POL: Make Bingo Great Again (POTUS Congressional Address)

[the_mother_thing]

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BINGO!!!!!

 

[OreoRosies86]

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This is our president.

 

[ruby59]

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This is our president.

Yes, it is!

 

[ruby59]

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The plan they want, not the one forced on them.

Yes.

 

[the_mother_thing]

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I liked that ... telling them BOTH to come together!

 

[ruby59]

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I loved the tribute to the slain serviceman and his devoted widow.

 

[Matata]

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I think it's tacky that he's using a recent widow and this speech to defray criticism for the Yemen raid. He's relying a bit heavily on pathos. But still, this is his best performance to date. At least so far, he doesn't sound like a raving idiot. A fawning moron, but not a raving idiot.

 

[the_mother_thing]

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I loved the tribute to the slain serviceman and his devoted widow.

Ditto; no dry eyes here for her.


I also liked: "My job is not to represent the world; my job is to represent the United States."

 

[ruby59]

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I loved the tribute to the slain serviceman and his devoted widow.

Ditto; no dry eyes here for her.


I also liked: "My job is not to represent the world; my job is to represent the United States."

I loved how he even got a smile out of her.

This is his best speech.

 

[the_mother_thing]

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I think it's tacky that he's using a recent widow and this speech to defray criticism for the Yemen raid. He's relying a bit heavily on pathos. But still, this is his best performance to date. At least so far, he doesn't sound like a raving idiot. A fawning moron, but not a raving idiot.

I don't think he "used" her at all; he paid a wonderful tribute to her husband. The ENTIRE hall paid tribute to her AND her husband for their sacrifice out of the utmost respect.

 

[the_mother_thing]

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Great speech!



Terrible show of disrespect by those who made a mad dash out the door like they just got a tweet about a BOGO event at the corner bar.

 

[ruby59]

Re: POL: Make Bingo Great Again (POTUS Congressional Address

I think it's tacky that he's using a recent widow and this speech to defray criticism for the Yemen raid. He's relying a bit heavily on pathos. But still, this is his best performance to date. At least so far, he doesn't sound like a raving idiot. A fawning moron, but not a raving idiot.

I don't think he "used" her at all; he paid a wonderful tribute to her husband. The ENTIRE hall paid tribute to her AND her husband for their sacrifice out of the utmost respect.

I am on MSNBC. And besides nitpicking, even they are not badmouthing his speech.

As far as using the woman, if she had not wanted the tribute, she would not have attended.

Someone's mike must b e on but he is getting Kudos from both sides of the aisle.

 

[lovedogs]

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From the parts of it I saw, it was by far his best speech (but that doesn't really deserve credit IMHO, since the rest have been comically horrible). But still, it was helpful to see him not look as foolish as he has in the past. Even though I don't agree with anything he says, his delivery was significantly more presidential than anything I've heard from him. So I give him credit for that.

 

[the_mother_thing]

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CNN also giving him Kudos.

 

[ruby59]

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Great speech!



Terrible show of disrespect by those who made a mad dash out the door like they just got a tweet about a BOGO event at the corner bar.

You mean the sea of white. They looked so constipated sitting there.

 

[the_mother_thing]

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Annnd I just hung up on my dad after he went off for almost 5 minutes about how "unnecessary Trump's extended standing ovation was for the Seal & his widow," as if that was 'Trump's doing'.

I suppose he might have felt differently had it been him receiving a folded flag in my brother's or my memory.

 

[Matata]

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The backstory to the rare disease patient trump exploited:
Midway through his address to Congress, President Trump paused to highlight the inspiring story of Megan Crowley, 20, whose life is a testament — in part — to American entrepreneurship.

When Megan was diagnosed with an extremely rare disease as a baby, her father, John Crowley, founded a small biotechnology start-up to try to cure Megan and her brother — an effort that ultimately grew into an 80-person company and helped create the drug that keeps Megan healthy today.

Megan’s affliction, Pompe disease, is exceedingly rare. The course of the disease varies by patient, but it causes children’s muscles to weaken and, eventually, their lungs may fail. Today, thanks to the work of her father — and the American biotechnology industry — Megan is a sophomore at University of Notre Dame.

Trump said that cutting regulations at the Food and Drug Administration, which regulates drugmakers, would be a path to more stories like Megan’s.

“If we slash the restraints, not just at the FDA but across our government, then we will be blessed with far more miracles like Megan,” Trump said. “In fact, our children will grow up in a nation of miracles.”

Crowley’s story is gripping enough that it led to a book and inspired a 2010 movie, Extraordinary Measures, starring Harrison Ford as the father. And in many way it seems to hit all the right notes for Trump’s vision of American business and medicine: John Crowley wasn’t an industry insider. When he founded his first biotech company, he was motivated by the desire to cure his kids, not pharmaceutical greed. He was a tough, driven American dad who created American jobs.

But pull back the curtain a little further, and it becomes clear that this success story is quintessentially American in a different way than Trump might care to admit. The actual drug, that saved Megan’s life is manufactured in Belgium and was developed by a biotech company founded by a Dutch immigrant — a company that is today owned by a French firm. The drug was invented through a scientific experiment that couldn’t have happened without international collaboration. And a president who has said he wants to bring down drug prices just held up as a shining example of innovation a drug that costs an average of $298,000 a year, per patient.

It’s also unclear whether the Crowley’s inspiring story and the development of the drug Myozyme (also called Lumizyme) is really an example of how “our slow and burdensome approval process at the Food and Drug Administration keeps too many advances, like the one that saved Megan’s life, from reaching those in need,” as Trump described.

Other companies have pointed to Myozyme as an example of the agency’s flexibility in getting drugs approved quickly, based on small amounts of data.

Briefing materials prepared by the drug company Sarepta Therapeutics to support the approval of their drug last year cited Myozyme as an “approval precedent” that they hoped to follow.

Last April, at a hearing in support of Sarepta’s drug, one of the researchers involved in Myozyme’s approval testified to the advisory committee that its passage through the regulatory process as a helpful parallel to consider.

Against the recommendation of its advisory committee, which wanted to see more evidence, regulators approved that drug.

 

[lovedogs]

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Annnd I just hung up on my dad after he went off for almost 5 minutes about how "unnecessary Trump's extended standing ovation was for the Seal & his widow," as if that was 'Trump's doing'.

I suppose he might have felt differently had it been him receiving a folded flag in my brother's or my memory.

I'm sorry Jen

I just wrote out a huge response that got deleted. But the cliffs notes version is that I disagree with grieving people being used to make a political point. But that has nothing to do w. Trump, and I certainly don't fault Trump for honoring Owens. Honoring him was the right thing to do. I just wish his widow didn't have to be on national TV while in the throws of grief. But again, nothing to do w. Trump--many politicians do it, and I think any president in his position would have done something similar. But I wonder if that's what your dad was trying to say? Not trying to argue at all--I totally understand that you were frustrated at what he said.

 

[Matata]

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And about that VOICE program. Only victims of crimes by immigrants count? When he builds that wall to keep out the "bad ones" how will he protect us from the good old homegrown criminals that he has walled in?

 

[OreoRosies86]

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And about that VOICE program. Only victims of crimes by immigrants count? When he builds that wall to keep out the "bad ones" how will he protect us from the good old homegrown criminals that he has walled in?

50 points for Gryffindor for this comment.

 

[redwood66]

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Just getting in here because I watched the Dem response. It was a great speech for him and the best I have heard him. He was on point and not divisive. We shall see how it is going forward.

I thought the dem response from the old white former governor sitting in a diner in Kentucky was quite obvious in its intent. Hey we like white rural people too! It was just odd. But at least they are trying so I will give them that if it is indeed genuine.


As far as the VOICE program this is the first I have heard of it. Will have to check it out. But so what? Those people were part of his campaign and are victims.

 

[the_mother_thing]

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I'm sorry Jen

I just wrote out a huge response that got deleted. But the cliffs notes version is that I disagree with grieving people being used to make a political point. But that has nothing to do w. Trump, and I certainly don't fault Trump for honoring Owens. Honoring him was the right thing to do. I just wish his widow didn't have to be on national TV while in the throws of grief. But again, nothing to do w. Trump--many politicians do it, and I think any president in his position would have done something similar. But I wonder if that's what your dad was trying to say? Not trying to argue at all--I totally understand that you were frustrated at what he said.

Thanks Lovedogs; but this is par for the course for my dad, and he should have known better as he knows this particular area is one I'm very sensitive to having watched several spouses receive those flags. But that's not what he was trying to say at all, he was clear about that in his rant. He's just being a jackhole, quite frankly, who will take any chance to pitch a fit about anything anyone on the right says or does. If a conservative scientist said the sky was blue, he would rant and argue endlessly that it's not.

And I agree, I would never want to see anyone's loss 'politicized' - EVER. But this widow chose to accept the invitation, and I admire her strength and respect her for doing so. She definitely did not have to attend, and I don't think anyone would fault her if she didn't, being so recent that she experienced her husband's loss.

 

[redwood66]

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And about that VOICE program. Only victims of crimes by immigrants count? When he builds that wall to keep out the "bad ones" how will he protect us from the good old homegrown criminals that he has walled in?

I believe that was addressed with the law and order and backing the police section of the speech.

 

[redwood66]

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Annnd I just hung up on my dad after he went off for almost 5 minutes about how "unnecessary Trump's extended standing ovation was for the Seal & his widow," as if that was 'Trump's doing'.

I suppose he might have felt differently had it been him receiving a folded flag in my brother's or my memory.

I'm sorry Jen

I just wrote out a huge response that got deleted. But the cliffs notes version is that I disagree with grieving people being used to make a political point. But that has nothing to do w. Trump, and I certainly don't fault Trump for honoring Owens. Honoring him was the right thing to do. I just wish his widow didn't have to be on national TV while in the throws of grief. But again, nothing to do w. Trump--many politicians do it, and I think any president in his position would have done something similar. But I wonder if that's what your dad was trying to say? Not trying to argue at all--I totally understand that you were frustrated at what he said.

All presidents and politicians use grieving people to further their agenda but it is also a tribute to their sacrifice. She knew and it was well deserved for her and I can tell she appreciated it. I choose to see it as a tribute and not as her being used.

 

[Matata]

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The dem response was lame, weak, pathetic and indicative that they are still struggling to redefine themselves.

I still want to know details about how he's going to eradicate the radical muslim terrorists from the planet.

 

[lovedogs]

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I'm sorry Jen

I just wrote out a huge response that got deleted. But the cliffs notes version is that I disagree with grieving people being used to make a political point. But that has nothing to do w. Trump, and I certainly don't fault Trump for honoring Owens. Honoring him was the right thing to do. I just wish his widow didn't have to be on national TV while in the throws of grief. But again, nothing to do w. Trump--many politicians do it, and I think any president in his position would have done something similar. But I wonder if that's what your dad was trying to say? Not trying to argue at all--I totally understand that you were frustrated at what he said.

Thanks Lovedogs; but this is par for the course for my dad, and he should have known better as he knows this particular area is one I'm very sensitive to having watched several spouses receive those flags. But that's not what he was trying to say at all, he was clear about that in his rant. He's just being a jackhole, quite frankly, who will take any chance to pitch a fit about anything anyone on the right says or does. If a conservative scientist said the sky was blue, he would rant and argue endlessly that it's not.

And I agree, I would never want to see anyone's loss 'politicized' - EVER. But this widow chose to accept the invitation, and I admire her strength and respect her for doing so. She definitely did not have to attend, and I don't think anyone would fault her if she didn't, being so recent that she experienced her husband's loss.

that's too bad. I'm sorry that you guys don't see eye to eye.

In terms of the underlined, I agree she certainly did choose to accept the invite. I just think it's really hard in that ind of situation. Of course she would want to go because POTUS was speaking and she was invited. And because her DH cared about America and fought for our country. But whether or not it's the best thing for her to be the center of attention during a huge national address is arguable, and something I don't think anyone should have to experience. But again, that's totally irrelevant in terms of Trump, as I don't think any other POTUS would have done things differently. Just something I hate to see because I think it puts this grieving person in a weird position that they shouldn't have to be in.

 

[ruby59]

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Annnd I just hung up on my dad after he went off for almost 5 minutes about how "unnecessary Trump's extended standing ovation was for the Seal & his widow," as if that was 'Trump's doing'.

I suppose he might have felt differently had it been him receiving a folded flag in my brother's or my memory.

I'm sorry Jen

I just wrote out a huge response that got deleted. But the cliffs notes version is that I disagree with grieving people being used to make a political point. But that has nothing to do w. Trump, and I certainly don't fault Trump for honoring Owens. Honoring him was the right thing to do. I just wish his widow didn't have to be on national TV while in the throws of grief. But again, nothing to do w. Trump--many politicians do it, and I think any president in his position would have done something similar. But I wonder if that's what your dad was trying to say? Not trying to argue at all--I totally understand that you were frustrated at what he said.

So Trump does not honor Holocaust Day and he is no good.

He does honor that poor handicapped woman and widow of the serviceman and he is still no good.

If they had not wanted the tribute, they would not have attended.

I for one found both women inspiring who deserved their moments of recognition.

 

[the_mother_thing]

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And about that VOICE program. Only victims of crimes by immigrants count? When he builds that wall to keep out the "bad ones" how will he protect us from the good old homegrown criminals that he has walled in?

This suspect wasn't trying to 'get out', but:

The triple shooting at a Kansas bar that killed a man who immigrated to the U.S. from India is being investigated as a hate crime, the FBI announced today.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/fbi-investigating-kansas-triple-shooting-killed-hate-crime/story?id=45808164

 

[ruby59]

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The dem response was lame, weak, pathetic and indicative that they are still struggling to redefine themselves.

I still want to know details about how he's going to eradicate the radical muslim terrorists from the planet.

I agree with the bolded.

And the Dems running out of there as if they were running to catch a bus showed how pathetic they are.

 

[the_mother_thing]

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that's too bad. I'm sorry that you guys don't see eye to eye.

In terms of the underlined, I agree she certainly did choose to accept the invite. I just think it's really hard in that ind of situation. Of course she would want to go because POTUS was speaking and she was invited. And because her DH cared about America and fought for our country. But whether or not it's the best thing for her to be the center of attention during a huge national address is arguable, and something I don't think anyone should have to experience. But again, that's totally irrelevant in terms of Trump, as I don't think any other POTUS would have done things differently. Just something I hate to see because I think it puts this grieving person in a weird position that they shouldn't have to be in.

I really do totally get what you're saying, and agree it probably appears to be an awkward position to be in. But at the same time, I can also see it being - in a sense - a part of healing for her, to share a national moment of celebration of her husband, and recognition of their sacrifice; to have people recognize and respect her husband and share in and feel her grief and loss even for a moment; for others to perhaps further grasp the enormity of what we ask our military to do. And as his wife & partner, it was another opportunity for her to also celebrate him and his devotion to his country.

At least, that is how I would feel if that had been my husband who died in that mission. I had thought about it many times because I had to (DD's dad was also active duty) ... not at a presidential address per se, but military spouses know the reality of what comes with their 'role'. Her decision to attend was selfless, and entirely about honoring her husband.

That's why I have so much respect for her ... and why I so want to throat-punch my dad.