Home Morning Afer Pill-- thoughts??

[somethingshiny]

First, let me preface this thread. Please don''t turn this into a pro-choice or women''s rights thread.

 

[cara]

Its pretty hard not to address 'pro-choice' or women's rights in this thread given the poll options you've presented and the topic! For cryin' out loud, one of your options calls it abortion (which it clearly is not) so if that isn't uppin the ante, I don't know what is.

(Unless you meant that you wanted to turn it into an anti-choice or deny-women's right thread, whatever that means.)

I don't quite see my views represented. The morning after pill is birth control and there is nothing wrong with it being used as in emergency situations, but it is not really appropriate as being one's primary method for several reasons, none of which is a moral problem: it is not terribly effective and not especially pleasant for a women to take on a regular basis. Its great for a whoopsies! when a baby would be inconvenient and the couple was reckless for whatever reason, but people serious about avoiding pregnancies should be using a different method.

 

[musey]

I view it as a very useful form of emergency contraceptive. Not an "appropriate method of birth control." But I suppose that's splitting hairs.

To answer what I believe to be your real question, I do not take moral issue with it. My understanding is that it prevents pregnancy as opposed to terminating pregnancy (which is not to suggest that I do or do not take issue with the latter, but that's neither here nor there).

 

[ladypirate]

Ditto Cara and Musey--it''s not really appropriate as a primary form of birth control, but it''s effective for emergency contraception.

 

[purrfectpear]

I know of NO ONE who is using it as "birth control" to the exclusion of other methods. I believe it is intended for AND USED as a "back up method" for when your current birth control method may have failed (broken condom, forgot condom in heat of the moment, slipped diaphragm, etc.).

So if your poll is actually asking if people use it as the primary method of birth control, it''s a silly poll and I think you know that.

 

[Italiahaircolor]

Date: 5/26/2009 8:45:12 PM
Author: ladypirate
Ditto Cara and Musey--it''s not really appropriate as a primary form of birth control, but it''s effective for emergency contraception.

Agreed.

 

[pinkstars]

Date: 5/26/2009 8:45:12 PM
Author: ladypirate
Ditto Cara and Musey--it''s not really appropriate as a primary form of birth control, but it''s effective for emergency contraception.

I agree.

 

[DivaDiamond007]

Date: 5/26/2009 8:59:09 PM
Author: pinkstars

Date: 5/26/2009 8:45:12 PM
Author: ladypirate
Ditto Cara and Musey--it''s not really appropriate as a primary form of birth control, but it''s effective for emergency contraception.

I agree.

I agree as well.

 

[curlygirl]

Date: 5/26/2009 9:00:38 PM
Author: DivaDiamond007

Date: 5/26/2009 8:59:09 PM
Author: pinkstars

Date: 5/26/2009 8:45:12 PM
Author: ladypirate
Ditto Cara and Musey--it''s not really appropriate as a primary form of birth control, but it''s effective for emergency contraception.

I agree.

I agree as well.

I''m in this camp as well!

 

[kittybean]

Date: 5/26/2009 8:46:52 PM
Author: Italiahaircolor

Date: 5/26/2009 8:45:12 PM

Author: ladypirate

Ditto Cara and Musey--it''s not really appropriate as a primary form of birth control, but it''s effective for emergency contraception.

Agreed.

+1. I don''t really have a moral opposition to the Morning After Pill, but I don''t think it''s an appropriate method of "birth control."

 

[icekid]

I certainly would not recommend it as a primary form of BC, but if someone needs it for whatever reason, I would have no problem with it.

 

[somethingshiny]

My first poll choice must have been misworded. I meant for the first choice to mean, "there''s no moral issue. It''s appropriate for back-up of many initial birth control methods." I said "appropriate method of birth control" meaning "bc backup", not primary. I assumed that was understood.

As far as this not turning into a pro-choice, pro-life thread--that''s why I put the "abortion" option. IF someone feels that strongly about it, that''s all they need to choose and not go into abortion ethics. I did it to keep this thread from getting too intense.

 

[Bia]

I consider it an emergency pill. As far as having a moral opinion on it, I have no opinions.

 

[princesss]

Date: 5/26/2009 8:45:12 PM
Author: ladypirate
Ditto Cara and Musey--it''s not really appropriate as a primary form of birth control, but it''s effective for emergency contraception.

Ditto.

 

[luckystar112]

I agree with everyone else. I prefer that this pill be used so that harsher methods are not.

 

[Irishgrrrl]

Date: 5/26/2009 9:02:36 PM
Author: curlygirl

Date: 5/26/2009 9:00:38 PM
Author: DivaDiamond007

Date: 5/26/2009 8:59:09 PM
Author: pinkstars

Date: 5/26/2009 8:45:12 PM
Author: ladypirate
Ditto Cara and Musey--it''s not really appropriate as a primary form of birth control, but it''s effective for emergency contraception.

I agree.

I agree as well.

I''m in this camp as well!

+1

 

[E B]

Date: 5/26/2009 8:45:12 PM
Author: ladypirate
Ditto Cara and Musey--it''s not really appropriate as a primary form of birth control, but it''s effective for emergency contraception.

I completely agree.

 

[Indylady]

Date: 5/26/2009 9:02:36 PM
Author: curlygirl

Date: 5/26/2009 9:00:38 PM

Author: DivaDiamond007

Date: 5/26/2009 8:59:09 PM

Author: pinkstars

Date: 5/26/2009 8:45:12 PM

Author: ladypirate

Ditto Cara and Musey--it''s not really appropriate as a primary form of birth control, but it''s effective for emergency contraception.

I agree.

I agree as well.

I''m in this camp as well!

Agreed.

 

[MichelleCarmen]

Date: 5/26/2009 8:46:30 PM
Author: purrfectpear

So if your poll is actually asking if people use it as the primary method of birth control, it''s a silly poll and I think you know that.

Who could afford to use it as a primary birth control? Plan B is expensive!

 

[MichelleCarmen]

Date: 5/26/2009 8:31:52 PM
Author: musey
I view it as a very useful form of emergency contraceptive. Not an 'appropriate method of birth control.' But I suppose that's splitting hairs.

To answer what I believe to be your real question, I do not take moral issue with it. My understanding is that it prevents pregnancy as opposed to terminating pregnancy (which is not to suggest that I do or do not take issue with the latter, but that's neither here nor there).

It is to prevent pregnancy. That is why it's suppose to be taken w/in only 72 hours after unprotected sex!

 

[somethingshiny]

Okay, Now for where the question came from...for any of you still interested.

I wasn''t asking for the "moral" reason of bc (backup or otherwise) or prevention, termination, etc.

I was asking because my sister who knows her bc pill doesn''t work (because she has periods that last for two weeks, etc. and her dr has told her that the pill seems to be ineffective for her and she should change it) has unprotected sex ANYWAY and then depends on the Plan B.

To me, this is an entirely DIFFERENT "moral" issue of responsibility from the get-go.

Does this scenario change any of your minds??

 

[chrono]

Given that scenario, I personally don''t think it''s a good plan B. That is just plain irresponsible. My opinion is that it should be used very rarely as in the condom broke, forgot a pill, rape, and etc.

 

[Clairitek]

Date: 5/26/2009 8:31:52 PM
Author: musey
I view it as a very useful form of emergency contraceptive. Not an ''appropriate method of birth control.'' But I suppose that''s splitting hairs.

To answer what I believe to be your real question, I do not take moral issue with it. My understanding is that it prevents pregnancy as opposed to terminating pregnancy (which is not to suggest that I do or do not take issue with the latter, but that''s neither here nor there).

Ditto.

 

[cara]

Date: 5/27/2009 11:30:02 AM
Author: somethingshiny
Okay, Now for where the question came from...for any of you still interested.

I wasn''t asking for the ''moral'' reason of bc (backup or otherwise) or prevention, termination, etc.

I was asking because my sister who knows her bc pill doesn''t work (because she has periods that last for two weeks, etc. and her dr has told her that the pill seems to be ineffective for her and she should change it) has unprotected sex ANYWAY and then depends on the Plan B.

To me, this is an entirely DIFFERENT ''moral'' issue of responsibility from the get-go.

Does this scenario change any of your minds??

Words that occur to me: risky, expensive, nausea-inducing.

Yes, this is irresponsible in that she is not taking a proactive, responsible course for her health and for proper family planning, but this does not make her too much different from the millions of others that ignore certain health issues they may have or use birth control methods sloppily or use methods with a low effectiveness rating.

If the pill she was on was not working for her (and plenty of women have issues with various pills) she should try another. Different formulation might have better results. Or if none of them work, she should try a different method or product.

But really - how is this your business? Well, she is your sister but she is also an adult. Always tricky to try to persuade other adults to be more responsible for their health or stop engaging in risky practices. The most you can do is offer up some medical knowledge and support -ie. try to recommend she see a different doctor, try a different pill, consider an IUD, whatever - and ask her a few probing questions to make sure she understands that she is risking pregnancy by relying on the morning after pill alone. (And what would she do if it failed?)

But getting through to her in a concerned way, without coming of as meddlesome, judgemental, nagging sister butting into her business, well, with *that* challenging task, I wish you luck. (Since I have not always succeeded on that front, though on different topics thus far.)

 

[tigian]

Date: 5/26/2009 8:46:30 PM
Author: purrfectpear
I know of NO ONE who is using it as ''birth control'' to the exclusion of other methods. I believe it is intended for AND USED as a ''back up method'' for when your current birth control method may have failed (broken condom, forgot condom in heat of the moment, slipped diaphragm, etc.).

Exactly!

 

[Circe]

I voted, "I think the pill is not appropriate but not necessarily wrong. " However, this was based on the classification of Plan B as contraception, where I have no moral difficlulty with it, but think it would be a terrible form of regular contraception (and also, kind of a repeat of the calumny of "some women use abortion as a form of birth control!" which, yeah). After your explanation, I think the first choice is a more appropriate category ... I think it''s a really valuable option for a lot of women in a lot of situations.

As for your sister ... I''d be more worried about STDs than anything else, frankly.

 

[Elmorton]

If we're talking about the same pill that is basically just like taking 5 of your regular BC pills at once, I don't think anyone would WANT to do either option as regular BC because it would make your system a big irregular mess. Getting off track on your BC is not a pleasant experience. If the pill doesn't work, I'd go with something else - the shot, ring, patch, something.

SS - this is a weird q, but is your sister obese? I remember reading the label once on one of my bc methods (I can't remember which) that said it was only effective up to 250 lbs. There's got to be stronger options out there, and I would imagine that an OB would know of these.

 

[princesss]

That''s not at all responsible use of it, and does change the situation in my mind.

Plan B isn''t primary birth control. It''s expensive, it puts your body through the wringer, it has to be taken in precise increments, and it''s irresponsible, IMO. I say this as somebody who has used it twice (both times as tertiary BC when my normal methods were compromised). It put my body through hell.

Obviously nothing we say can stop your sister from doing whatever she''s going to do, but I would encourage her to speak with her physician (and fast!) about other forms of BC.

 

[AmberGretchen]

Date: 5/26/2009 8:26:48 PM
Author: cara
Its pretty hard not to address ''pro-choice'' or women''s rights in this thread given the poll options you''ve presented and the topic! For cryin'' out loud, one of your options calls it abortion (which it clearly is not) so if that isn''t uppin the ante, I don''t know what is.


(Unless you meant that you wanted to turn it into an anti-choice or deny-women''s right thread, whatever that means.)


I don''t quite see my views represented. The morning after pill is birth control and there is nothing wrong with it being used as in emergency situations, but it is not really appropriate as being one''s primary method for several reasons, none of which is a moral problem: it is not terribly effective and not especially pleasant for a women to take on a regular basis. Its great for a whoopsies! when a baby would be inconvenient and the couple was reckless for whatever reason, but people serious about avoiding pregnancies should be using a different method.

Ditto, exactly.

 

[MustangGal]

I''m with everyone else with thinking it''s good for emergency situations, but not regular use.

I wonder if repetedly taking Plan B has added to her issue with BC not working? If it is like a super dose of BC hormones, then that might be changing her up and not allowing the pill to work correctly. Maybe buy her a big box of condoms?