
redwood66 said:
I just watched it on the news and it breaks my heart because he is a good man.

He really is (a good man).

I feel like a lot of what contributes to this behavior is when people of color allow eachother to make these slurs in 'jest' to each other; it makes it acceptable when it should never be.
 
I was able to view the link and video. All I have to say is this: I recently heard a liberal use the term "Uncle Tom" and was absolutely appalled and stated that. There was backpedaling and there was defensiveness. I was having none of it but that's beside the point because it just shouldn't have been said in the first place. I really don't know what it takes to change attitudes on either side of the political spectrum. I really don't. It is saddening and Jenn, yes, it's disheartening. Thanks for posting--I can still see your topics. ;))
 
monarch64|1486605828|4126332 said:
I can still see your topics. ;))

:clap: :dance: Thank you; I will sleep better tonight. :tongue:

(that really WAS a joke)



I have long admired Sen. Scott ... he really is one of the few, true good ones.
 
JoCoJenn|1486606338|4126335 said:
monarch64|1486605828|4126332 said:
I can still see your topics. ;))

:clap: :dance: Thank you; I will sleep better tonight. :tongue:

(that really WAS a joke)



I have long admired Sen. Scott ... he really is one of the few, true good ones.

Haha. I appreciate your sense of humor, Jenn. Hugs.
 
I must be on everybody's ignore list. You all talk to each other and no one says one word to me! ;))

Deb
 
I, like Deb, was skeptical of what this video would look like, but was 100% wrong. He seems like an upstanding guy who took a lot of abuse (racist abuse, at that!) for his nomination of Sessions, which is wrong.

In looking into him more just now, I found a piece about him on HuffPo (I know, not a favorite around here), that went gave more quotes from his speech. I think this part is especially critical:

In a remarkable floor speech, Scott explained why King’s letter was important, and why he voted against Warren, anyway.

“There is no doubt in my mind that the letter written by Coretta Scott King could, and perhaps should, be read by each and every member of this chamber,” Scott said. “Regardless of if you disagree with her conclusions, her standing in the history of our nation means her voice should be heard.”

Scott said what he objected to was Warren quoting the late Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-Mass), who in 1986 called Sessions a “disgrace” when Sessions was nominated for — and blocked from ― a federal judgeship.

“What I took issue with last night, and the true violation of Rule XIX in my eyes, were the remarks shared last night originally stated by Sen. Kennedy, not Coretta Scott King,” Scott said. McConnell specifically referenced King’s letter, and did not mention Kennedy’s words.

“Whether you like it or not, this body has rules, and we all should govern ourselves according to the rules,” Scott said.

If that was the attitude that McConnell had taken (that everyone must abide by the rules always, not just selectively when he dislikes someone), I might have felt differently about it. Although I disagree with many of his policies (After looking into his opinions about various issues), he seems like a stand up guy who fights for what he believes in.
 
AGBF|1486606815|4126339 said:
I must be on everybody's ignore list. You all talk to each other and no one says one word to me! ;))

Deb

Dear Deb:

ONE WORD.

XOXO,
MONNIE

:bigsmile: :lol:

Deb, I don't have you on "ignore!" I have enjoyed your posts for over a decade now. No way I'm ignoring you at this point!
 
AGBF|1486606815|4126339 said:
I must be on everybody's ignore list. You all talk to each other and no one says one word to me! ;))

Deb

I see you Deb. Thank you for taking the time to listen to his speech because he is an especially thoughtful and decent man with the best in mind for his constituents. I would be very proud to have him as my Senator.
 
I have no one on iggy, Deb. :wavey: Glad you (and others) enjoyed his remarks. I wish we had more people like him - with his heart & humble nature - on 'both sides of the aisle' in DC.
 
We need more like him in DC. No, I don't agree with his views always, but the thing about him is that he's not a blowhard.
 
He might be a great guy, but the fact that he's supporting Sessions, as a black man, just blows my mind. So...while there's no reason for him to receive such hate, I cannot take him seriously for supporting a legit piece of garbage. I really need him to explain his logic for that, because this reads as toeing the party line for the sake of not being primaried.

And to his comment about the "liberal left" not being tolerant of what they don't agree with: give me a f'ing break. That is far more descriptive of the right--otherwise we wouldn't have such things as a literal "muslim ban", people trying to overturn Roe v Wade and defund Planned Parenthood, people wanting to ban gay marriage, trying to roll out so-called Right to Work legislation to infringe upon the rights of anyone who wishes to collectively bargain for better wages and benefits, and a laundry list of other such bs.
 
I do not have anyone on ignore either.

But Deb if I did, you would be one of the LAST people to be on it.
 
JoCoJenn|1486601408|4126291 said:
(Yes, I have one)

:nono: I don't care who you are, what party you belong to, what your beliefs are. The tweets Sen. Scott received are horrible. He had a longer, more uplifting/unifying message as part of his overall remarks, but this link has a more concise video of him reading some of the tweets, and my heart just hurts for him watching him read them aloud. Shameful, especially since he advocated the reading of Mrs. King's words by ALL. :cry:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/senator-tim-scott-reads-out-nasty-tweets-hes-received-for-his-support-of-jeff-sessions/

http://crooksandliars.com/2016/07/scott-baio-not-sorry-tweeting-horrible
https://www.bustle.com/articles/185724-8-sexist-tweets-about-hillary-clintons-debate-performance-before-it-even-started
http://digg.com/video/bad-tweets-hillary-clinton-gop-women-video
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/12/02/mean-tweets-don-faze-maura-healey-elizabeth-warren/b51Tx5PyUz2pGrQyJEx36K/story.html
http://www.npr.org/2016/10/25/499284942/watch-obama-reads-mean-tweets-including-one-from-trump

I would hope you would feel just as hurt in your heart for these tweets above. There are many many more horrid, mean vindictive tweets and memes about Hillary Clinton, but you, she was a big girl and politics is not a nice place these last few years.

As far as this guy, good for him. I don't care what he tweets or reads.
 
lovedogs|1486607168|4126344 said:
I, like Deb, was skeptical of what this video would look like, but was 100% wrong. He seems like an upstanding guy who took a lot of abuse (racist abuse, at that!) for his nomination of Sessions, which is wrong.

In looking into him more just now, I found a piece about him on HuffPo (I know, not a favorite around here), that went gave more quotes from his speech. I think this part is especially critical:

In a remarkable floor speech, Scott explained why King’s letter was important, and why he voted against Warren, anyway.

“There is no doubt in my mind that the letter written by Coretta Scott King could, and perhaps should, be read by each and every member of this chamber,” Scott said. “Regardless of if you disagree with her conclusions, her standing in the history of our nation means her voice should be heard.”

Scott said what he objected to was Warren quoting the late Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-Mass), who in 1986 called Sessions a “disgrace” when Sessions was nominated for — and blocked from ― a federal judgeship.

“What I took issue with last night, and the true violation of Rule XIX in my eyes, were the remarks shared last night originally stated by Sen. Kennedy, not Coretta Scott King,” Scott said. McConnell specifically referenced King’s letter, and did not mention Kennedy’s words.

“Whether you like it or not, this body has rules, and we all should govern ourselves according to the rules,” Scott said.

If that was the attitude that McConnell had taken (that everyone must abide by the rules always, not just selectively when he dislikes someone), I might have felt differently about it. Although I disagree with many of his policies (After looking into his opinions about various issues), he seems like a stand up guy who fights for what he believes in.

My problem with republicans silencing Elizabeth Warren is they are hypocrites.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/feb/08/jeanne-shaheen/senate-republicans-didnt-use-rule-19-cruz-when-he-/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/02/08/the-history-of-the-senates-rule-19-suggests-it-is-very-loosely-enforced/

to me it was sexist to silence Warren, after they basically told a woman to shut up, sit down and you can't speak again..
 
Tekate|1486668548|4126651 said:
lovedogs|1486607168|4126344 said:
I, like Deb, was skeptical of what this video would look like, but was 100% wrong. He seems like an upstanding guy who took a lot of abuse (racist abuse, at that!) for his nomination of Sessions, which is wrong.

In looking into him more just now, I found a piece about him on HuffPo (I know, not a favorite around here), that went gave more quotes from his speech. I think this part is especially critical:

In a remarkable floor speech, Scott explained why King’s letter was important, and why he voted against Warren, anyway.

“There is no doubt in my mind that the letter written by Coretta Scott King could, and perhaps should, be read by each and every member of this chamber,” Scott said. “Regardless of if you disagree with her conclusions, her standing in the history of our nation means her voice should be heard.”

Scott said what he objected to was Warren quoting the late Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-Mass), who in 1986 called Sessions a “disgrace” when Sessions was nominated for — and blocked from ― a federal judgeship.

“What I took issue with last night, and the true violation of Rule XIX in my eyes, were the remarks shared last night originally stated by Sen. Kennedy, not Coretta Scott King,” Scott said. McConnell specifically referenced King’s letter, and did not mention Kennedy’s words.

“Whether you like it or not, this body has rules, and we all should govern ourselves according to the rules,” Scott said.

If that was the attitude that McConnell had taken (that everyone must abide by the rules always, not just selectively when he dislikes someone), I might have felt differently about it. Although I disagree with many of his policies (After looking into his opinions about various issues), he seems like a stand up guy who fights for what he believes in.

My problem with republicans silencing Elizabeth Warren is they are hypocrites.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/feb/08/jeanne-shaheen/senate-republicans-didnt-use-rule-19-cruz-when-he-/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/02/08/the-history-of-the-senates-rule-19-suggests-it-is-very-loosely-enforced/

to me it was sexist to silence Warren, after they basically told a woman to shut up, sit down and you can't speak again..


They told someone who happened to be a woman, who was being disruptive to sit down after warning her multiple times to do so.

And did you see my link from Aveda King who said that he has done some good things since Corretta King wrote that letter. She did not appreciate Warren using the race card.

And didn't he get an award in 2008 from the NAACP?
 
Tekate|1486668548|4126651 said:
lovedogs|1486607168|4126344 said:
I, like Deb, was skeptical of what this video would look like, but was 100% wrong. He seems like an upstanding guy who took a lot of abuse (racist abuse, at that!) for his nomination of Sessions, which is wrong.

In looking into him more just now, I found a piece about him on HuffPo (I know, not a favorite around here), that went gave more quotes from his speech. I think this part is especially critical:

In a remarkable floor speech, Scott explained why King’s letter was important, and why he voted against Warren, anyway.

“There is no doubt in my mind that the letter written by Coretta Scott King could, and perhaps should, be read by each and every member of this chamber,” Scott said. “Regardless of if you disagree with her conclusions, her standing in the history of our nation means her voice should be heard.”

Scott said what he objected to was Warren quoting the late Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-Mass), who in 1986 called Sessions a “disgrace” when Sessions was nominated for — and blocked from ― a federal judgeship.

“What I took issue with last night, and the true violation of Rule XIX in my eyes, were the remarks shared last night originally stated by Sen. Kennedy, not Coretta Scott King,” Scott said. McConnell specifically referenced King’s letter, and did not mention Kennedy’s words.

“Whether you like it or not, this body has rules, and we all should govern ourselves according to the rules,” Scott said.

If that was the attitude that McConnell had taken (that everyone must abide by the rules always, not just selectively when he dislikes someone), I might have felt differently about it. Although I disagree with many of his policies (After looking into his opinions about various issues), he seems like a stand up guy who fights for what he believes in.

My problem with republicans silencing Elizabeth Warren is they are hypocrites.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/feb/08/jeanne-shaheen/senate-republicans-didnt-use-rule-19-cruz-when-he-/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/02/08/the-history-of-the-senates-rule-19-suggests-it-is-very-loosely-enforced/

to me it was sexist to silence Warren, after they basically told a woman to shut up, sit down and you can't speak again..

I 100% agree with you, Kate, which is why I was so upset about it and how it was handled. I just respect the way that Scott talked about it much more--he actually pointed to something she quoted that made ANY sense as being "damaging/disrespectful", as opposed to idiot McConnell just being a sexist piece of trash. But yeah, as I said in another thread: it's BS that they don't invoke the rule regularly, and that they didn't invoke it for other things that were much worse (I think I posted the Cruz example in the other thread, or maybe it was a different one, I don't remember).
 
Tekate|1486668022|4126646 said:
I would hope you would feel just as hurt in your heart for these tweets above. There are many many more horrid, mean vindictive tweets and memes about Hillary Clinton, but you, she was a big girl and politics is not a nice place these last few years.

As far as this guy, good for him. I don't care what he tweets or reads.

#1 - I am not on Twitter, so I don't keep up with which twits tweet what in either direction, and I don't plan to. I heard Scott reading messages directed at him ... on the senate floor ... while I was making dinner.

#2 - Are you suggesting in your "good for him" statement that he somehow deserved this type of hateful sewage? :eh:
 
lovedogs|1486669159|4126655 said:
I think I posted the Cruz example in the other thread, or maybe it was a different one, I don't remember.

I thought about the Cruz case as well and think perhaps the reason McConnell & others didn't invoke the rule was they hoped he'd sink his own ship and they didn't want to toss him a life preserver by shutting him up. And Dems were just sitting back, eating popcorn & watching the circus.
 
JoCoJenn|1486669414|4126657 said:
Tekate|1486668022|4126646 said:
I would hope you would feel just as hurt in your heart for these tweets above. There are many many more horrid, mean vindictive tweets and memes about Hillary Clinton, but ETA as you ETA know,, she was a big girl and politics is not a nice place these last few years.

As far as this guy, good for him. I don't care what he tweets or reads.

#1 - I am not on Twitter, so I don't keep up with which twits tweet what in either direction, and I don't plan to. I heard Scott reading messages directed at him ... on the senate floor ... while I was making dinner.

#2 - Are you suggesting in your "good for him" statement that he somehow deserved this type of hateful sewage? :eh:

I am highly suggesting that people only get upset by those negatives/mean words that are thrown at people who have the same belief systems - This guy is a tea party/conservative/anti poverty/anti woman person. I don't find fault with what he speaks, I find fault with the fact that she was a woman and they have not silenced their own men. I feel equally disgusted by negative tweets against Clinton, Obama, Scott, Trump etc. I find mean/vindictive tweets juvenile and add nothing to our country and keeping it on a growth trajectory started by our President Obama.

I meant to to say (and I should check before posting to be sure) sorry about that I added with the ETAs: but as you know.. again sorry about that.

From Wiki what he believes in and stands for, much of which is anathema to me.

Taxes and spending – Scott believes that federal spending and taxes should be reduced,[3] with a Balanced Budget Amendment and the FairTax respectively being implemented for spending and taxes.

Health care – Scott believes the 2010 health care reform law should be repealed.[3][57][58] Scott states that the health care in the U.S. is one of the greatest in the world,[58] stating that people all over the world come to study in American medical schools, waiting lists are rare, and Americans are able to choose their insurance, providers, and course of treatment.[58] Scott supports an alternative to the health care bill that he says keeps these benefits while controlling costs by reforming the medical tort system by having a limit on non-economic damages[58] and by reforming Medicare.[58] In January 2014 Scott signed an amicus brief in support of Senator Ron Johnson's legal challenge against the U.S. Office of Personnel Management's Affordable Care Act ruling.[59][60][61]

Earmarks – Scott opposes earmarks, and yet he successfully advocated for federal funds for a Charleston harbor dredging project estimated at $300 million.[3]

Economic development – He supports infrastructure development and public works for his district.[3] He opposes restrictions on deepwater oil drilling.[3]

Social issues – Scott describes himself as pro-life. Scott supports adult and cord blood stem cell research.[62] He opposes embryonic stem cell research funded by taxpayers.[63] He opposes the creation of human embryos for experimentation.[64] and opposes assisted suicide.[62] Scott opposes same-sex marriage.[65]

Immigration – Scott supports federal legislation that is similar to the Arizona law, Arizona SB 1070.[66] He supports strengthening penalties for employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants.[66] He also promotes cultural assimilation by making English the official language in the government, and by requiring new immigrants to learn English.[66]

Labor – Scott introduced a bill which would deny food stamps to families whose incomes were lowered to the point of eligibility because a family member was participating in a labor strike.[67]

Foreign Policy – Scott advocates a continued military presence in Afghanistan and believes an early withdrawal will benefit Al-Qaeda. He also views Iran as the world's most dangerous country and believes that the US should aid pro-democracy groups there.[68] Scott opposed the 2011 military intervention in Libya.[69]

Police body cameras – After the Shooting of Walter Scott (no relation), Scott urged the Senate to hold hearings on police body cameras.[70]

These are not my views, I do not support most of his views, but as I said, his views are irrelevant to me, I find all the men and my own senator Susan Collins, unfair and hypocrites to silence Warren when they did not do it to their own male party members. Shame on them.

I have no idea why you think I was saying he deserved mean tweets or deserved. I said nothing remotely close to that.

I have a twitter account but rarely look at it, it's too confusing.

No one deserves disparging tweets, no one. On twitter you can be anonymous, maybe if people were required to use their real names we wouldn't see some of this horrible name calling.
 
Tekate|1486674149|4126693 said:
JoCoJenn|1486669414|4126657 said:
Tekate|1486668022|4126646 said:
I would hope you would feel just as hurt in your heart for these tweets above. There are many many more horrid, mean vindictive tweets and memes about Hillary Clinton, but ETA as you ETA know,, she was a big girl and politics is not a nice place these last few years.

As far as this guy, good for him. I don't care what he tweets or reads.

#1 - I am not on Twitter, so I don't keep up with which twits tweet what in either direction, and I don't plan to. I heard Scott reading messages directed at him ... on the senate floor ... while I was making dinner.

#2 - Are you suggesting in your "good for him" statement that he somehow deserved this type of hateful sewage? :eh:

I am highly suggesting that people only get upset by those negatives/mean words that are thrown at people who have the same belief systems - This guy is a tea party/conservative/anti poverty/anti woman person. I don't find fault with what he speaks, I find fault with the fact that she was a woman and they have not silenced their own men. I feel equally disgusted by negative tweets against Clinton, Obama, Scott, Trump etc. I find mean/vindictive tweets juvenile and add nothing to our country and keeping it on a growth trajectory started by our President Obama.

I meant to to say (and I should check before posting to be sure) sorry about that I added with the ETAs: but as you know.. again sorry about that.

From Wiki what he believes in and stands for, much of which is anathema to me.

Taxes and spending – Scott believes that federal spending and taxes should be reduced,[3] with a Balanced Budget Amendment and the FairTax respectively being implemented for spending and taxes.

Health care – Scott believes the 2010 health care reform law should be repealed.[3][57][58] Scott states that the health care in the U.S. is one of the greatest in the world,[58] stating that people all over the world come to study in American medical schools, waiting lists are rare, and Americans are able to choose their insurance, providers, and course of treatment.[58] Scott supports an alternative to the health care bill that he says keeps these benefits while controlling costs by reforming the medical tort system by having a limit on non-economic damages[58] and by reforming Medicare.[58] In January 2014 Scott signed an amicus brief in support of Senator Ron Johnson's legal challenge against the U.S. Office of Personnel Management's Affordable Care Act ruling.[59][60][61]

Earmarks – Scott opposes earmarks, and yet he successfully advocated for federal funds for a Charleston harbor dredging project estimated at $300 million.[3]

Economic development – He supports infrastructure development and public works for his district.[3] He opposes restrictions on deepwater oil drilling.[3]

Social issues – Scott describes himself as pro-life. Scott supports adult and cord blood stem cell research.[62] He opposes embryonic stem cell research funded by taxpayers.[63] He opposes the creation of human embryos for experimentation.[64] and opposes assisted suicide.[62] Scott opposes same-sex marriage.[65]

Immigration – Scott supports federal legislation that is similar to the Arizona law, Arizona SB 1070.[66] He supports strengthening penalties for employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants.[66] He also promotes cultural assimilation by making English the official language in the government, and by requiring new immigrants to learn English.[66]

Labor – Scott introduced a bill which would deny food stamps to families whose incomes were lowered to the point of eligibility because a family member was participating in a labor strike.[67]

Foreign Policy – Scott advocates a continued military presence in Afghanistan and believes an early withdrawal will benefit Al-Qaeda. He also views Iran as the world's most dangerous country and believes that the US should aid pro-democracy groups there.[68] Scott opposed the 2011 military intervention in Libya.[69]

Police body cameras – After the Shooting of Walter Scott (no relation), Scott urged the Senate to hold hearings on police body cameras.[70]

These are not my views, I do not support most of his views, but as I said, his views are irrelevant to me, I find all the men and my own senator Susan Collins, unfair and hypocrites to silence Warren when they did not do it to their own male party members. Shame on them.

I have no idea why you think I was saying he deserved mean tweets or deserved. I said nothing remotely close to that.

I have a twitter account but rarely look at it, it's too confusing.

No one deserves disparging tweets, no one. On twitter you can be anonymous, maybe if people were required to use their real names we wouldn't see some of this horrible name calling.

Like I said, I would be proud to have him as my Senator. Thank you for the list. :wavey:
 
JoCoJenn|1486669596|4126660 said:
lovedogs|1486669159|4126655 said:
I think I posted the Cruz example in the other thread, or maybe it was a different one, I don't remember.

I thought about the Cruz case as well and think perhaps the reason McConnell & others didn't invoke the rule was they hoped he'd sink his own ship and they didn't want to toss him a life preserver by shutting him up. And Dems were just sitting back, eating popcorn & watching the circus.



This incident took place when the republicans had a majority, Cruz was disparaging his own party. And perhaps the democrats thought the same Rarely do opposite party members stand up for the other one. Someone should have called him out on it.. sad.
 
redwood66|1486674568|4126698 said:
Tekate|1486674149|4126693 said:
JoCoJenn|1486669414|4126657 said:
Tekate|1486668022|4126646 said:
I would hope you would feel just as hurt in your heart for these tweets above. There are many many more horrid, mean vindictive tweets and memes about Hillary Clinton, but ETA as you ETA know,, she was a big girl and politics is not a nice place these last few years.

As far as this guy, good for him. I don't care what he tweets or reads.

#1 - I am not on Twitter, so I don't keep up with which twits tweet what in either direction, and I don't plan to. I heard Scott reading messages directed at him ... on the senate floor ... while I was making dinner.

#2 - Are you suggesting in your "good for him" statement that he somehow deserved this type of hateful sewage? :eh:

I am highly suggesting that people only get upset by those negatives/mean words that are thrown at people who have the same belief systems - This guy is a tea party/conservative/anti poverty/anti woman person. I don't find fault with what he speaks, I find fault with the fact that she was a woman and they have not silenced their own men. I feel equally disgusted by negative tweets against Clinton, Obama, Scott, Trump etc. I find mean/vindictive tweets juvenile and add nothing to our country and keeping it on a growth trajectory started by our President Obama.

I meant to to say (and I should check before posting to be sure) sorry about that I added with the ETAs: but as you know.. again sorry about that.

From Wiki what he believes in and stands for, much of which is anathema to me.

Taxes and spending – Scott believes that federal spending and taxes should be reduced,[3] with a Balanced Budget Amendment and the FairTax respectively being implemented for spending and taxes.

Health care – Scott believes the 2010 health care reform law should be repealed.[3][57][58] Scott states that the health care in the U.S. is one of the greatest in the world,[58] stating that people all over the world come to study in American medical schools, waiting lists are rare, and Americans are able to choose their insurance, providers, and course of treatment.[58] Scott supports an alternative to the health care bill that he says keeps these benefits while controlling costs by reforming the medical tort system by having a limit on non-economic damages[58] and by reforming Medicare.[58] In January 2014 Scott signed an amicus brief in support of Senator Ron Johnson's legal challenge against the U.S. Office of Personnel Management's Affordable Care Act ruling.[59][60][61]

Earmarks – Scott opposes earmarks, and yet he successfully advocated for federal funds for a Charleston harbor dredging project estimated at $300 million.[3]

Economic development – He supports infrastructure development and public works for his district.[3] He opposes restrictions on deepwater oil drilling.[3]

Social issues – Scott describes himself as pro-life. Scott supports adult and cord blood stem cell research.[62] He opposes embryonic stem cell research funded by taxpayers.[63] He opposes the creation of human embryos for experimentation.[64] and opposes assisted suicide.[62] Scott opposes same-sex marriage.[65]

Immigration – Scott supports federal legislation that is similar to the Arizona law, Arizona SB 1070.[66] He supports strengthening penalties for employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants.[66] He also promotes cultural assimilation by making English the official language in the government, and by requiring new immigrants to learn English.[66]

Labor – Scott introduced a bill which would deny food stamps to families whose incomes were lowered to the point of eligibility because a family member was participating in a labor strike.[67]

Foreign Policy – Scott advocates a continued military presence in Afghanistan and believes an early withdrawal will benefit Al-Qaeda. He also views Iran as the world's most dangerous country and believes that the US should aid pro-democracy groups there.[68] Scott opposed the 2011 military intervention in Libya.[69]

Police body cameras – After the Shooting of Walter Scott (no relation), Scott urged the Senate to hold hearings on police body cameras.[70]

These are not my views, I do not support most of his views, but as I said, his views are irrelevant to me, I find all the men and my own senator Susan Collins, unfair and hypocrites to silence Warren when they did not do it to their own male party members. Shame on them.

I have no idea why you think I was saying he deserved mean tweets or deserved. I said nothing remotely close to that.

I have a twitter account but rarely look at it, it's too confusing.

No one deserves disparging tweets, no one. On twitter you can be anonymous, maybe if people were required to use their real names we wouldn't see some of this horrible name calling.

Like I said, I would be proud to have him as my Senator. Thank you for the list.

As I totally say, I'm uber thrilled he's not mine. :)
 
Tekate|1486674664|4126701 said:
redwood66|1486674568|4126698 said:
Tekate|1486674149|4126693 said:
JoCoJenn|1486669414|4126657 said:
Tekate|1486668022|4126646 said:
I would hope you would feel just as hurt in your heart for these tweets above. There are many many more horrid, mean vindictive tweets and memes about Hillary Clinton, but ETA as you ETA know,, she was a big girl and politics is not a nice place these last few years.

As far as this guy, good for him. I don't care what he tweets or reads.



Like I said, I would be proud to have him as my Senator. Thank you for the list.

As I totally say, I'm uber thrilled he's not mine. :)

I am especially glad to see his opposition to the Libya debacle.
 
lovedogs|1486669159|4126655 said:
Tekate|1486668548|4126651 said:
lovedogs|1486607168|4126344 said:
I, like Deb, was skeptical of what this video would look like, but was 100% wrong. He seems like an upstanding guy who took a lot of abuse (racist abuse, at that!) for his nomination of Sessions, which is wrong.

In looking into him more just now, I found a piece about him on HuffPo (I know, not a favorite around here), that went gave more quotes from his speech. I think this part is especially critical:

In a remarkable floor speech, Scott explained why King’s letter was important, and why he voted against Warren, anyway.

“There is no doubt in my mind that the letter written by Coretta Scott King could, and perhaps should, be read by each and every member of this chamber,” Scott said. “Regardless of if you disagree with her conclusions, her standing in the history of our nation means her voice should be heard.”

Scott said what he objected to was Warren quoting the late Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-Mass), who in 1986 called Sessions a “disgrace” when Sessions was nominated for — and blocked from ― a federal judgeship.

“What I took issue with last night, and the true violation of Rule XIX in my eyes, were the remarks shared last night originally stated by Sen. Kennedy, not Coretta Scott King,” Scott said. McConnell specifically referenced King’s letter, and did not mention Kennedy’s words.

“Whether you like it or not, this body has rules, and we all should govern ourselves according to the rules,” Scott said.

If that was the attitude that McConnell had taken (that everyone must abide by the rules always, not just selectively when he dislikes someone), I might have felt differently about it. Although I disagree with many of his policies (After looking into his opinions about various issues), he seems like a stand up guy who fights for what he believes in.

My problem with republicans silencing Elizabeth Warren is they are hypocrites.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/feb/08/jeanne-shaheen/senate-republicans-didnt-use-rule-19-cruz-when-he-/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/02/08/the-history-of-the-senates-rule-19-suggests-it-is-very-loosely-enforced/

to me it was sexist to silence Warren, after they basically told a woman to shut up, sit down and you can't speak again..

I 100% agree with you, Kate, which is why I was so upset about it and how it was handled. I just respect the way that Scott talked about it much more--he actually pointed to something she quoted that made ANY sense as being "damaging/disrespectful", as opposed to idiot McConnell just being a sexist piece of trash. But yeah, as I said in another thread: it's BS that they don't invoke the rule regularly, and that they didn't invoke it for other things that were much worse (I think I posted the Cruz example in the other thread, or maybe it was a different one, I don't remember).

I totally agree with you, he ran on his platform, he won, he's living what he believes.. he has every right to speak what he believes in and what his constituents want from him. :)
 
redwood66|1486674782|4126703 said:
Tekate|1486674664|4126701 said:
redwood66|1486674568|4126698 said:
Tekate|1486674149|4126693 said:
JoCoJenn|1486669414|4126657 said:
Tekate|1486668022|4126646 said:
I would hope you would feel just as hurt in your heart for these tweets above. There are many many more horrid, mean vindictive tweets and memes about Hillary Clinton, but ETA as you ETA know,, she was a big girl and politics is not a nice place these last few years.

As far as this guy, good for him. I don't care what he tweets or reads.



Like I said, I would be proud to have him as my Senator. Thank you for the list.

As I totally say, I'm uber thrilled he's not mine. :)

I am especially glad to see his opposition to the Libya debacle.

I cannot abide his stand on union workers, and I was especially mindful of Dr. Anne Stevens family stand
on Libya.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/ambassador-chris-stevenss-sister-speaks-on-benghazi-i-do-not-blame-hillary-clinton/
 
Tekate|1486676084|4126715 said:
redwood66|1486674782|4126703 said:
Tekate|1486674664|4126701 said:
redwood66|1486674568|4126698 said:
Tekate|1486674149|4126693 said:
JoCoJenn|1486669414|4126657 said:
Tekate|1486668022|4126646 said:
I would hope you would feel just as hurt in your heart for these tweets above. There are many many more horrid, mean vindictive tweets and memes about Hillary Clinton, but ETA as you ETA know,, she was a big girl and politics is not a nice place these last few years.

As far as this guy, good for him. I don't care what he tweets or reads.



Like I said, I would be proud to have him as my Senator. Thank you for the list.

As I totally say, I'm uber thrilled he's not mine. :)

I am especially glad to see his opposition to the Libya debacle.

I cannot abide his stand on union workers, and I was especially mindful of Dr. Anne Stevens family stand
on Libya.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/ambassador-chris-stevenss-sister-speaks-on-benghazi-i-do-not-blame-hillary-clinton/

I was not talking about Benghazi. I am talking about assisting in the removal of Gaddafi.
 
ruby59|1486668850|4126653 said:
Tekate|1486668548|4126651 said:
lovedogs|1486607168|4126344 said:
I, like Deb, was skeptical of what this video would look like, but was 100% wrong. He seems like an upstanding guy who took a lot of abuse (racist abuse, at that!) for his nomination of Sessions, which is wrong.

In looking into him more just now, I found a piece about him on HuffPo (I know, not a favorite around here), that went gave more quotes from his speech. I think this part is especially critical:

In a remarkable floor speech, Scott explained why King’s letter was important, and why he voted against Warren, anyway.

“There is no doubt in my mind that the letter written by Coretta Scott King could, and perhaps should, be read by each and every member of this chamber,” Scott said. “Regardless of if you disagree with her conclusions, her standing in the history of our nation means her voice should be heard.”

Scott said what he objected to was Warren quoting the late Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-Mass), who in 1986 called Sessions a “disgrace” when Sessions was nominated for — and blocked from ― a federal judgeship.

“What I took issue with last night, and the true violation of Rule XIX in my eyes, were the remarks shared last night originally stated by Sen. Kennedy, not Coretta Scott King,” Scott said. McConnell specifically referenced King’s letter, and did not mention Kennedy’s words.

“Whether you like it or not, this body has rules, and we all should govern ourselves according to the rules,” Scott said.

If that was the attitude that McConnell had taken (that everyone must abide by the rules always, not just selectively when he dislikes someone), I might have felt differently about it. Although I disagree with many of his policies (After looking into his opinions about various issues), he seems like a stand up guy who fights for what he believes in.

My problem with republicans silencing Elizabeth Warren is they are hypocrites.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/feb/08/jeanne-shaheen/senate-republicans-didnt-use-rule-19-cruz-when-he-/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/02/08/the-history-of-the-senates-rule-19-suggests-it-is-very-loosely-enforced/

to me it was sexist to silence Warren, after they basically told a woman to shut up, sit down and you can't speak again..


They told someone who happened to be a woman, who was being disruptive to sit down after warning her multiple times to do so.

And did you see my link from Aveda King who said that he has done some good things since Corretta King wrote that letter. She did not appreciate Warren using the race card.

And didn't he get an award in 2008 from the NAACP?

How was she being disuptive? I watched her and she was not disruptive at all, she was reading.

As to Alveda King, she has every right to think and say what she wants, Whether she appreciated the race card or not is irrelevant to me. This is what Dr Martin Luther King's youngest daughter had to say about Elizabeth Warren:

http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/2017/02/09/bernice-king-calls-sen-elizabeth-warren-the-soul.html

Bernice King supported Elizabeth Warren.
 
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