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Ladies, are these silly, or a good idea?
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I didn''t know there were so many of these now....
No, I wouldn''t use one. The main reason for using one seems to be that you don''t have to sit on the toliet seat and so is more hygenic. You''re more likely to collect germs and bacteria from the flush button, the doorhandles and taps then the toilet seat. What, other then not having to touch the toilet, makes peeing like a man so great that women need to be able to do it too?
Also, what do you do with it afterwards? Throw it away? in what bin? Isn''t that wasteful and adding to landfills? Can they be recycled? If so, who''s public bathrooms have recycling bins? For the clean and reuse ones, are we ment to carry them out of the cubical and wash the pee off it in the sink and put it back in our handbags? I''m personally anti urine in my sink.
Unless someone invented one which you could throw into the loo after use and disolved like toliet paper, I''m anti peeing-aid.
No, I wouldn''t use one. The main reason for using one seems to be that you don''t have to sit on the toliet seat and so is more hygenic. You''re more likely to collect germs and bacteria from the flush button, the doorhandles and taps then the toilet seat. What, other then not having to touch the toilet, makes peeing like a man so great that women need to be able to do it too?
Also, what do you do with it afterwards? Throw it away? in what bin? Isn''t that wasteful and adding to landfills? Can they be recycled? If so, who''s public bathrooms have recycling bins? For the clean and reuse ones, are we ment to carry them out of the cubical and wash the pee off it in the sink and put it back in our handbags? I''m personally anti urine in my sink.
Unless someone invented one which you could throw into the loo after use and disolved like toliet paper, I''m anti peeing-aid.
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HAHA Hovering! I think all women are skilled at that!
Okay, so I''ve never used one of those thingamajigs, but I can think of a situation or two where it might come in handy...
I enjoy concerts, and tailgaiting... ballgames, and tailgaiting. The lines for the port-a-potties are so ridiculous, and they are always so gross. Ugh.
Those would come in handy then - I could just go in my car
lol I would worry about leakage, though...
Okay, so I''ve never used one of those thingamajigs, but I can think of a situation or two where it might come in handy...
I enjoy concerts, and tailgaiting... ballgames, and tailgaiting. The lines for the port-a-potties are so ridiculous, and they are always so gross. Ugh.
Those would come in handy then - I could just go in my car
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I would! Not for the general public bathroom use that the site shows, but definitely for hiking. I first saw them when I was preparing for my hike in CO this summer, debated about buying one for each of the women in my group, but said "nah. that''s just silly." However, I learned that you don''t have to go too far up a mountain to no longer have much tree coverage. So sure, we squatted/hovered all ya like, but my bare bum was out in the open for anyone coming up the ridge, or around the bend. There were definitely long stretches of the only place to be was on the path, or straight down. The men, simply turned around and did there thing. Meanwhile, our relieving, was at min. two woman job, as we were hiking with a large group, so someone had to keep a look out to ask hikers coming up from behind to hang back 10 feet etc...Now, when I am worried about drinking enough water, I don''t want to think, well maybe I''ll hold off, since I''ve already had to bother with this twice...
Never had this issue in New England, where the hills are covered in trees
Never had this issue in New England, where the hills are covered in trees
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Silly. I looked at options when we went camping. Trust me, they get worse.
Women are very talented. If we can manage a public restroom, we can manage ANYTHING
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When you have to visit a public bathroom, you usually find a line of women, so you smile politely and take your place. Once it''s your turn, you check for feet under the stall doors. Every stall is occupied. Finally, a door opens and you dash in, nearly knocking down the woman leaving the stall.
You get in to find the door won''t latch. It doesn''t matter, the wait has been so long you are about to wet your pants! The dispenser for the modern "seat covers" (invented by someone''s Mom, no doubt) is handy, but empty. You would hang your purse on the door hook, if there was one, but there isn''t - so you carefully, but quickly drape it around your neck, (Mom would turn over in her grave if you put it on the FLOOR!), yank down your pants and assume "The Stance."
In this position your aging, toneless thigh muscles begin to shake. You''d love to sit down, but you certainly hadn''t taken time to wipe the seat or lay toilet paper on it, so you hold "The Stance."
To take your mind off your trembling thighs, you reach for what you discover to be the empty toilet paper dispenser. In your mind, you can hear your mother''s voice saying, "Honey, if you had tried to clean the seat, you would have KNOWN there was no toilet paper!"
Your thighs shake more.
You remember the tiny tissue that you blew your nose on yesterday the one that''s still in your purse. (Oh yeah, the purse around your neck, that now, you have to hold up trying not to strangle yourself at the same time). That would have to do. You crumple it in the puffiest way possible.
It''s still smaller than your thumbnail.
Someone pushes your door open because the latch doesn''t work. The door hits your purse, which is hanging around your neck in front of your chest, and you and your purse topple backward against the tank of the toilet. "Occupied!" you scream, as you reach for the door, dropping your precious, tiny, crumpled tissue in a puddle on the floor, lose your footing altogether, and slide down directly onto the TOILET SEAT. It is wet of course. You bolt up, knowing all too well that it''s too late.
Your bare bottom has made contact with every imaginable germ and life form on the uncovered seat because YOU never laid down toilet paper- not that there was any, even if you had taken time to try.
You know that your mother would be utterly appalled if she knew, because, you''re certain her bare bottom never touched a public toilet seat because, frankly, dear, "You just don''t KNOW what kind of diseases you could get."
By this time, the automatic sensor on the back of the toilet is so confused that it flushes, propelling a stream of water like a fire hose against the inside of the bowl that sprays a fine mist of water that covers your butt and runs down your legs and into your shoes. The flush somehow sucks everything down with such force that you grab onto the empty toilet paper dispenser for fear of being dragged in too. At this point you give up.
You''re soaked by the spewing water and the wet toilet seat. You''re exhausted. You try to wipe with a gum wrapper you found in your pocket and then slink out inconspicuously to the sinks.
You can''t figure out how to operate the faucets with the automatic sensors, so you wipe your hands with spit and a dry paper towel and walk past the line of women, still waiting. You are no longer able to smile politely to them. A kind soul at the very end of the line points out a piece of toilet paper trailing from your shoe. (Where was that when you NEEDED it??) You yank the paper from your shoe, plunk it in the woman''s hand and tell her warmly, "Here, you just might need this." As you exit, you spot your hubby, who has long since entered, used and left the men''s rest-room. Annoyed, he asks, "What took you so long, and why is your purse hanging around your neck?"
This is dedicated to women everywhere who deal with a public rest-room (rest??? you''ve got to be kidding!!). It finally explains to the men what really does take us so long. It also answers their other commonly asked questions about why women go to the rest-room in pairs. It''s so the other gal can hold the door, hang onto your purse and hand you Kleenex under the door!
This HAD to be written by a woman! No one else could describe it so accurately!
Women are very talented. If we can manage a public restroom, we can manage ANYTHING
An e-mail I received:
The Truth
When you have to visit a public bathroom, you usually find a line of women, so you smile politely and take your place. Once it''s your turn, you check for feet under the stall doors. Every stall is occupied. Finally, a door opens and you dash in, nearly knocking down the woman leaving the stall.
You get in to find the door won''t latch. It doesn''t matter, the wait has been so long you are about to wet your pants! The dispenser for the modern "seat covers" (invented by someone''s Mom, no doubt) is handy, but empty. You would hang your purse on the door hook, if there was one, but there isn''t - so you carefully, but quickly drape it around your neck, (Mom would turn over in her grave if you put it on the FLOOR!), yank down your pants and assume "The Stance."
In this position your aging, toneless thigh muscles begin to shake. You''d love to sit down, but you certainly hadn''t taken time to wipe the seat or lay toilet paper on it, so you hold "The Stance."
To take your mind off your trembling thighs, you reach for what you discover to be the empty toilet paper dispenser. In your mind, you can hear your mother''s voice saying, "Honey, if you had tried to clean the seat, you would have KNOWN there was no toilet paper!"
Your thighs shake more.
You remember the tiny tissue that you blew your nose on yesterday the one that''s still in your purse. (Oh yeah, the purse around your neck, that now, you have to hold up trying not to strangle yourself at the same time). That would have to do. You crumple it in the puffiest way possible.
It''s still smaller than your thumbnail.
Someone pushes your door open because the latch doesn''t work. The door hits your purse, which is hanging around your neck in front of your chest, and you and your purse topple backward against the tank of the toilet. "Occupied!" you scream, as you reach for the door, dropping your precious, tiny, crumpled tissue in a puddle on the floor, lose your footing altogether, and slide down directly onto the TOILET SEAT. It is wet of course. You bolt up, knowing all too well that it''s too late.
Your bare bottom has made contact with every imaginable germ and life form on the uncovered seat because YOU never laid down toilet paper- not that there was any, even if you had taken time to try.
You know that your mother would be utterly appalled if she knew, because, you''re certain her bare bottom never touched a public toilet seat because, frankly, dear, "You just don''t KNOW what kind of diseases you could get."
By this time, the automatic sensor on the back of the toilet is so confused that it flushes, propelling a stream of water like a fire hose against the inside of the bowl that sprays a fine mist of water that covers your butt and runs down your legs and into your shoes. The flush somehow sucks everything down with such force that you grab onto the empty toilet paper dispenser for fear of being dragged in too. At this point you give up.
You''re soaked by the spewing water and the wet toilet seat. You''re exhausted. You try to wipe with a gum wrapper you found in your pocket and then slink out inconspicuously to the sinks.
You can''t figure out how to operate the faucets with the automatic sensors, so you wipe your hands with spit and a dry paper towel and walk past the line of women, still waiting. You are no longer able to smile politely to them. A kind soul at the very end of the line points out a piece of toilet paper trailing from your shoe. (Where was that when you NEEDED it??) You yank the paper from your shoe, plunk it in the woman''s hand and tell her warmly, "Here, you just might need this." As you exit, you spot your hubby, who has long since entered, used and left the men''s rest-room. Annoyed, he asks, "What took you so long, and why is your purse hanging around your neck?"
This is dedicated to women everywhere who deal with a public rest-room (rest??? you''ve got to be kidding!!). It finally explains to the men what really does take us so long. It also answers their other commonly asked questions about why women go to the rest-room in pairs. It''s so the other gal can hold the door, hang onto your purse and hand you Kleenex under the door!
This HAD to be written by a woman! No one else could describe it so accurately!
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TooPatient, TOO funny! About the only thing she missed is the joy of the woman AFTER who accuses you of being the one who despoiled the bathroom, when it was like that when you went in.
Kenny ... these all sound kind of unhygenic. I''ve read that women can train themselves to go standing up sans devices (never tried it, though), but outside of a hiking situation, I''m not seeing the utility ....
Kenny ... these all sound kind of unhygenic. I''ve read that women can train themselves to go standing up sans devices (never tried it, though), but outside of a hiking situation, I''m not seeing the utility ....
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I''m unsure how I feel about it! I had an opinion, then read others arguments and I guess it depends what kind of lifestyle you have!
I would TOTALLY use this if I was at a outdoor weekend event concert. Porta-potties make me want to vomit, so the lease amount of skin visible in that little box the better; I think if they invented some that are biodegradable, that would be splendid (disposable pee-machines!), and I think while hiking, it would also be great.
I completely understand Mayachel''s point of view, its fine and dandy to say you''ll squat when camping (there are tons of trees, so its pretty easy) but the higher you get up there, the longer you have to hold it in.
In any other situation though, I doubt it would be very useful.
so hiking and rock concerts!
Actually, maybe even on very long road trips (have some for "just in case") because I remember driving for hours, and trying to get my husband to pull over (I didn''t care that there weren''t any trees, or anything to hide behind, I was going to blow up), but he kept saying "just a little longer honey".
We get to a gas station (eventually) and I swear if my legs were that fast all the times I''d be in the Olympics.
I would TOTALLY use this if I was at a outdoor weekend event concert. Porta-potties make me want to vomit, so the lease amount of skin visible in that little box the better; I think if they invented some that are biodegradable, that would be splendid (disposable pee-machines!), and I think while hiking, it would also be great.
I completely understand Mayachel''s point of view, its fine and dandy to say you''ll squat when camping (there are tons of trees, so its pretty easy) but the higher you get up there, the longer you have to hold it in.
In any other situation though, I doubt it would be very useful.
so hiking and rock concerts!
Actually, maybe even on very long road trips (have some for "just in case") because I remember driving for hours, and trying to get my husband to pull over (I didn''t care that there weren''t any trees, or anything to hide behind, I was going to blow up), but he kept saying "just a little longer honey".
We get to a gas station (eventually) and I swear if my legs were that fast all the times I''d be in the Olympics.
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They do make biodegradable ones that can just get flushed.
Of course that doesn''t help for camping/hiking. I''m with everyone else on this. GROSS. I''m not going to wash and re-use. And certainly not going to carry a bag of USED ones with me until we get to a trash can.
We went camping for 4 days. No toilets for miles. I can hover in public restrooms but have never had good luck with attempting this in the outdoors.
My solution: we bought a camping toilet. Cost about $10. We use it WITHOUT the bags. Essentially what you get is a little seat to help give support (and minimize wet socks) without having to carry anything back with you. Just fill the hole in and take your seat home again.
Nice and clean.
Of course that doesn''t help for camping/hiking. I''m with everyone else on this. GROSS. I''m not going to wash and re-use. And certainly not going to carry a bag of USED ones with me until we get to a trash can.
We went camping for 4 days. No toilets for miles. I can hover in public restrooms but have never had good luck with attempting this in the outdoors.
My solution: we bought a camping toilet. Cost about $10. We use it WITHOUT the bags. Essentially what you get is a little seat to help give support (and minimize wet socks) without having to carry anything back with you. Just fill the hole in and take your seat home again.
Nice and clean.
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You know - at first I blew off this thread... yes so silly - oh hell no would I do that I''m not even going to look at that thread... then I got curious and I thought well I wonder what they''ve come up with now... what the new technology is.
So I looked. And then it occurred to me... I''m moving to China in 3 months and the bathroom situation there is HORRRRRRIBLE and often you''re squatting over a little hole in the ground and, well, maybe this isn''t so silly after all LOL
So I looked. And then it occurred to me... I''m moving to China in 3 months and the bathroom situation there is HORRRRRRIBLE and often you''re squatting over a little hole in the ground and, well, maybe this isn''t so silly after all LOL
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Date: 9/25/2009 12:52:30 AM
Author: thing2of2
No, I wouldn''t use one. I can already pee standing up-it''s called hovering! And since we''re talking about peeing standing up, one time in high school I peed in a urinal...it really isn''t that hard as long as you point in the right direction!
no offense but I''ve always found that the "hover" women are the ones who do the most ick damage to the toilet seat making it even grosser to those who follow... In the US with the seat covers things aren''t as bad as they used to be but much of europe is not on board as of yet and it''s like being back in the 70''s here.
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Date: 9/25/2009 6:11:34 PM
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Date: 9/25/2009 12:52:30 AM
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No, I wouldn''t use one. I can already pee standing up-it''s called hovering! And since we''re talking about peeing standing up, one time in high school I peed in a urinal...it really isn''t that hard as long as you point in the right direction!
no offense but I''ve always found that the ''hover'' women are the ones who do the most ick damage to the toilet seat making it even grosser to those who follow... In the US with the seat covers things aren''t as bad as they used to be but much of europe is not on board as of yet and it''s like being back in the 70''s here.
I can hover AND aim.
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Date: 9/25/2009 9:37:49 PM
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Date: 9/25/2009 6:11:34 PM
Author: Cehrabehra
Date: 9/25/2009 12:52:30 AM
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No, I wouldn''t use one. I can already pee standing up-it''s called hovering! And since we''re talking about peeing standing up, one time in high school I peed in a urinal...it really isn''t that hard as long as you point in the right direction!
no offense but I''ve always found that the ''hover'' women are the ones who do the most ick damage to the toilet seat making it even grosser to those who follow... In the US with the seat covers things aren''t as bad as they used to be but much of europe is not on board as of yet and it''s like being back in the 70''s here.
I can hover AND aim.
LOL I am actually quite impressed. I can hover and spray. this is such a TMI thread
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Cehrabehra, I think that the bathroom situation in China is actually far more hygienic. Squatting over a urinal like basin on the floor means no spray, it can smell terribly when folks don''t run the water or if there is no water to run, but if you stick with skirts, it really is much more sanitary than any rest-stop in the western world. Knowing that there will be no tp and you have to bring your own guarantees that there is never a let-down. You just have to always have tissues with you. Then again, I have strong thighs (I do lunges in preparation of going to China every year) and breathing only with the mouth is key. But that is true anywhere.
Oh I miss China! Have a wonderful move!
Oh I miss China! Have a wonderful move!
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As for the...uh....devices I think they''re silly and I personally would not use one.
When using public restrooms I do not squat or hover. I sit on the seat and go. There. I said it. I wipe the seat first to make sure it''s at least dry but I''m not a major germ-o-phobe and don''t worry about catching someting from using a toilet. If I go into a public restroom and it''s disgusting then I walk out and hold it until I find somewhere acceptable.
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No, I wouldn't use one. Most pilots are men, and you learn to live with that, but I have my limits. Several years ago the local airport fixed base operator had the toilet out of service (apparently it would overflow if flushed) and all that was available was the urinal. That worked fine for most pilots, but after contemplating it for a minute I decided there was no way I was going to stand and use the urinal. Sorry, guys. I used the toilet, flushed it, and left. I figured if it overflowed that was their problem, not mine.
After that we went to a different fixed base operator on the field to fuel the airplane. As a bonus, they had the nicest women's restrooms around.
It's about respect.
After that we went to a different fixed base operator on the field to fuel the airplane. As a bonus, they had the nicest women's restrooms around.
It's about respect.
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Date: 9/25/2009 10:27:22 PM
Author: Cehrabehra
Date: 9/25/2009 9:37:49 PM
Author: thing2of2
Date: 9/25/2009 6:11:34 PM
Author: Cehrabehra
Date: 9/25/2009 12:52:30 AM
Author: thing2of2
No, I wouldn't use one. I can already pee standing up-it's called hovering! And since we're talking about peeing standing up, one time in high school I peed in a urinal...it really isn't that hard as long as you point in the right direction!
no offense but I've always found that the 'hover' women are the ones who do the most ick damage to the toilet seat making it even grosser to those who follow... In the US with the seat covers things aren't as bad as they used to be but much of europe is not on board as of yet and it's like being back in the 70's here.
I can hover AND aim.
LOL I am actually quite impressed. I can hover and spray. this is such a TMI thread
Thing, I too am impressed! And a lil curious...
However, I'm with Sara - usually when you're desperate enough to go in a public place, I can only manage hover and spray.
I don't know why I'm posting this publicly..lol..
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oh, and btw I just looked and I find those "inventions" completely ludicrous and unnecessary...and kinda creepy.
Despite the perils as illustrated by Toopatient''s funny story, I still don''t see why women should need to pee like men.
Can you imagine the reaction if you actually sauntered into a men''s restroom with one of these? ewww...
Despite the perils as illustrated by Toopatient''s funny story, I still don''t see why women should need to pee like men.
Can you imagine the reaction if you actually sauntered into a men''s restroom with one of these? ewww...
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