New Yorkers are demanding

[E B]

Indeed; I read their takes on it as well.

But herein lies a PERFECT example of this ongoing debate laced with biased viewpoints on perceived political 'misconduct'. You can't point at the Clinton/uranium concerns and say 'nope, no proof, she's innocent, look over here at Trump & Russians, etc' while simulanteuously hanging a noose from the tree with Trump's name on it for something he is perceived (ONLY by the media and liberals) to have done.

I didn't say this, nor did the fact-checking articles. And if you did read any of the articles, you'll see what an apples-to-seeds comparison the two are. That said, if there's reason to investigate Hillary for wrongdoing, I'm sure it'll happen. She's been through it and back about a hundred times. The links at this point seem awfully tenuous, however. For Trump, a little more so, not to mention he's the current president. And by the way, this isn't just some lib fantasy, it is a multi-IC investigation that has been going on long before he was elected, was just described by Burr as the largest Hill investigation he's ever seen, and was just reported by both the NYT and ranking member of the HIC as having "more than circumstantial" evidence of collusion. A whole lotta bipartisan participation for a lib witch hunt, me thinks.

I do want to point out, and then I'll let you have the last word, that during the election process you were just as guilty of the noose-tying behavior you're scolding others for, here. And to a certain extent, there's nothing wrong with it. Our first amendment rights, and all. Your candidate (and I know what you'll say here, but your vote = your candidate) holding the presidency has given you a unique platform on which to rest in this regard, but I hope this is something you DO realize, whether you acknowledge it or not.

 

[OreoRosies86]

X1000000000000000 EB. Every word.

 

[the_mother_thing]

I didn't say this, nor did the fact-checking articles. And if you did read any of the articles, you'll see what an apples-to-seeds comparison the two are. That said, if there's reason to investigate Hillary for wrongdoing, I'm sure it'll happen. She's been through it and back about a hundred times. The links at this point seem awfully tenuous, however. For Trump, a little more so, not to mention he's the current president. And by the way, this isn't just some lib fantasy, it is a multi-IC investigation that has been going on long before he was elected, was just described by Burr as the largest Hill investigation he's ever seen, and was just reported by both the NYT and ranking member of the HIC as having "more than circumstantial" evidence of collusion. A whole lotta bipartisan participation for a lib witch hunt, me thinks.

I do want to point out, and then I'll let you have the last word, that during the election process you were just as guilty of the noose-tying behavior you're scolding others for, here. And to a certain extent, there's nothing wrong with it. Our first amendment rights, and all. Your candidate (and I know what you'll say here, but your vote = your candidate) holding the presidency has given you a unique platform on which to rest in this regard, but I hope this is something you DO realize, whether you acknowledge it or not.

Sorry EB - I didn't mean 'you' personally; rather, the collective. And both sides are guilty of claiming innocence of their person/party while skewering the other for 'like' (albeit not identical) actions.

And I don't really care whether you (collectively) call Chump 'my candidate' or not. If I cared, or was the least embarrassed by my vote, I wouldn't have said how I voted. But as Americans with equal voting rights, I would hope everyone can simply respect each person's right to a vote for their own reasons, lest you don't wish the same in return.

I'm not sure what this obsession is with granting someone 'the last word' (Elliot has said the same) ... it reminds me of my lib-father who likes to throw out a bunch of nonsense, then say 'and I don't want to talk about it anymore' like a 3 year old.

 

[OreoRosies86]

Well, both my parents voted for Trump, and while they know my stance, I'm certainly not engaging in weekly conversations where one of us hangs up. It seems like your "lib-father" bothers you a lot, to the point where I wonder why you keep egging it on instead of shutting it down. Maybe because having the last word is extremely important to you.

 

[the_mother_thing]

Well, both my parents voted for Trump, and while they know my stance, I'm certainly not engaging in weekly conversations where one of us hangs up. It seems like your "lib-father" bothers you a lot, to the point where I wonder why you keep egging it on instead of shutting it down. Maybe because having the last word is extremely important to you.

I'm not sure why you would think I 'egg him on'; he calls me to spout off about it ... not vice versa. My hanging up on him is me 'shutting him down'; I just don't resort to toddler-like taunts like '1, 2, 2 1/2, 2 3/4 ...' when I do it. But it's thoughtful of you to recall the details of his & my exchanges.

 

[OreoRosies86]

Like anyone else here, if you mention something enough times I will remember it. I know the names of many people's pets, their city, etc and in your case you've mentioned your liberal father and the dramatic hang ups a number of times. So you're welcome I guess? I eagerly await your inevitable reply

 

[kenny]

PS has an ignore function.

 

[Maria D]

PS jaaron - remember that he also is not taking a paycheck (is donating it annually to charity and even asked the media to suggest recipients).

hahahaha just amazing...

He IS drawing a paycheck. He has promised to donate the funds to a charity at the end of the year. I believe this is the same time that Mexico will be reimbursing US taxpayers for his wall. Because we know how well Trump keeps his promises!

 

[the_mother_thing]

Like anyone else here, if you mention something enough times I will remember it. I know the names of many people's pets, their city, etc and in your case you've mentioned your liberal father and the dramatic hang ups a number of times. So you're welcome I guess? I eagerly await your inevitable reply

I guess I'm honored to have made your list. And I'm so glad you shared that your parents are Trump supporters who appear to respect and demonstrate sensitivity in light of your views, experiences, etc.; that just further illustrates how much more tolerant & respectful Trump voters/cons/reps are than libs give them credit for.

 

[OreoRosies86]

Oh THERE you are! I was beginning to wonder if you weren't going to be totally predictable. My parents and I make the effort to not discuss politics. They aren't having sensitive, respectful discussions with me because I won't discuss Trump with them. Even though my dad did recently express regret, and my mom horrified about the direction DoE has taken. Oh, and they both shut up pretty quickly when I informed them that their daughter, a survivor of sexual assault, would prefer not to discuss the presidency of a man who admitted to sexual assault on camera. No weekly hang ups required! Slow claps for everyone!

 

[the_mother_thing]

Oh THERE you are! I was beginning to wonder if you weren't going to be totally predictable. My parents and I make the effort to not discuss politics. They aren't having sensitive, respectful discussions with me because I won't discuss Trump with them. Even though my dad did recently express regret, and my mom horrified about the direction DoE has taken. Oh, and they both shut up pretty quickly when I informed them that their daughter, a survivor of sexual assault, would prefer not to discuss the presidency of a man who admitted to sexual assault on camera. No weekly hang ups required! Slow claps for everyone!

I am so touched to see how much free ren... uhhh, concern, you have for my whereabouts. Rest easy, dear Elliot, I'm fine; just had to get my taxes done, so don't you worry your pretty little head about me.

But back to your parents ... again, you even further reiterate just how respectful and sensitive Trump voters are towards people with differing views and such. It'd be so cool if libs - including my father - took note, though as I noted earlier, he is getting better, so I suppose there is hope for them after all.

 

[OreoRosies86]

Speaking of free rent it was so thoughtful of you to remember that thread I created weeks ago about bringing my cat home. Remember, you were "confused" about it, because you thought I had brought her home already.

I just posted an adorable new kitty pic over in that thread, btw. Nothing better than kitty snugs!

 

[Dancing Fire]

I'm not sure what this obsession is with granting someone 'the last word' (Elliot has said the same) ... it reminds me of my lib-father who likes to throw out a bunch of nonsense, then say 'and I don't want to talk about it anymore' like a 3 year old.

My far left brother

thinks that Obama is the greatest Prez. ever. I asked him to come up with three good reasons why he think so, and now after two yrs he still can't come up with one good reason.

 

[the_mother_thing]

Ahhhh, dear Elliot. I fear you're confused now. 'Free rent' would be like reading every one of your posts with some sort of prejudice, ill feelings, malice, etc; I don't, as that really seems rather stalkerish IMO. I admittedly only read your first post in that thread when I offered my heartfelt congrats on the kitteh homecoming. And because your post (below for your reference) was silent as to 'when' it was happening, I (admittedly) assumed it was happening when you posted about it; not weeks later, thus my confusion.

However after what was a long month, my bestest most favorite cat in the entire world is coming home

But all is well, your kitteh is back home, and I'm sure you're thankful it didn't totally escape when it was spooked into the walls of your home.

 

[ruby59]

The more I learn about Obama and what is coming out about his time in office, the worse I think of him.

As far as his so called signature healthcare it was predicated on lies.

The economy was in the toilet.

Never mind all the terror incidences that took place under his watch.

And he showed his true colors before leaving office in his feelings for Israel and apparently his administration did cause problems for the incoming one.

 

[Dancing Fire]

I am so touched to see how much free ren... uhhh, concern, you have for my whereabouts. Rest easy, dear Elliot, I'm fine; just had to get my taxes done, so don't you worry your pretty little head about me.

The 1 Percenter club...

 

[the_mother_thing]

The 1 Percenter club...

Right! This'll be me, come April 18th when I mail off my check.


And don't ya'll go making fun of my mullet and goatee.

 

[the_mother_thing]

The more I learn about Obama and what is coming out about his time in office, the worse I think of him.

As far as his so called signature healthcare it was predicated on lies.

The economy was in the toilet.

Never mind all the terror incidences that took place under his watch.

And he showed his true colors before leaving office in his feelings for Israel and apparently his administration did cause problems for the incoming one.

I will say this - the more that DOES come out about what the prior admin allegedly did to set Trump up for failure, the more I AM glad I voted how I did. I suspect we wouldn't know any of this had the election turned out the other way.

 

[mary poppins]

Donald Trump “feels great” about spending his time at Mar-a-Lago, his spokesman Sean Spicer has said.

Since his inauguration, Mr Trump has spent at least seven weekends at the so-called ‘Winter White House’ in Florida.

The estimated security costs of each trip are more than $3million and local law enforcement has also struggled to deal with securing the local town of Palm Beach for the President.

Mr Spicer was asked by Fox 5 if Mr Trump was concerned about “pushback” he received from the costs associated with the trips and if this had influenced his decision not to attend Mar-a-Lago last week, or to visit this weekend.

He replied: “No, he [Mr Trump] feels great.”

The President’s recreational trips stand in strong contrast to his comments made on the campaign trail last year, when he said he would “rarely leave the White House because there’s so much work to be done”.

But Mr Trump has made no indication of halting his trips to his Florida property.

Yet concerns abound over how the Presidency can properly function at the resort. There was outcry after Mr Trump’ messy response to a North Korean missile test was documented on social media by Mar-a-Lago guests in the same room.

On the same trip, a guest posted a picture of himself to Facebook posting with a military official who apparently was carrying the nuclear codes.

It was recently announced the Government Accountability Office will examine security procedures of the Secret Service at Mar-a-Lago and the costs of the government employees travelling there.

The projected cost of security for Mr Trump’s visits over a four year presidential term was reported to be an estimated to be $600 million. This is just over the amount his administration plans on cutting for social, education and cultural programmes.


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That amount is solely for trips to Mar-a-Lago / does not include any other travel or security for Trump or his family members. Video and cartoon in link. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...t-spending-millions-sean-spicer-a7657891.html

 

[ruby59]

Spending time at his own home has to be cheaper than all the times Obama schleped the whole family out to Hawaii and Martha's Vineyard.

 

[jaaron]

Spending time at his own home has to be cheaper than all the times Obama schleped the whole family out to Hawaii and Martha's Vineyard.

But that's the point. Factually, it is not.

 

[ruby59]

But that's the point. Factually, it is not.

Why, have you seen all the bills?

As a Rhode Islander I can tell you it was a PITA every summer when the President descended on the Vineyard and how many other lives it disrupted.

At least with Trump he is not impacting others.

 

[jaaron]

Why, have you seen all the bills?

As a Rhode Islander I can tell you it was a PITA every summer when the President descended on the Vineyard and how many other lives it disrupted.

At least with Trump he is not impacting others.

Well, no, have you? Assuming, not, I guess I'll choose to trust this (from a right-leaning publication, by the way) over your assertion that 'spending time at his own home has to be cheaper than all the times Obama schlepped the whole family out to Hawaii and Martha's Vineyard'.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallm...-as-obamas-cost-in-a-whole-year/#4654098936e4

How is he not impacting others?
The Palm Beach police are asking for extra money, and I think an awful lot of New Yorkers would disagree with you about the family's living arrangements not impacting others.
http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/10/news/trump-tower-hearing/

And just out of curiosity, how did their visits to Martha's Vineyard impact R.I.? As a lifelong east coaster, I'm puzzled by that.

 

[siamese3]

Why, have you seen all the bills?

As a Rhode Islander I can tell you it was a PITA every summer when the President descended on the Vineyard and how many other lives it disrupted.

At least with Trump he is not impacting others.

How is Trump not impacting others?

 

[ruby59]

Well, no, have you? Assuming, not, I guess I'll choose to trust this (from a right-leaning publication, by the way) over your assertion that 'spending time at his own home has to be cheaper than all the times Obama schlepped the whole family out to Hawaii and Martha's Vineyard'.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallm...-as-obamas-cost-in-a-whole-year/#4654098936e4

How is he not impacting others?
The Palm Beach police are asking for extra money, and I think an awful lot of New Yorkers would disagree with you about the family's living arrangements not impacting others.
http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/10/news/trump-tower-hearing/

And just out of curiosity, how did their visits to Martha's Vineyard impact R.I.? As a lifelong east coaster, I'm puzzled by that.

Big difference. Melania and her son lived in New York at Trump towers before the election and she is only asking for her son to be able to finish out the school year.

As far as the Vineyard impacting R.I., when people here want to go on a short vacation in the summer, where do you think we go - to our nearby State of Massachusetts - Cape Cod, Martha's Vineyard, etc.

 

[telephone89]

I don't get it. The obamas rented like, 1 house. They didn't rent out an entire city. How does this impact you not being able to go on vacation? Were you planning on renting the EXACT house he was, but got scrapped because the owner would prefer the president? That's the only real justification I can see for being slighted when the president rents a vacation home in a place sort of near you.

 

[soxfan]

Soooooo....Obama's vacation at the Vineyard interfered with your vacation at the Vineyard? Ok....

Did you read the articles that show just HOW much money Chump is spending as opposed to Obama for vacations? I just want to hear how you feel now that you have actually seen the numbers.

 

[jaaron]

I don't think the local business owners feel there's no difference between before, when people could access the area easily, and now that they can't, so that's a bit cavalier toward small business owners on your part.

So, if I'm understanding correctly, the issue was that for the two weeks a year (or whatever) that the Obamas were on Martha's Vineyard, it was off limits to the people of Rhode Island? Ok, got it. I guess the people of Massachusetts must have felt that way about Maine when Bush was prez, and the people of the neighbouring state about Racho del Cielo when Reagan was prez...

Did you by any chance look at the numbers in the Forbes article?

 

[ruby59]

How is Trump not impacting others?

When Trump goes back home he is returning to a place that already has high security.

When Obama went to the Vineyard and Hawaii, he was disrupting people's lives every time he walked out of the mansion he was staying at because whole areas had to be cordoned off.

 

[soxfan]

When Trump goes back home he is returning to a place that already has high security.

When Obama went to the Vineyard and Hawaii, he was disrupting people's lives every time he walked out of the mansion he was staying at because whole areas had to be cordoned off.

Ummmmm.... are you talking about NY or Mar a Lago? So you didn't read the articles. Ok.