Oh No Tiger! How could you...

[kenny]

I think the reason he didn't want to face the police (or attend his California tournament tomorrow in California) is there are fingernail scratches on his face.

He has to wait for them to heal before he shows his face to protect his wife from being arrested.

But imagine if the genders were reversed and the wife was hiding to protect her wife-beating husband.
The police would get a warrant soooooooo quickly.

 

[iheartscience]

Date: 12/2/2009 10:31:01 PM
Author: KimberlyH

Date: 12/2/2009 9:56:45 PM

Author: thing2of2

Date: 12/2/2009 9:46:38 PM

Author: KimberlyH

Date: 12/2/2009 8:04:05 PM

Author: Haven

Date: 12/2/2009 1:50:53 PM

Author: HollyS

Celebs are people. Mostly privileged and pampered, occasionally hard-working, often talented, and certainly completely and totally human with all the foibles that come with that. They make lousy personal choices too. It just gets splashed in the headlines while yours and mine are private mistakes.

Charles Barkley was correct more than a decade ago when he said he was NOT a role model; role models are parents, teachers, etc. It wasn''t his job to be a role model for your child, it was his job to play his best for his team and its owners.

Tiger isn''t a role model for your child. A golfer with game, yes. Someone to admire outside of the game, no. Why would you admire him for being a man simply because he plays great golf? You and I really know nothing about him on a personal level that should make us feel betrayed by him, sorry for him, or intrigued by his troubles.

I totally agree.

When are people going to figure out who the real role models are?

I sit in the same camp.

Yes, people can choose to admire and look up to whomever they choose, and I can wish that people were more discerning.

I feel bad for their whole family that this has turned into media fodder, but especially his children who will one day be able to google their dad''s name and hear and view the alleged taped messages. He has lived a relatively private life, for a celebrity, and I wish the media would respect that and leave him alone so he and his wife can sort through this mess, whatever the truth may be.

It wouldn''t have been turned into media fodder if Tiger could have kept himself from having an affair with an apparent famewhore. I don''t feel sorry for him at all. His wife and kids, yes, but him-no. In this day and age it''s ridiculous to think that as a celebrity, you''ll ever get away with something like that. (Not to mention that it''s disgusting to cheat on your wife and two kids.) It''s his fault his kids will google him when they''re old enough-I hope they''re as disgusted with him as I am!

It appears he cheated and yes that is disgusting, but I believe it should be private matter. Just because it has become normal that celebrities lives make the 6 o''clock news doesn''t make it right.

Yes, but he had to know that if it came out it would be all over the tabloids and news channels. I''m not saying that I agree with how the media covers celebrities, but that''s how the media coverage is these days, and I''m sure he was well aware of that before all this happened.

I guess Tiger thought he''d never get caught because he''s so much smarter than all the other dumb celebs who''ve gotten caught and had their personal lives splashed all over the news? Hubris and all that!

 

[Dancing Fire]

Date: 12/2/2009 7:41:09 PM
Author: vespergirl
The whole thing has been pretty disappointing for my husband - he''s been a Tiger fan forever, so he thought it was really not that classy for him to be running around with a bunch of tramps when he has a beautiful wife & two babies waiting for him at home. I''m a little more jaded, though, so I guess I always expect that when men have that kind of money, power, and fame, affairs are par for the course.

We had kind of a laugh today, though, because we remembered something that happened a couple of years ago when we went to see Tiger play at a tournament. We werew standing right next to him at a hole, and I was wearing a sundress and showing some cleavage, and my DH noticed that Tiger was staring at my boobs (I''m naturally busty). I turned to look, and low and behold, he was definitely staring. He kept sneaking peaks at them until they moved on to the next hole. My DH and our friends were all cracking up about it later, and I teased DH that I could have had Tiger if we both weren''t married. I guess Tiger doesn''t care so much about the marriage part

pictures please!!

btw; did he double bogey that hole?

 

[miraclesrule]

Seriously DF...did you have to buzzkill the entire thread?

 

[Cind11]

I have never thought of Tiger Woods as a role model. I do think the whole thing is just sad. He always seemed like such a class act.

 

[miraclesrule]

Date: 12/3/2009 1:05:13 AM
Author: Cind11
I have never thought of Tiger Woods as a role model. I do think the whole thing is just sad. He always seemed like such a class act.

I used to think so too!! Now, at least, my ex-boyfriend has a legitimate reason to dislike the guy. Prior to this, his dislike was purely racism. We actually broke up on the way home from the Buick Invitational because we got into a fight about Tiger and Jerry Falwell (the Tinky Winky/Telly Tubby scandal) Now my ex gets to berate Tiger's character...and for good reason.

 

[Samantha Red]

I am supporting his poor wife here. I have been exactly in her shoes and found out my husband was cheating with his secretary. When we met up in a car park in his car about an hour after I confirmed my suspicions I was a little tetchy you might say. He had some new eye glasses on chosen by the mistress so I pulled them off his head and mangled them up. Bear in mind for 4 months he had literally been torturing me - I never knew where he was, he was looking for property to move into behind my back . He was a total coward and made me suffer for a long time until I made the decision and kicked him out. We don''t know what has gone on behind closed doors and she may have been going through the same torture and pain. If he has been sleeping with other women behind her back whilst she stays at home and looks after their children she should mash his balls with a big bertha. The only saving grace on his part could be if it is to do with some sort of depression over the loss of his father.

I guess we all come to this with our own frame of reference.

 

[sba771]

Date: 12/3/2009 3:07:35 AM
Author: Samantha Red
I am supporting his poor wife here. I have been exactly in her shoes and found out my husband was cheating with his secretary. When we met up in a car park in his car about an hour after I confirmed my suspicions I was a little tetchy you might say. He had some new eye glasses on chosen by the mistress so I pulled them off his head and mangled them up. Bear in mind for 4 months he had literally been torturing me - I never knew where he was, he was looking for property to move into behind my back . He was a total coward and made me suffer for a long time until I made the decision and kicked him out. We don''t know what has gone on behind closed doors and she may have been going through the same torture and pain. If he has been sleeping with other women behind her back whilst she stays at home and looks after their children she should mash his balls with a big bertha. The only saving grace on his part could be if it is to do with some sort of depression over the loss of his father.


I guess we all come to this with our own frame of reference.

I kind of agree with this. Also when you cheat you are risking exposing your spouse to various STDS and even AIDS. That would be enough to put me in a major rage when I was loyal to my spouse and he (or she) was so selfish and reckless and decided to play with my physical health on top of everything else.

 

[klewis]

Date: 12/2/2009 7:41:09 PM
Author: vespergirl
The whole thing has been pretty disappointing for my husband - he''s been a Tiger fan forever, so he thought it was really not that classy for him to be running around with a bunch of tramps when he has a beautiful wife & two babies waiting for him at home. I''m a little more jaded, though, so I guess I always expect that when men have that kind of money, power, and fame, affairs are par for the course.


We had kind of a laugh today, though, because we remembered something that happened a couple of years ago when we went to see Tiger play at a tournament. We werew standing right next to him at a hole, and I was wearing a sundress and showing some cleavage, and my DH noticed that Tiger was staring at my boobs (I''m naturally busty). I turned to look, and low and behold, he was definitely staring. He kept sneaking peaks at them until they moved on to the next hole. My DH and our friends were all cracking up about it later, and I teased DH that I could have had Tiger if we both weren''t married. I guess Tiger doesn''t care so much about the marriage part

That''s a funny story. I bet Tiger wasn''t the only one sneaking peeks because if a naturally busty cleavage is being shown, it''s going to be "appreciated" particularly by a connoisseur and I always presume that if something is being displayed it''s ok to look, often. I think you''re ok with it too since you and your friends all found the incident quite funny


Anyway, I thought your post was funny, and I mean funny in the way you intended it to be, but I couldn''t help feel irked.
I think it''s perfectly natural for a man to want to spread his "genetic traits" as far and as wide as possible. When a vow of monogamy is taken, well that should be the end of it, No more roving Rover! But I think that actually goes against the nature of a man. But women are very aware of how weak men are when it comes to this kind of temptation - a weakness which is in my opinion quite natural. We all know the comments like how a man''s barins are in his pants, and other remarks like it. They have a truth to them. So why is anyone surprised when we actually take the bait?

 

[Samantha Red]

Date: 12/3/2009 3:59:44 AM
Author: klewis

Date: 12/2/2009 7:41:09 PM
Author: vespergirl
The whole thing has been pretty disappointing for my husband - he''s been a Tiger fan forever, so he thought it was really not that classy for him to be running around with a bunch of tramps when he has a beautiful wife & two babies waiting for him at home. I''m a little more jaded, though, so I guess I always expect that when men have that kind of money, power, and fame, affairs are par for the course.


We had kind of a laugh today, though, because we remembered something that happened a couple of years ago when we went to see Tiger play at a tournament. We werew standing right next to him at a hole, and I was wearing a sundress and showing some cleavage, and my DH noticed that Tiger was staring at my boobs (I''m naturally busty). I turned to look, and low and behold, he was definitely staring. He kept sneaking peaks at them until they moved on to the next hole. My DH and our friends were all cracking up about it later, and I teased DH that I could have had Tiger if we both weren''t married. I guess Tiger doesn''t care so much about the marriage part

That''s a funny story. I bet Tiger wasn''t the only one sneaking peeks because if a naturally busty cleavage is being shown, it''s going to be ''appreciated'' particularly by a connoisseur and I always presume that if something is being displayed it''s ok to look, often. I think you''re ok with it too since you and your friends all found the incident quite funny


Anyway, I thought your post was funny, and I mean funny in the way you intended it to be, but I couldn''t help feel irked.
I think it''s perfectly natural for a man to want to spread his ''genetic traits'' as far and as wide as possible. When a vow of monogamy is taken, well that should be the end of it, No more roving Rover! But I think that actually goes against the nature of a man. But women are very aware of how weak men are when it comes to this kind of temptation - a weakness which is in my opinion quite natural. We all know the comments like how a man''s barins are in his pants, and other remarks like it. They have a truth to them. So why is anyone surprised when we actually take the bait?

I guess we shouldn''t be surprised when men take the bait, just disappointed and sad. Why go to the bother of getting married and declaring vows of loyalty and faith and then ignore them? If you want to carry on playing the field just do that. Or is it a case of wanting cake and eating it?

 

[Samantha Red]

Date: 12/3/2009 3:26:26 AM
Author: sba771

Date: 12/3/2009 3:07:35 AM
Author: Samantha Red
I am supporting his poor wife here. I have been exactly in her shoes and found out my husband was cheating with his secretary. When we met up in a car park in his car about an hour after I confirmed my suspicions I was a little tetchy you might say. He had some new eye glasses on chosen by the mistress so I pulled them off his head and mangled them up. Bear in mind for 4 months he had literally been torturing me - I never knew where he was, he was looking for property to move into behind my back . He was a total coward and made me suffer for a long time until I made the decision and kicked him out. We don''t know what has gone on behind closed doors and she may have been going through the same torture and pain. If he has been sleeping with other women behind her back whilst she stays at home and looks after their children she should mash his balls with a big bertha. The only saving grace on his part could be if it is to do with some sort of depression over the loss of his father.


I guess we all come to this with our own frame of reference.

I kind of agree with this. Also when you cheat you are risking exposing your spouse to various STDS and even AIDS. That would be enough to put me in a major rage when I was loyal to my spouse and he (or she) was so selfish and reckless and decided to play with my physical health on top of everything else.

Exactly right. After I found out what had been going on I spent a very unpleasant afternoon at a GU clinic confirming that he hadn''t left me with any special ''parting gifts''

 

[AGBF]

Since we are all only speculating here, I will share my speculations. I never thought for a second that Elin (is that how you spell her name?) hit Tiger with a golf club! Apparently neighbors heard him screaming at her that she had "ruined Thanksgiving". He was found with scratches on his face, but no airbags had been deployed. I therefore inferred that he got the scratches before he left the house (probably fled the house). Since his wife was allegedly found with a gold club near the SUV, which had at least one broken window, I had surmised that she followed Tiger out of the house and hit the car as he was trying to leave...causing him to hit the hydrant and tree. I don't know where anyone got the information on broken teeth and his being hit with a golf club back in the house...but if he was, how do we know he wasn't hit in self-defense? No one else was there and the man was yelling at his wife for "ruining Thanksgiving". Why do I doubt that his wife would suddenly just pick up a golf club and knock out his teeth for the heck of it?

I'm with the wife! (But if facts lead to another place, I'll follow the facts.)

AGBF

 

[zoebartlett]

Date: 12/2/2009 8:04:05 PM
Author: Haven

Date: 12/2/2009 1:50:53 PM

Author: HollyS

Celebs are people. Mostly privileged and pampered, occasionally hard-working, often talented, and certainly completely and totally human with all the foibles that come with that. They make lousy personal choices too. It just gets splashed in the headlines while yours and mine are private mistakes.


Charles Barkley was correct more than a decade ago when he said he was NOT a role model; role models are parents, teachers, etc. It wasn''t his job to be a role model for your child, it was his job to play his best for his team and its owners.


Tiger isn''t a role model for your child. A golfer with game, yes. Someone to admire outside of the game, no. Why would you admire him for being a man simply because he plays great golf? You and I really know nothing about him on a personal level that should make us feel betrayed by him, sorry for him, or intrigued by his troubles.

I totally agree.


When are people going to figure out who the real role models are?

I agree also. I was watching "The View" yesterday, and Whoopi Goldberg was saying something similar.

Some were saying that once you''re in the public eye, you give up some amount of privacy. I don''t agree. Just because you''re famous, doesn''t mean that people have the right to know everything about that person. Tiger Woods is a guy who is going through a difficult time, and he deserves the right to go through it privately.

We can''t read too much into the situation because not much info. was put out there. As far as I''m concerned, it''s all just speculation until more facts are given (by him and his wife, if they choose to go public).

 

[janinegirly]

I agree about sportsmen/musicians/celebs not making great role models! Still you can't control who a child emulates unfortunately; the media permeates all aspects of our society.

Nevertheless I don't think people want Tiger to be more open because he's a role model and owes us anything--it's more because in the role of pampered celebrity (I'm talking about the endorsments and protective shield he has to promote his "image", which results in lucrative endorsments) you are no longer in control of all the information that is out there about you. You can say..too bad I don 't care, but don't expect to have such a elevated image anymore.

I read an interesting article that said that Tiger's carefully crafted image has never been in line with the real man. Not that he's some shady charter but apparently he's been hitting on women (vesper!) and dropping f-bombs/throwing clubs on the golf course and taking endorsments from unethical corporations for a long time now. Which to me simply says he's human and a shrewd businessman--but it's not the image put out there. And that image was protected by the media (mostly b/c it was too boring to try to uncover), but then Tiger went and made a BUNCH of stupid mistakes (calls mistress on his own phone/leaves messages saying this is "Tiger" (duh!)/ends up face down in street with crashed car) which really are his own doing since no one was paying much attention before that!

As for logic of the wife coming out with the golf club..sorry, it does sound a lot more reasonable to me than he gets in minor crash for no good reason then she decides to break out back window, pull him out, save him all the while no call to 911. Makes much more logical sense to me that they fought, she got a bit crazed and scratched his face, he makes a run for it with no shoes on with her on his heels with club, in the mele he crashes stupidly, then stumbles out of the car onto the driveway. And come on, all this stuff comes out while Tiger is apologizing for transgressions--I think-we can make some assumptions based on his lack of denial here. Maybe I'm jumping the gun here but I'm comfortable in my assumption that his wife is a bit crazed and he's a clumsy playa.

 

[JSM]

Date: 12/3/2009 9:38:18 AM
Author: janinegirly

Nevertheless I don''t think people want Tiger to be more open because he''s a role model and owes us anything--it''s more because in the role of pampered celebrity (I''m talking about the endorsments and protective shield he has to promote his ''image'', which results in lucrative endorsments) you are no longer in control of all the information that is out there about you. You can say..too bad I don ''t care, but don''t expect to have such a elevated image anymore.


I read an interesting article that said that Tiger''s carefully crafted image has never been in line with the real man. Not that he''s some shady charter but apparently he''s been hitting on women (vesper!) and dropping f-bombs/throwing clubs on the golf course and taking endorsments from unethical corporations for a long time now. Which to me simply says he''s human and a shrewd businessman--but it''s not the image put out there. And that image was protected by the media (mostly b/c it was too boring to try to uncover), but then Tiger went and made a BUNCH of stupid mistakes (calls mistress on his own phone/leaves messages saying this is ''Tiger'' (duh!)/ends up face down in street with crashed car) which really are his own doing since no one was paying much attention before that!

The more I hear about this the more I have to agree.

I don''t think asking Tiger to remain faithful to his spouse is somehow holding him to a higher standard than everyone else. Frankly, I hope everyone would be faithful to their spouse. Is it easy? That''s debatable, depending on who you ask, but it can be done by anyone.

The radio show I was listening to this morning made a good point. Tiger has never projected himself as a ''family man''. His image (and image is EVERYTHING nowadays) has always been one of ''elite'', and the rest was out of the spotlight. There is nothing wrong with that. The media/society were the ones to assume the rest.

That said, I am a little disillusioned. Surprised, no. But disappointed. Tiger was never a ''role model'' of mine but I did admire his perseverance and talent. Right or wrong, I''ll never think of him the same way.

 

[Lanie]

Thought this was an interesting quote from today. It''s from Jesper Parnevik, the pro golfer who introduced Elin (his then-nanny) to Tiger.

"I feel really sorry for Elin," he told The Golf Channel on Wednesday. "I would be especially sad about it since I''m kind of ... I really feel sorry for Elin, since me and my wife were at fault for hooking her up with him. We probably thought he was a better guy than he is. I would probably need to apologize to her and hope she uses a driver next time instead of the 3-iron."
I wonder if he is talking about her hitting the car, or Tiger? I''m sure you guys have heard the jokes and seen the doctored pictures of her standing next to Tiger who is beat up in the face. I didn''t think she had done anything myself. But after seeing this quote, apparently she did!

 

[movie zombie]

i don''t think this is about supporting the poor wife or even tiger: its about accepting that he is a "business" and is a shrewd business man at that. he as crafted a persona, sold that persona, and found willing buyers. that we expect him or any other celebrity to live up to a standard that most people seem incapable of doing is naive. its nice to say we should all be faithful.....but the reality is that a high percentage of men and women stray, men and women who are not celebrities and walk the streets with us everyday. i''m not saying its right, i''m not saying its something i''d do, but reality is reality. perhaps that''s the problem: reality tv let''s americans think they have a right to know every detail of others lives.

mz

 

[vespergirl]

Date: 12/3/2009 4:35:12 AM
Author: Samantha Red

Date: 12/3/2009 3:59:44 AM
Author: klewis

Date: 12/2/2009 7:41:09 PM
Author: vespergirl
The whole thing has been pretty disappointing for my husband - he''s been a Tiger fan forever, so he thought it was really not that classy for him to be running around with a bunch of tramps when he has a beautiful wife & two babies waiting for him at home. I''m a little more jaded, though, so I guess I always expect that when men have that kind of money, power, and fame, affairs are par for the course.


We had kind of a laugh today, though, because we remembered something that happened a couple of years ago when we went to see Tiger play at a tournament. We werew standing right next to him at a hole, and I was wearing a sundress and showing some cleavage, and my DH noticed that Tiger was staring at my boobs (I''m naturally busty). I turned to look, and low and behold, he was definitely staring. He kept sneaking peaks at them until they moved on to the next hole. My DH and our friends were all cracking up about it later, and I teased DH that I could have had Tiger if we both weren''t married. I guess Tiger doesn''t care so much about the marriage part

That''s a funny story. I bet Tiger wasn''t the only one sneaking peeks because if a naturally busty cleavage is being shown, it''s going to be ''appreciated'' particularly by a connoisseur and I always presume that if something is being displayed it''s ok to look, often. I think you''re ok with it too since you and your friends all found the incident quite funny


Anyway, I thought your post was funny, and I mean funny in the way you intended it to be, but I couldn''t help feel irked.
I think it''s perfectly natural for a man to want to spread his ''genetic traits'' as far and as wide as possible. When a vow of monogamy is taken, well that should be the end of it, No more roving Rover! But I think that actually goes against the nature of a man. But women are very aware of how weak men are when it comes to this kind of temptation - a weakness which is in my opinion quite natural. We all know the comments like how a man''s barins are in his pants, and other remarks like it. They have a truth to them. So why is anyone surprised when we actually take the bait?

I guess we shouldn''t be surprised when men take the bait, just disappointed and sad. Why go to the bother of getting married and declaring vows of loyalty and faith and then ignore them? If you want to carry on playing the field just do that. Or is it a case of wanting cake and eating it?

DH & I were talking about this in depth last night. He is a bit crushed because Tiger has always been a hero of his, and DH is a man of honor, who takes his marriage vows seriously. I was saying, well, if you''re on the road all the time with women throwing themselves at you, maybe it''s easier to "slip."

DH wouldn''t accept that excuse - he said that fidelity and loyalty are decisions that you should make before you commit to the marriage, so it shouldn''t be a "struggle" when the opportunity to cheat arises. He said that for him, being with anyone else was eliminated from his realm of possibility as soon as we got married, so it''s not a thought that he would even entertain - he doesn''t even consider it an option. I guess that some people just have more flexible views of their marriage vows in their minds, and are able to justify and rationalize cheating to themselves.

 

[janinegirly]

Date: 12/3/2009 12:17:55 PM
Author: Lanie



Thought this was an interesting quote from today. It's from Jesper Parnevik, the pro golfer who introduced Elin (his then-nanny) to Tiger.

'I feel really sorry for Elin,' he told The Golf Channel on Wednesday. 'I would be especially sad about it since I'm kind of ... I really feel sorry for Elin, since me and my wife were at fault for hooking her up with him. We probably thought he was a better guy than he is. I would probably need to apologize to her and hope she uses a driver next time instead of the 3-iron.'



I wonder if he is talking about her hitting the car, or Tiger? I'm sure you guys have heard the jokes and seen the doctored pictures of her standing next to Tiger who is beat up in the face. I didn't think she had done anything myself. But after seeing this quote, apparently she did!

Wow, hadn't read that. Yikes. Seeing how he (Jesper) knows her as well as anyone I wonder if anyone still believes she was trying to save him with the club.

 

[janinegirly]

Date: 12/3/2009 1:25:21 PM
Author: vespergirl

Date: 12/3/2009 4:35:12 AM
Author: Samantha Red

Date: 12/3/2009 3:59:44 AM
Author: klewis

Date: 12/2/2009 7:41:09 PM
Author: vespergirl
The whole thing has been pretty disappointing for my husband - he''s been a Tiger fan forever, so he thought it was really not that classy for him to be running around with a bunch of tramps when he has a beautiful wife & two babies waiting for him at home. I''m a little more jaded, though, so I guess I always expect that when men have that kind of money, power, and fame, affairs are par for the course.


We had kind of a laugh today, though, because we remembered something that happened a couple of years ago when we went to see Tiger play at a tournament. We werew standing right next to him at a hole, and I was wearing a sundress and showing some cleavage, and my DH noticed that Tiger was staring at my boobs (I''m naturally busty). I turned to look, and low and behold, he was definitely staring. He kept sneaking peaks at them until they moved on to the next hole. My DH and our friends were all cracking up about it later, and I teased DH that I could have had Tiger if we both weren''t married. I guess Tiger doesn''t care so much about the marriage part

That''s a funny story. I bet Tiger wasn''t the only one sneaking peeks because if a naturally busty cleavage is being shown, it''s going to be ''appreciated'' particularly by a connoisseur and I always presume that if something is being displayed it''s ok to look, often. I think you''re ok with it too since you and your friends all found the incident quite funny


Anyway, I thought your post was funny, and I mean funny in the way you intended it to be, but I couldn''t help feel irked.
I think it''s perfectly natural for a man to want to spread his ''genetic traits'' as far and as wide as possible. When a vow of monogamy is taken, well that should be the end of it, No more roving Rover! But I think that actually goes against the nature of a man. But women are very aware of how weak men are when it comes to this kind of temptation - a weakness which is in my opinion quite natural. We all know the comments like how a man''s barins are in his pants, and other remarks like it. They have a truth to them. So why is anyone surprised when we actually take the bait?

I guess we shouldn''t be surprised when men take the bait, just disappointed and sad. Why go to the bother of getting married and declaring vows of loyalty and faith and then ignore them? If you want to carry on playing the field just do that. Or is it a case of wanting cake and eating it?

DH & I were talking about this in depth last night. He is a bit crushed because Tiger has always been a hero of his, and DH is a man of honor, who takes his marriage vows seriously. I was saying, well, if you''re on the road all the time with women throwing themselves at you, maybe it''s easier to ''slip.''

DH wouldn''t accept that excuse - he said that fidelity and loyalty are decisions that you should make before you commit to the marriage, so it shouldn''t be a ''struggle'' when the opportunity to cheat arises. He said that for him, being with anyone else was eliminated from his realm of possibility as soon as we got married, so it''s not a thought that he would even entertain - he doesn''t even consider it an option. I guess that some people just have more flexible views of their marriage vows in their minds, and are able to justify and rationalize cheating to themselves.

Wow, your DH sounds quite evolved! Sadly I do feel that when temptation is routinely put in front of a man with 1) access and 2) big ego and 3) belief that will not be caught, it is almost always taken. Thankfully and hopefully most of our DH''s do not have any of these 3 !

 

[meresal]

Date: 12/3/2009 12:17:55 PM
Author: Lanie

Thought this was an interesting quote from today. It''s from Jesper Parnevik, the pro golfer who introduced Elin (his then-nanny) to Tiger.

''I feel really sorry for Elin,'' he told The Golf Channel on Wednesday. ''I would be especially sad about it since I''m kind of ... I really feel sorry for Elin, since me and my wife were at fault for hooking her up with him. We probably thought he was a better guy than he is. I would probably need to apologize to her and hope she uses a driver next time instead of the 3-iron.''

I wonder if he is talking about her hitting the car, or Tiger? I''m sure you guys have heard the jokes and seen the doctored pictures of her standing next to Tiger who is beat up in the face. I didn''t think she had done anything myself. But after seeing this quote, apparently she did!

Drivers are hollow... a 3-iron would definitely give you the most impact, for the swing. I think her choice was spot on.

 

[trillionaire]

Date: 12/3/2009 1:25:21 PM
Author: vespergirl

Date: 12/3/2009 4:35:12 AM
Author: Samantha Red

Date: 12/3/2009 3:59:44 AM
Author: klewis

Date: 12/2/2009 7:41:09 PM
Author: vespergirl
The whole thing has been pretty disappointing for my husband - he's been a Tiger fan forever, so he thought it was really not that classy for him to be running around with a bunch of tramps when he has a beautiful wife & two babies waiting for him at home. I'm a little more jaded, though, so I guess I always expect that when men have that kind of money, power, and fame, affairs are par for the course.


We had kind of a laugh today, though, because we remembered something that happened a couple of years ago when we went to see Tiger play at a tournament. We werew standing right next to him at a hole, and I was wearing a sundress and showing some cleavage, and my DH noticed that Tiger was staring at my boobs (I'm naturally busty). I turned to look, and low and behold, he was definitely staring. He kept sneaking peaks at them until they moved on to the next hole. My DH and our friends were all cracking up about it later, and I teased DH that I could have had Tiger if we both weren't married. I guess Tiger doesn't care so much about the marriage part

That's a funny story. I bet Tiger wasn't the only one sneaking peeks because if a naturally busty cleavage is being shown, it's going to be 'appreciated' particularly by a connoisseur and I always presume that if something is being displayed it's ok to look, often. I think you're ok with it too since you and your friends all found the incident quite funny


Anyway, I thought your post was funny, and I mean funny in the way you intended it to be, but I couldn't help feel irked.
I think it's perfectly natural for a man to want to spread his 'genetic traits' as far and as wide as possible. When a vow of monogamy is taken, well that should be the end of it, No more roving Rover! But I think that actually goes against the nature of a man. But women are very aware of how weak men are when it comes to this kind of temptation - a weakness which is in my opinion quite natural. We all know the comments like how a man's barins are in his pants, and other remarks like it. They have a truth to them. So why is anyone surprised when we actually take the bait?

I guess we shouldn't be surprised when men take the bait, just disappointed and sad. Why go to the bother of getting married and declaring vows of loyalty and faith and then ignore them? If you want to carry on playing the field just do that. Or is it a case of wanting cake and eating it?

DH & I were talking about this in depth last night. He is a bit crushed because Tiger has always been a hero of his, and DH is a man of honor, who takes his marriage vows seriously. I was saying, well, if you're on the road all the time with women throwing themselves at you, maybe it's easier to 'slip.'

DH wouldn't accept that excuse - he said that fidelity and loyalty are decisions that you should make before you commit to the marriage, so it shouldn't be a 'struggle' when the opportunity to cheat arises. He said that for him, being with anyone else was eliminated from his realm of possibility as soon as we got married, so it's not a thought that he would even entertain - he doesn't even consider it an option. I guess that some people just have more flexible views of their marriage vows in their minds, and are able to justify and rationalize cheating to themselves.

I don't think that most men get married thinking that they will cheat, but monotony sets in, and novelty begins to look more attractive. I'm in your husband's camp... fidelity is a decision, and an easy one if you walk away from tempation, but I don't think people go into marriage figuring that they'll cheat. I think most people think it's reprehensible until they are the ones doing it. Then they just think that they are fallible and human.

 

[janinegirly]

agree trillionaire (''everyone thinks it''s reprehensible until they''re the ones doing it...").

beyond celebrities, I''m sure each of us knows someone (directly or indirectly) who cheated who we never would have suspected...

 

[y2kitty]

Let me interject with a photo.

 

[Dancing Fire]

Date: 12/3/2009 9:20:10 AM
Author: ZoeBartlett

Date: 12/2/2009 8:04:05 PM
Author: Haven

I agree also. I was watching ''The View'' yesterday, and Whoopi Goldberg was saying something similar.

Some were saying that once you''re in the public eye, you give up some amount of privacy. I don''t agree. Just because you''re famous, doesn''t mean that people have the right to know everything about that person. Tiger Woods is a guy who is going through a difficult time, and he deserves the right to go through it privately.

We can''t read too much into the situation because not much info. was put out there. As far as I''m concerned, it''s all just speculation until more facts are given (by him and his wife, if they choose to go public).

yep,agree 100%.

 

[Rock_of_Love]

Date: 12/3/2009 2:02:21 PM
Author: meresal

Date: 12/3/2009 12:17:55 PM
Author: Lanie


Thought this was an interesting quote from today. It''s from Jesper Parnevik, the pro golfer who introduced Elin (his then-nanny) to Tiger.

''I feel really sorry for Elin,'' he told The Golf Channel on Wednesday. ''I would be especially sad about it since I''m kind of ... I really feel sorry for Elin, since me and my wife were at fault for hooking her up with him. We probably thought he was a better guy than he is. I would probably need to apologize to her and hope she uses a driver next time instead of the 3-iron.''


I wonder if he is talking about her hitting the car, or Tiger? I''m sure you guys have heard the jokes and seen the doctored pictures of her standing next to Tiger who is beat up in the face. I didn''t think she had done anything myself. But after seeing this quote, apparently she did!

Drivers are hollow... a 3-iron would definitely give you the most impact, for the swing. I think her choice was spot on.

My vote would''ve been for a pitching wedge.

 

[meresal]

Date: 12/3/2009 3:06:25 PM
Author: Rock_of_Love

Date: 12/3/2009 2:02:21 PM
Author: meresal

Drivers are hollow... a 3-iron would definitely give you the most impact, for the swing. I think her choice was spot on.

My vote would've been for a pitching wedge.

Those things can do some serious damage at the right angle... and definitely alot more blood!

I inadvertantly sliced the inside of my ankle open when I tried to hit my wedge against the inside of my shoe. Hurt like a B!@&h and bled forever.


ETA: I'm thinking this is how her thoughts went when she looked at the bag...

Driver... have to remove headcover!
Woods... have to remove headcovers!
3 iron... tallest one so it is obviously the first you grab.

The wedges are so short they usually hide under the canopy of all the other clubheads.

 

[Lanie]

I hope it was a brand new, super expensive 3 iron too.

 

[AGBF]

Date: 12/3/2009 2:12:41 PM
Author: trillionaire

I don't think that most men get married thinking that they will cheat, but monotony sets in, and novelty begins to look more attractive. I'm in your husband's camp... fidelity is a decision, and an easy one if you walk away from tempation, but I don't think people go into marriage figuring that they'll cheat. I think most people think it's reprehensible until they are the ones doing it. Then they just think that they are fallible and human.

I am not someone who feels that cheating has to end a marriage. I take exception to a man berating his wife for ruining Thanksgiving because she dares to make too much of his having been involved in a cheating scandal, though. That's when I find myself thinking she should choose the implement in the golf bag that does the most damage...and use it on his car (not his person).

AGBF

 

[Vancity]

Le Tigre accused Elin of "ruining Thanksgiving"?

Hmm…sounds like she turned it into Cinco de Mayo, and went after him like a pinata