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I keep my dog on Hartgard year round, instead of subjecting him to a yearly blood test. My neighbor has never given any heartworm meds to her dog and no found out she has heartworms. She told me that treating the disease is very expensive so she is thinking about putting her dog down. My mouth just dropped when she said this.
 
Date: 7/28/2009 1:49:52 PM
Author:soocool
She told me that treating the disease is very expensive so she is thinking about putting her dog down.

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A disease she did nothing to prevent is expensive to treat? How about that.

How infuriating. I hope she ponies up the cash and then gives the dog to someone who'll care for it.

To answer the question, yes, both of my dogs are on Heartgard. There's really no excuse not to provide it unless your vet advises against it (for whatever reason). I think it comes out to a whopping $5 a month per dog.
 
We always gave our dogs Heartguard. It''s so quick and easy and prevents such a dangerous disease. I don''t see how someone could not do it!
 
Absolutely. Every single month
 
Yes, every month.
 
Heartguard every month.
 
Oooh, that''s infuriating. Poor little doggie
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We give our dogs Heartguard every month.
 
Yep, Interceptor.
 
heartguard every month. that poor dog!!
 
Heartguard the first of every month.
 
Oh, how heartbreaking.

We give our Bailee Heartguard every month. In fact, it''s her favorite day of the month--that''s the only food "treat" she ever gets!
 
I kept my dog on Heartguard, I don''t have him anymore but if I can remember correctly. It cost $50 0r $60 for a 6 month supply. I could be a little off though. If your neighbor cant afford to treat her dog with the things he/she needs then she cant afford a dog. Pets are a lot of money to maintain. Food, Frontline,Heartguard, vet bills. Within the few months I had my dog, I spend hundreds on him for shots and checkups, bloodwork to make sure he didn''t have anything wrong that would get worse if I didn''t know about it. What would happen if her pet got sick and needed treatment? She made a more expensive situation for herself. Heart worms can be treated, I''m not sure why she would put him down.
 
Yes, he gets it every month. My parents gave it to my dog growing up and it was one of the first things I bought for Harry when we got him. Besides Heartguard and Frontline, is there anything you give your pups on a monthly or regular basis to keep them healthy?

Harry is prone to ear infections esp. in this left ear. We use a cleanser in his ear (prescribed by his vet) twice a month to keep it clean and to ward against infections.
 
Well pets have parts just like we do and things go wrong with us all the time, Other than Flea and Tick prevention and your Heartguard I think its important to keep up with all their shots and they would get blood work once in a while to make sure all of their organs are working properly. Its can really help your pet, I would give them a check up once a year, it usually cost about $100.
 
Yes, my pug is on Sentinel, though- combination heartworm medicine, flea control and preventative, and wormer.
 
Heartgard every month. I cut two of them into almost paperthin slices and alternate feeding one slice to Heidi, then one slice to Tidbit--they think it''s a big celebration treat and they love it!! Cost is probably $5 a month per dog.

My dogs have what I consider "human" things wrong with them...Heidi has allergies and Tidbit has thyroid problems. That''s another $50 a month for their meds.
 
No, but I just got him tested at 6 months old. Vets are saying test them every 2 years since all these heartworm meds are preventatives and do not kill adult heart worms just the babies. Just like with any medication nothing is 100% and that''s why they recommend testing every 2 years now. The incidence of heartworm is so low in California, I opt to do the testing and the only reason why I am testing him is because the breeder I obtained him from is from the east coast where the incidence of heart worm is greater. Plus, it helps that I work for a Vet hospital to get updated on this sort of stuff.
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That breaks my heart and angers me at the same time. I feel that is irresponsible pet ownership.

My puplet is on monthly heart worm meds. They''re so inexpensive! I think it was $30 for the entire year.
 
Today was trash day in our neighborhood and saw a lot of dog stuff in my neighbor''s trash. I haven''t seen or spoken to my neighbor since Tuesday, but I am guessing she put her dog down. I am sure when I see her she''ll tell me some story about how the dog was too ill or she died before any treatment could be given. My neighbor is prone to being very inventive when it comes to excuses. If she did put her dog down, I don''t think I could ever be friendly to her again.

Bless you all for loving your animals enough to make sure they stay healthy!
 
That''s so sad- that poor dog. I don''t give my dog any meds at all, but that''s because he''s had bad allergic reactions to everything the vet has given him so they''ve recommended that we don''t do any more vaccines or medications. If not for his reactions, he''d be getting them.

Blushingbride- what kind of dog do you have? My dog looks a lot like your avatar. Adorable!
 
That''s absolutely unbelievable. People can be so callous.

My pups get the yearly heartworm injections. They''re much cheaper (here, at least). Think it''s $40 for the yearly injection, but the Heartguard used to cost me something like $10/month.
 
Grr. Dogs are not disposable!
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I don''t understand. Pets are family members.
 
Not everybody (even veterinarians) agrees about this. This is one of many quotes obtained when googling about heartworm medicine side effects:


Heartworm-prevention pills are actually small doses of curative substances that kill the early stage of heartworms. The pills contain an insecticide, which can be toxic over time.

Most Common Side Effects

Possible side effects of taking heartworm-prevention pills include vomiting, diarrhea, weakness and seizures.

Toxicity

Because the drugs are essentially small amounts of poison, the dog''s liver and kidneys must work to eliminate the toxins, and this can weaken the immune system. Some veterinarians--like Will Falconer, writing for the K911 website--believe that long-term use of these drugs can result in arthritis, liver and kidney disease, and other degenerative disorders.
 
The following was copied from Dr Jeffrey Levy's website. He is a veterinarian that practices wholistic and alternative homeopathic therapies:


This parasite is a source of great anxiety among dog caretakers. (I don't believe that one "owns" a dog.) Thanks in large part to the scare tactics of many veterinarians in promoting preventive drugs, many people believe that contracting heartworms is the equivalent of a death sentence for their dogs. This is not true.


I practiced for seven years in the Santa Cruz, California area, and treated many dogs with heartworms. The only dogs that developed symptoms of heart failure were those that were being vaccinated yearly, eating commercial dog food, and getting suppressive drug treatment for other symptoms, such as skin problems. My treatment, at that time, consisted of switching to a natural (that is, homemade) diet, stopping drug treatment whenever possible, and eliminating any chemical exposure, such as flea and tick poisons. I would usually prescribe hawthorn tincture as well. None of these dogs ever developed any symptoms of heart failure.


I concluded from this that it was not the heartworms that caused disease, but the other factors that damaged the dogs' health to the point that they could no longer compensate for an otherwise tolerable parasite load. It is not really that different from the common intestinal roundworms, in that most dogs do not show any symptoms. Only a dog whose health is compromised is unable to tolerate a few worms. Furthermore, a truly healthy dog would not be susceptible to either type of worm in the first place.

It seems to me that the real problem is that allopathic attitudes have instilled in many of us a fear of disease, fear of pathogens and parasites, fear of rabies, as if these are evil and malicious entities just waiting to lay waste to a naive and unprotected public.



Disease is not caused by viruses or by bacteria or by heartworm-bearing mosquitoes. Disease comes from within, and one aspect of disease can be the susceptibility to various pathogens. So the best thing to do is to address those susceptibilities on the deepest possible level, so that the pathogens will no longer be a threat. Most importantly, don't buy into the fear.



That having been said, there are practical considerations of risk versus benefit in considering heartworm prevention. The risk of a dog contracting heartworms is directly related to geographic location. In heavily infested areas the risk is higher, and the prospect of using a preventive drug more justifiable. Whatever you choose to do, a yearly blood test for heartworm microfilaria is important.



There are basically three choices with regard to heartworm prevention: drugs, nosodes, or nothing.



There are currently a variety of heartworm preventive drugs, most of which are given monthly. I don't like any of them due to their toxicity, the frequency of side effects, and their tendency to antidote homeopathic remedies. Incidentally, the once-a-month preventives should be given only every 6 weeks.



The next option is the heartworm nosode. It has the advantage of at least not being a toxic drug. It has been in use it for over 10 years now, and I am reasonably confident that it is effective. It is certainly very safe. The biggest problem with the nosode is integrating it with homeopathic treatment. But at least it's less of a problem than with the drugs.



The last option, and in my opinion the best, is to do nothing. That is to say, do nothing to specifically prevent heartworm, but rather to minimize the chances of infestation by helping your dog to be healthier, and thereby less susceptible. This means avoiding those things that are detrimental to health, feeding a high quality homemade diet, regular exercise, a healthy emotional environment, and, most of all, constitutional homeopathic treatment. Of course, this will not guarantee that your dog will not get heartworms, but, under these conditions, even the worst-case scenario isn't so terrible. If your dog were to get heartworms, s/he shouldn't develop any symptoms as a result.



For what it's worth, I never gave my dog any type of heartworm preventive, even when we lived in the Santa Cruz area where heartworms were very prevalent. I tested him yearly, and he never had a problem.



 
Date: 8/2/2009 12:36:01 PM
Author: Richard Sherwood

The following was copied from Dr Jeffrey Levy''s website. He is a veterinarian that practices wholistic and alternative homeopathic therapies:


This parasite is a source of great anxiety among dog caretakers. (I don''t believe that one ''owns'' a dog.) Thanks in large part to the scare tactics of many veterinarians in promoting preventive drugs, many people believe that contracting heartworms is the equivalent of a death sentence for their dogs. This is not true.


I practiced for seven years in the Santa Cruz, California area, and treated many dogs with heartworms. The only dogs that developed symptoms of heart failure were those that were being vaccinated yearly, eating commercial dog food, and getting suppressive drug treatment for other symptoms, such as skin problems. My treatment, at that time, consisted of switching to a natural (that is, homemade) diet, stopping drug treatment whenever possible, and eliminating any chemical exposure, such as flea and tick poisons. I would usually prescribe hawthorn tincture as well. None of these dogs ever developed any symptoms of heart failure.


I concluded from this that it was not the heartworms that caused disease, but the other factors that damaged the dogs'' health to the point that they could no longer compensate for an otherwise tolerable parasite load. It is not really that different from the common intestinal roundworms, in that most dogs do not show any symptoms. Only a dog whose health is compromised is unable to tolerate a few worms. Furthermore, a truly healthy dog would not be susceptible to either type of worm in the first place.


It seems to me that the real problem is that allopathic attitudes have instilled in many of us a fear of disease, fear of pathogens and parasites, fear of rabies, as if these are evil and malicious entities just waiting to lay waste to a naive and unprotected public.




Disease is not caused by viruses or by bacteria or by heartworm-bearing mosquitoes. Disease comes from within, and one aspect of disease can be the susceptibility to various pathogens. So the best thing to do is to address those susceptibilities on the deepest possible level, so that the pathogens will no longer be a threat. Most importantly, don''t buy into the fear.




That having been said, there are practical considerations of risk versus benefit in considering heartworm prevention. The risk of a dog contracting heartworms is directly related to geographic location. In heavily infested areas the risk is higher, and the prospect of using a preventive drug more justifiable. Whatever you choose to do, a yearly blood test for heartworm microfilaria is important.




There are basically three choices with regard to heartworm prevention: drugs, nosodes, or nothing.




There are currently a variety of heartworm preventive drugs, most of which are given monthly. I don''t like any of them due to their toxicity, the frequency of side effects, and their tendency to antidote homeopathic remedies. Incidentally, the once-a-month preventives should be given only every 6 weeks.




The next option is the heartworm nosode. It has the advantage of at least not being a toxic drug. It has been in use it for over 10 years now, and I am reasonably confident that it is effective. It is certainly very safe. The biggest problem with the nosode is integrating it with homeopathic treatment. But at least it''s less of a problem than with the drugs.




The last option, and in my opinion the best, is to do nothing. That is to say, do nothing to specifically prevent heartworm, but rather to minimize the chances of infestation by helping your dog to be healthier, and thereby less susceptible. This means avoiding those things that are detrimental to health, feeding a high quality homemade diet, regular exercise, a healthy emotional environment, and, most of all, constitutional homeopathic treatment. Of course, this will not guarantee that your dog will not get heartworms, but, under these conditions, even the worst-case scenario isn''t so terrible. If your dog were to get heartworms, s/he shouldn''t develop any symptoms as a result.




For what it''s worth, I never gave my dog any type of heartworm preventive, even when we lived in the Santa Cruz area where heartworms were very prevalent. I tested him yearly, and he never had a problem.




Rich, thank you for posting this! Honestly, people buy into these things because of very powerful marketing designed to induce guilt in people if they don''t buy. While I realize there are lifesaving drugs out there, I do not trust the phamaceutical industry as a whole! I read years ago that it was highy questionable to give pets yearly vaccinations. You really have to weigh whether the drugs and vaccines cause more harm than good. Tough decisions. (Oh, and this really applies to people pharmaceuticals as well.)
 
Date: 8/2/2009 3:51:09 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006

Rich, thank you for posting this! Honestly, people buy into these things because of very powerful marketing designed to induce guilt in people if they don''t buy. While I realize there are lifesaving drugs out there, I do not trust the phamaceutical industry as a whole! I read years ago that it was highy questionable to give pets yearly vaccinations. You really have to weigh whether the drugs and vaccines cause more harm than good. Tough decisions. (Oh, and this really applies to people pharmaceuticals as well.)
Yes, it''s a huge multi-billion dollar industry, fueled by fear.
 
Date: 8/2/2009 4:26:23 PM
Author: Richard Sherwood

Date: 8/2/2009 3:51:09 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006

Rich, thank you for posting this! Honestly, people buy into these things because of very powerful marketing designed to induce guilt in people if they don''t buy. While I realize there are lifesaving drugs out there, I do not trust the phamaceutical industry as a whole! I read years ago that it was highy questionable to give pets yearly vaccinations. You really have to weigh whether the drugs and vaccines cause more harm than good. Tough decisions. (Oh, and this really applies to people pharmaceuticals as well.)
Yes, it''s a huge multi-billion dollar industry, fueled by fear.
I agree with this. Over the years our thinking has changed about the use of vaccines and preventative heartworm treatments. When we adopted out Chihuahua this year, for the first time ever we found that we had a dog that was prone to severe allergic reaction to certain vaccines. So, we decided less is more for her too. Our vet always recommends maximum preventative measures for everything and we just don''t agree. We''ve never treated our dogs for fleas, and none of the 3 have ever had fleas. We take it as it goes. So far we have 2 very healthy oldtimers, 11 and 13, and one fiesty but sensitive 1 year old.
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I am also of the belief that if you have a very well bred dog, health issues will be kept to a minimum.
 
Ours are on Revolution, which also prevents fleas/ticks. It''s not much more than the flea/tick prevention alone, and it''s worth the cost to know they''re protected from the harm and pain that comes with heartworms.
 
Lyra,

Our chi is also very prone to getting ill after shots (has to be given benadryl prior to shots to help reduce swelling and things of that nature). We only do the minimal shots with him, as we feel like since he''s home and not borded and not taken to dog parks or anything like that, he''s not as likely to get several of the illnesses the vaccines are made to prevent.

That said, our baby chi is very, very allergic to fleas (gets red welts from picking/scratching at them), so we do just go ahead and do the two in one with the flea/heartworm medication monthly.

Gotta love little sensitive puppies, don''t you?
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Arghhhh!
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People like this makes me so freakin mad!!! I have two fairly large labs (35 kg and 45kg) and it costs around $70 AU per dog to keep them protected for the whole year. If you can''t spend this money, you shouldn''t have a freakin dog!!!!

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On the same topic, heartworm is very dangerous for dogs. You can get tablets from the supermarket to give them every month if you don''t want to give them a yearly injection, but if you forget to give them on time, the dog can get heartworm. Then if you go and give them a late dose, it will lyse (break apart and bust open) the worms in the doggies heart and it will clog their hearts and they die from a heart attack. So terribly cruel and inhumane!

Owners should be forced to look after their doggies, or lose them! They have rights and feelings too!!!!
 
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