Does talking ''diamonds'' with others (IRL, of course ;) ever make you feel...

[Bia]

Pretentious?


Just out of curiosity.

I've noticed, since I've gotten engaged, that people just aren't that interested in the details. It's almost like opening a book just to look at the pictures, but to then go on and actually read the words...What the hell for???

For example: They get all excited about seeing my ring, give the "oohs and ahhhhs," but as soon as I start to answer their questions or address their comments (ex: what is it? how did FI know what to get? Where did he get it? It's so sparkly), I can literally see the glaze in their eyes forming. Once I got a little embarrassed after apparently (I say apparently b/c it didn't seem like I did this...very out of character for me) going off on a tangent about diamonds, that I bashfully said, "I love diamonds so I read up on them a lot." The response I got..."Yea, we can see that."

I think I've even seen one or two, "okay, yea whatever...get over yourself" looks from people. Just want to mention that some of these people are newly engaged as well!

So, is it just me, or are people (regular, non-amazing PSers) not that interested? Because if they aren't, I'll stop spreading my good, and very worthy, diamond knowledge.

Seriously!

 

[TravelingGal]

Date: 1/27/2009 11:41:23 PM
Author:Bia
Pretentious?


Just out of curiosity.

I''ve noticed, since I''ve gotten engaged, that people just aren''t that interested in the details. It''s almost like opening a book just to look at the pictures, but to then go on and actually read the words...What the hell for???

For example: They get all excited about seeing my ring, give the ''oohs and ahhhhs,'' but as soon as I start to answer their questions or address their comments (ex: what is it? how did FI know what to get? Where did he get it? It''s so sparkly), I can literally see the glaze in their eyes forming. Once I got a little embarrassed after apparently (I say apparently b/c it didn''t seem like I did this...very out of character for me) going off on a tangent about diamonds, that I bashfully said, ''I love diamonds so I read up on them a lot.'' The response I got...''Yea, we can see that.''

I think I''ve even seen one or two, ''okay, yea whatever...get over yourself'' looks from people. Just want to mention that some of these people are newly engaged as well!

So, is it just me, or are people (regular, non-amazing PSers) not that interested? Because if they aren''t, I''ll stop spreading my good, and very worthy, diamond knowledge.

Seriously!

People are generally not interested in subjects that they don''t care about. That''s normal. Diamonds, pets, car racing, whatever.

They probably think it''s pretentious because diamonds are considered a luxury item.

This is why I post on Pricescope. In real life NOBODY cares. Unless they are buying a diamond ring/earrings/whatever, and you know what? Even then, they still don''t care. They want big size for price. End of story.

I sent a pic of my pad to my friends who were interested in knowing if I had gotten the stone I wanted. They just said "Nice!" And I didn''t expect much more than that. It''s for *my* enjoyment that I know that it''s a special stone. It just didn''t wow them because they don''t get that the pad color is hard to find and it''s not a monster stone.

There''s a reason I''ve been on PS for years now...I want to keep my real life friends so I keep the diamond talk to this forum!!

 

[Bia]

TGal: I get what you're saying. What strikes me as odd is that most of these people (all women) DO seem interested in diamonds, in fact they love them (or say they do). I guess when I answer their questions, it seems as if they don't expect it? And then it turns out, they really aren't that interested LOL.

 

[Alexiszoe]

yea, i get the same thing too. most people don''t understand my love for diamonds, and i dare say some might dismiss me as frivolous for loving something so expensive.

and like what you said, some ladies seem to like diamonds, so for some of my girlfriends who have told me they are at the engagement ring shopping phase, I try to tell them a bit more so that i can persuade them to look online first instead of buying an expensive lousy mall stone. but they look at me like i am crazy to buy a diamond online, and would rather play it safe and get the bad mall stone at 100% mark up. oh well.

 

[BlueSki231]

yeaaaa.. i know what ya mean.

That''s why I''m on PS

But in reality I''ve got no one in real life to talk to about diamonds or jewelry - I''ve got a couple married and/or engaged friends and they don''t seem to know anything about their stones, or really care that much to know anything. So it''s not even really brought up.

It almost makes me feel shallow and materialistic so it''s my little secret obsession. (Well, the BF knows about it but that''s about it...)

 

[luckystar112]

I think what annoys me the most is when people ask you for advice on a diamond (cough...my mother...cough) and then completely ignore the advice.

 

[Catmom]

Yeah, I don''t really talk about it much in real life except with my hubby. He''s always game because he knows it''s my passion but everyone else, not so much. That''s exactly why I''m on PS so much. I don''t think it''s pretentious because I have the interest but I can understand how someone else might think that. It''s not an inexpensive love.

 

[Sizzle]

Truthfull I think people only notice the size and if it''s fairly eye clean. The average person is THRILLED with a solitarie from Kay Jewelers and APALLED when they find out people by diamonds from the ''net...unless of course it''s BLUENILE who most have heard of by now.

 

[neatfreak]

They are interested in them only because they sparkle and are pretty. Most people don't care about the details nor do they care to listen to a long diatribe about cut quality and vendors. Not anything about you though! They shouldn't ask if they don't care...I think people just expect to hear a one or two word answer when they ask questions about the ring.

 

[geckodani]

Date: 1/28/2009 12:56:28 AM
Author: luckystar112
I think what annoys me the most is when people ask you for advice on a diamond (cough...my mother...cough) and then completely ignore the advice.

LOL. Ditto that. Including the mother part.

I do have a few friends that ask me about jewelry stuff before purchasing, and I've helped a few get some nice stuff. And those are the real life folks I talk to about jewlery. Everyone else... well... I TRY not to wax poetic about diamonds.

ETA: But yeah, for the most part most people don't care. Every now and then the knowledge comes in handy to those that are receptive though. There's a couple at my husband's job that are looking to get engaged, and he actually told the guy to, "Talk to my wife. Seriously. She'll keep you from buying overpriced frozen spit."

 

[Clairitek]

Sometimes I feel pretentious when I talk to my friends about diamonds. Though, they do know that I am scientist and appreciate the science behind creating a sparkler out of rough... ya know... the optics n stuff.

At least that''s my excuse.

I have gotten a few glazed looks when I try to explain the cut of my diamond (8 main cushion) to people. Oh well.

 

[Italiahaircolor]

It depends on who I''m talking with...my best friend, mom, sister, aunt or grandma...no. But certain people, yes. I think it depends on if that person shares in your diamond interest...if it''s a common ground, then no...but if you''re talking about your ring to someone who honestly couldn''t care less, then it could come off in a poor way.

 

[Shoopy]

People in my life are not interested and because I get those looks, I tend to ''dumb'' my knowledge down a little. One coworker came to me with advice on stones that he had picked out. I just told him which one I thought was "prettier" I obviously chose the one that had the best characteristics but when I told him I just said "ooo you should pick that one, its soooo pretty"

 

[Kelli]

In my experience, no one cares. Which is disappointing to me because I've learned so much and love to talk about it, but yes, I do see peoples' eyes glaze over. And I've realized that when they ask questions, they don't usually even care to hear the answer. They also say my ring is just new and clean and that's why it's so sparkly. Whatever

. At least I have pricescope!

And pretentious? Only a few friends, who are mostly younger than I am. They act like my 1.35 ring is huge and think because I got it recut that I'm unsentimental about it, which is of course not true. I always find myself defending my ring size with the fact that my fiance and I have been together for almost nine years and waited until we could afford things to get engaged, so naturally I was able to spend a little more. I STILL was WELL under the two months salary mark!

 

[tlh]

Date: 1/28/2009 12:49:59 AM
Author: Namaste
yeaaaa.. i know what ya mean.

That's why I'm on PS

But in reality I've got no one in real life to talk to about diamonds or jewelry - I've got a couple married and/or engaged friends and they don't seem to know anything about their stones, or really care that much to know anything. So it's not even really brought up.

It almost makes me feel shallow and materialistic so it's my little secret obsession. (Well, the BF knows about it but that's about it...)

My DH knows about my obsession with beautiful things. Let me not like, backhanded compliment myself, but I am not someone who you'd look at and think, I am a diamond/gem enthusiast. (I am a football watching, beer drinking, girl who runs marathons, and is into fitness. I would be like the... "guy's" girl, not the "girlie" girl.) HOWEVER, I love everything about pretties!! The color, the sparkle, the way a stone looks soo different in another setting... and just the little details..

Well one night we are out to dinner w/ my inlaws and my DH who was a little tipsy and didnt think anything of it, said, blows my modesty out of the water and was like "Then why do you spend all that time on your DIAMOND WEBSITE." and I kicked him under the table. It was like I was mildly embarrassed that he brought it up, cause PS is like my little dirty secret. I love looking at all the pretties, but I find myself in the social forums more often. The women here just GET ME. IRL I would be labelled as something other than a diamond/gem enthusiast... and I dont think it would be in a good way. (I just felt like he exposed a very private thing about me, to people that I am not that close to... even though they are his parents.)

But what is interesting to me... is that the only thing people IRL care about is SIZE. Umm... don't get me wrong, I LOVE EM BIG... but there is so much more that goes into a stone to get it to behave differently in lighting situations. But these same people might very well spend $5K for a 2ct ring from WALLYWORLD. Then I have met people who talk down about people with LARGE diamonds... what a waste of money, they could have bought a house. They only see the SIZE too. They don't understand that it is possible to spend JUST as much on a high quality smaller stone, as a poor quality larger stone... and a good quality larger stone would blow their minds! I guess I just feel free-er here to express my appreciation. Like the certain amount of aninimity makes me free to really ooo and aww over gems that people want that from. IRL that can make some people uncomfortable, ESP when you don't know them.

Ok I'm done!

 

[Dreamgirl]

I honestly think they just see sparkle and that's it...........

I'm sorry that is happening! So sad....

Some people just don't appreciate the quality of a good diamond. Which is why they shop at Zales.

The people I work with know how 'jewelry crazy/diamond crazy' I am but that's all it is...they think I'm crazy. My one co-worker has a 1.50ct princess cut ring that her husband gave her and she doesn't have a clue of the details. It looks a lot like a Tacori. I asked her if it was and she said: "What's a Tacori?"

So then I told her it should say on the inside of the band if it is a Tacori. She tells me she had no idea it would say

So she takes her ring off and looks at it to only then tell me it was custom made.....

She goes on and on about how her husband went to all this trouble to get it....but then she knows NOTHING??? I can tell it IS a good stone with good light return but she has NO clue at all about it....uuug that woman. I should steal that thing off her finger (BIA

hehe

) and wear it myself...lol

I think that's part of the reason I joined PS. A place where people actually care about diamonds and gemstones

Although, sometimes I avoid the SMTR area because it makes me want a diamond so badly.......lol

 

[Bia]

I don''t know if it''s me being paranoid or what, but I have definitely realized that any and all diamond convos will have to be had on PS. Some people just look at you like you''re full of crap. And here I am thinking, "It''s my passion people!"

 

[Dreamgirl]

lol! I hear you on that one. At least there is SOMEWHERE to talk about it where people appreciate it

ETA* Bia- You can tell me all about your diamond over and over again and I'll read...

 

[Bia]

Date: 1/28/2009 11:03:04 AM
Author: Dreamgirl
I honestly think they just see sparkle and that''s it...........

I''m sorry that is happening! So sad....

Some people just don''t appreciate the quality of a good diamond. Which is why they shop at Zales.

The people I work with know how ''jewelry crazy/diamond crazy'' I am but that''s all it is...they think I''m crazy. My one co-worker has a 1.50ct princess cut ring that her husband gave her and she doesn''t have a clue of the details. It looks a lot like a Tacori. I asked her if it was and she said: ''What''s a Tacori?''

So then I told her it should say on the inside of the band if it is a Tacori. She tells me she had no idea it would say

So she takes her ring off and looks at it to only then tell me it was custom made.....

She goes on and on about how her husband went to all this trouble to get it....but then she knows NOTHING??? I can tell it IS a good stone with good light return but she has NO clue at all about it....uuug that woman. I should steal that thing off her finger (BIA

hehe

) and wear it myself...lol

I think that''s part of the reason I joined PS. A place where people actually care about diamonds and gemstones

Although, sometimes I avoid the SMTR area because it makes me want a diamond so badly.......lol

You know Dream, it might just be that I have an e-ring of my own now, so I''m thinking about it more. I mean I have diamond earrings that my FI gave me years ago (and a few other diamond sparklies, nothing major), but the quality just isn''t the same--neither of us knew squat back then. So now I have a quality diamond of my own to look at all the time, and when others notice, they ask questions. In the moment it feels like an invitation to talk about my diamond, and if anything, they can learn something too. But it goes on deaf ears it seems

I did get some nice validation from two of my new classmates though--they were very interested! They''re both new to our cohort so I don''t know them well yet, but they knew a lot about diamonds and gemstones. We went out to lunch and they commented on how much my ring sparkled under that specific lighting (I just relished!). They also gave my FI props, which I then told FI about and he cracked up! One of the guys even told me he''s an event planner on the side. He said, "Honey, don''t worry, I''ve planned a few weddings in my time!" So I linked arms with him and said, "Good because I''m clueless. You''re my new best friend btw!"

 

[lyra]

Well, I've found it sometimes works out for the worst, having that large knowledge base. An acquaintance knew of my diamond knowledge and he asked me to critique the ER he just bought. I was lost for words trying not to offend him, but urging him to please get an appraisal (he didn't at the time), and to maybe seek a refund (he didn't do that either), because the diamond was so obviously bad. I was tactful, saying the colour was not right, the clarity was not right, etc. Flash forward 6 months, he's married, his wife takes the ring to a jeweler to look at for some reason, and she is told the stone is barely worth $800 (he paid $3000), and not to bother resetting it or whatnot. So then of course the you know what hit the fan at home and hubby is sent out to buy another *better* stone. Then he blames me somehow for not warning him MORE!! How awkward!

Oh, and yes, he made me feel totally pretentious when I was analyzing his first stone! Now I just keep my mouth shut.

 

[Bia]

Date: 1/28/2009 11:34:24 AM
Author: lyra
Well, I've found it sometimes works out for the worst, having that large knowledge base. An acquaintance knew of my diamond knowledge and he asked me to critique the ER he just bought. I was lost for words trying not to offend him, but urging him to please get an appraisal (he didn't at the time), and to maybe seek a refund (he didn't do that either), because the diamond was so obviously bad. I was tactful, saying the colour was not right, the clarity was not right, etc. Flash forward 6 months, he's married, his wife takes the ring to a jeweler to look at for some reason, and she is told the stone is barely worth $800 (he paid $3000), and not to bother resetting it or whatnot. So then of course the you know what hit the fan at home and hubby is sent out to buy another *better* stone. Then he blames me somehow for not warning him MORE!! How awkward!

Yikes! That is awkward (BUT you told him so!!!

).

I think with some of us, it's taking pride in your ring. Most of us here are all about quality (quantity is great too if you can afford both!) so when we see a beautiful stone, we want to look and learn more, because we know a great quality stone will shine through, no matter the size. But it really is about our own interest (even obsession) and I guess some of us might have to learn (the hard way, since I'm a newbie still) that most people just don't care as much as we do. Their loss!

 

[Dreamgirl]

Date: 1/28/2009 11:32:48 AM
Author: Bia
You know Dream, it might just be that I have an e-ring of my own now, so I'm thinking about it more. I mean I have diamond earrings that my FI gave me years ago (and a few other diamond sparklies, nothing major), but the quality just isn't the same--neither of us knew squat back then. So now I have a quality diamond of my own to look at all the time, and when others notice, they ask questions. In the moment it feels like an invitation to talk about my diamond, and if anything, they can learn something too. But it goes on deaf ears it seems

I did get some nice validation from two of my new classmates though--they were very interested! They're both new to our cohort so I don't know them well yet, but they knew a lot about diamonds and gemstones. We went out to lunch and they commented on how much my ring sparkled under that specific lighting (I just relished!). They also gave my FI props, which I then told FI about and he cracked up! One of the guys even told me he's an event planner on the side. He said, 'Honey, don't worry, I've planned a few weddings in my time!' So I linked arms with him and said, 'Good because I'm clueless. You're my new best friend btw!'

Oh I hear you on the old diamonds thing....S has gotten 3 diamond videos for us to watch from the Library. I'm glad he is 'educating' himself. I think it's like a secret closet diamond education he has going on right now. But hey, it works for me!

I don't have any diamond earrings (something I've always wanted) but I do however have a couple of rings he gave me with teeny little diamonds in them. Of course, I see all the flaws and what not to them. But, we were young then and that's my excuse too! We were only teenagers!! Anyway, after watching the last diamond video, he took my promise ring and held it up to the light, "Oh...this thing is so dark- grey and cloudy..."

Glad you noticed

then he said "It doesn't look at all like the ones we looked at in Tiffany"

YAAAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (as we both remember my tiny diamond next to the color of a higher quality diamond...)

 

[Rhea]

I feel very stuck up when discussing them in real life. My mother and sister love jewellery almost as much as I do, but no one else actually cares. I have a few aunts that wear pretty pieces, but only ever discuss them in a very casual "this is from my husband for our anniversary way".

I''ve stopped trying to discuss it with people, I think they were just getting scared of me. I sometimes got the comment that I must be expensive to keep, directed at my husband in front of me.

 

[Miranda]

Nope. I never feel pretentious. I do have the same experiences as you do, though. People ask questions and then they glaze over, their head tips to the side and they start to drool. And that''s the polite people. The rude ones (like my sister) just start talking about something else that interests them.

It''s not like I sit around talking about jewelery or gemstones with friends, either. Very few know how interested I am. I only answer questions when asked. I do think there is a general disinterest in quality jewelry.

 

[Blackpaw]

I do unfortunately and it makes me feel guilty

i used to work in a jewellery store, before i found pricescope, and so was always pretty interested in diamonds. Im a ways away from getting an ering myself but i know it''ll only be Pricescopers that will appreciate it

Oh and im feeling really bad lately because i realise that a friend of SOs and mine who just got engaged didnt really want to tell me what her ring looks like.... Im not 100% sure why but im worried its because she thinks im a jewellery snob - and that im not (well I am for me, but not for others

)

 

[Lurchie]

Yes. Big time. DH and I call it my "secret shame." My BFF also knows, and that''s it. Most of my friends are very frugal, and so am I, so they would see it as completely out of character if they knew. The way I see it is that diamonds are a luxury, and so is PS. It''s where I come to escape. It''s like a spa for my brain! And yes also to people not being interested. A friend of a friend got engaged recently and was showing her ring to people at a party. She was trying to describe its features and I kept jumping in with the correct terminology ("pave, "Euroshank, etc). People were mostly impressed but it made me kind of embarassed. Nonetheless, I couldn''t keep my mouth shut!

 

[Bia]

Date: 1/28/2009 1:43:53 PM
Author: Lurchie

Yes. Big time. DH and I call it my ''secret shame.'' My BFF also knows, and that''s it. Most of my friends are very frugal, and so am I, so they would see it as completely out of character if they knew. The way I see it is that diamonds are a luxury, and so is PS. It''s where I come to escape. It''s like a spa for my brain! And yes also to people not being interested. A friend of a friend got engaged recently and was showing her ring to people at a party. She was trying to describe its features and I kept jumping in with the correct terminology (''pave, ''Euroshank, etc). People were mostly impressed but it made me kind of embarassed. Nonetheless, I couldn''t keep my mouth shut!

Exactly. You want to talk ''diamonds,'' because you know and love jewelry, and then the embarrassment sets in--even when you didn''t do anything wrong.

LOL

 

[trillionaire]

Date: 1/28/2009 12:02:08 AM
Author: Bia
TGal: I get what you're saying. What strikes me as odd is that most of these people (all women) DO seem interested in diamonds, in fact they love them (or say they do). I guess when I answer their questions, it seems as if they don't expect it? And then it turns out, they really aren't that interested LOL.

The problem with Maul Jewelry stores is that they create the impression that all diamonds are created equal. Women are excited about diamonds generally, but when it comes down to it, they are excited that they have a pretty bauble, not the details.

I love seeing the rings in PS. I don't really care about the details.

I'm not a perfectionist, but if you have a cool ring and it's eye clean, YAY!!! Great!

I actually don't notice rings IRL.

If I do, I categorize them as 'nice', 'stunning' or 'not my type'. I also don't ask about people's rings, because I really don't care for details. I think a lot of people ask to make conversation, or be polite. However, PSers will love to hear you go on allllllll day.

I'll just stay off of the detail heavy threads

ETA: To me, PS is a fun forum with lovely people, and like Consumer Reports for jewelry. I want to get a good quality fair priced item, but I don't want to hear the details about everyone else's car, just because I researched mine. *shrugs* I'm a rare breed...

 

[Bia]

Date: 1/28/2009 3:21:16 PM
Author: trillionaire

Date: 1/28/2009 12:02:08 AM
Author: Bia
TGal: I get what you're saying. What strikes me as odd is that most of these people (all women) DO seem interested in diamonds, in fact they love them (or say they do). I guess when I answer their questions, it seems as if they don't expect it? And then it turns out, they really aren't that interested LOL.

The problem with Maul Jewelry stores is that they create the impression that all diamonds are created equal. Women are excited about diamonds generally, but when it comes down to it, they are excited that they have a pretty bauble, not the details.

I love seeing the rings in PS. I don't really care about the details.

I'm not a perfectionist, but if you have a cool ring and it's eye clean, YAY!!! Great!

I actually don't notice rings IRL.

If I do, I categorize them as 'nice', 'stunning' or 'not my type'. I also don't ask about people's rings, because I really don't care for details. I think a lot of people ask to make conversation, or be polite. However, PSers will love to hear you go on allllllll day.

I'll just stay off of the detail heavy threads

Hey Trill!

Yea, I get what you're saying. Believe me when I tell you, I am not a "Look at my ring people!!! Now lets talk about it!" kind of girl. In fact, I'm quite the opposite. It is refreshing though, when people ask questions about it. The lost conversations I mentioned earlier have been had with people who sound genuinely interested in my ring, or their own rings, or others e-rings. What happens is that when I start to talk about it, using terminology (I think Lurchie said it best) that I learned here really, it's like they don't expect you to know so much, and then they don't really want to engage you in the conversation, or they lose interest. That's when the glaze sets in.

I, like you, love diamonds. Not just perfectly cut ones, or big ones, or white ones...I love them ALL (well most

). I love what they represent for people. There are so many stones that, whether or not they're of "good quality," still shine, and are still beautiful, ya know?


ETA: I just wanted to add that I think girls who ARE like "Look at my ring people!!! Now let's talk about it!" are awesome too! It is so much fun getting your engagement ring, and I think showing how excited you are should be allowed, even to the point of irritation! That's just not my personality...

 

[trillionaire]

Date: 1/28/2009 3:29:34 PM
Author: Bia

Date: 1/28/2009 3:21:16 PM

Author: trillionaire

Date: 1/28/2009 12:02:08 AM

Author: Bia

TGal: I get what you''re saying. What strikes me as odd is that most of these people (all women) DO seem interested in diamonds, in fact they love them (or say they do). I guess when I answer their questions, it seems as if they don''t expect it? And then it turns out, they really aren''t that interested LOL.

The problem with Maul Jewelry stores is that they create the impression that all diamonds are created equal. Women are excited about diamonds generally, but when it comes down to it, they are excited that they have a pretty bauble, not the details.


I love seeing the rings in PS. I don''t really care about the details.

I''m not a perfectionist, but if you have a cool ring and it''s eye clean, YAY!!! Great!


I actually don''t notice rings IRL.

If I do, I categorize them as ''nice'', ''stunning'' or ''not my type''. I also don''t ask about people''s rings, because I really don''t care for details. I think a lot of people ask to make conversation, or be polite. However, PSers will love to hear you go on allllllll day.

I''ll just stay off of the detail heavy threads

Hey Trill!


Yea, I get what you''re saying. Believe me when I tell you, I am not a ''Look at my ring people!!! Now lets talk about it!'' kind of girl. In fact, I''m quite the opposite. It is refreshing though, when people ask questions about it. The lost conversations I mentioned earlier have been had with people who sound genuinely interested in my ring, or their own rings, or others e-rings. What happens is that when I start to talk about it, using terminology (I think Lurchie said it best) that I learned here really, it''s like they don''t expect you to know so much, and then they don''t really want to engage you in the conversation, or they lose interest. That''s when the glaze sets in.


I, like you, love diamonds. Not just perfectly cut ones, or big ones, or white ones...I love them ALL (well most

). I love what they represent for people. There are so many stones that, whether or not they''re of ''good quality,'' still shine, and are still beautiful, ya know?

LOL, my mom has a piece of frozen spit horrible thing that STILL throws off fire! I was amazed! She also has some heirloom pieces that I am planning to steal. Fortunately my sister and I have different tastes, so she can have the eternity bands and I will take the solitaires

I don''t think you sounded pretentious at all in your post, just excited. I know I talk about my dog way too much, and people get that glazed over look.

(how dare they! lol) It''s okay though, we still love you here! As a matter of fact, I am going to go to SMTR right now and view some eye candy! Hurray!