Do you think gay men here help or hurt the diamond industry

[kenny]

Re: Do you think gay men here help or hurt the diamond indus

The only thing I can't tolerate is intolerance.

Sure, pointing it out IS a paradox, but hey, don't shoot the messenger.
Or do.

 

[Tacori E-ring]

Re: Do you think gay men here help or hurt the diamond indus

Actually when I think of men wearing diamonds I think of rappers. I am sure they are very helpful for the economy and the diamond industry.

I read that 67.5% of men wearing diamonds are affiliated with the maffia, 17.9% are in the music industry, 2.5% are gay, and the rest are straight men.

Oh! I didn't even think of the maffia but that makes sense.

 

[ksinger]

Re: Do you think gay men here help or hurt the diamond indus

I am certain that my being a gay gemstone nut does NOT hurt, but HELPS the gemstone industry. I am friends with 99.9% straight guys here in NM, and they really like seeing my new gems They also come to me when they are looking for something for their wives, and MANY times for themselves. The guys here especially like my turquoise matched with yellow gold. So, in short, I think my buying, sharing and wearing gemstones brings more interest... And my knowledge brings smarter people to jewelry stores where they can raise questions to local jewelers that have never been raised before... treatments, certification, etc.

And forgive me... but I lean toward agreement with Holly

If you search for insults, disagreements, and intolerance... you will find it EVERYWHERE... This question is BEGGING for a negative response... I live in a world where being gay is supposed to be completely unacceptable... and yet I have NEVER had a problem... Joking about my sexuality is how the guys deal with it... If I took offense to everything they said I'd be one lonely person.

Thank you Soberguy. Seriously. You sound like a person who is extremely confortable with who he is, and is also comfortable for others to be around.

 

[VRBeauty]

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[Dancing Fire]

Re: Do you think gay men here help or hurt the diamond indus

Actually when I think of men wearing diamonds I think of rappers. I am sure they are very helpful for the economy and the diamond industry.

I read that 67.5% of men wearing diamonds are affiliated with the maffia, 17.9% are in the music industry, 2.5% are gay, and the rest are straight men.

Now you're starting to sound like Dancing Fire, MC!

but mine are accurate..

 

[Gothgrrl]

Re: Do you think gay men here help or hurt the diamond indus

I say neither. People are going to wear diamonds because they like them. Period. Doesn't matter the orientation. That's how I see it.

 

[Arkteia]

Re: Do you think gay men here help or hurt the diamond indus

I do not think it will have any effect, which is sad because I'd love to see diamond sales go up!

However... When I was back in my home country (where people are extremely fashion-conscious), I saw many very macho men wearing pink neckties and shirts. My very, very straight relative told me that the statement behind the style was, "I am so macho, I am not afraid of wearing gay colors, because I look like Antonio Banderas irregardless of what I wear". I can not, really, comment on it, it was a total hearsay, but I have noticed that men sweaters and cardigans have become brighter and sunnier.

The reason of me mentioning it, if straight men follow gay men in their fashion (which seems to be the trend), then hopefully, we shall see more diamonds on men in a couple of years...

Kenny, I just wanted to mention that you have always been so kind, nice and supportive, and I thank you for all your help. I LOVE your presence at CS!

 

[Imdanny]

Re: Do you think gay men here help or hurt the diamond indus

Kenny, you're gay? I didn't know that.

 

[kenny]

Re: Do you think gay men here help or hurt the diamond indus

Well, sometimes after getting a tongue-lashing from the usual suspects here I'm not feeling too gay.
Why that hail did they pick that word, gay, anyway?

Thanks Crasru.

 

[iLander]

Re: Do you think gay men here help or hurt the diamond indus

Further proof that PS is closely read by people in the industry, a story from the Leibish about men and FCD's.

Just out in their latest newsletter:

http://www.fancydiamonds.net/diamond_education/investing_in_color_diamonds/what_is_good_for_the_gander_is_now_good_for_the_goose.htm

I think they're saying that men, both gay and straight, are getting into FCD's.

 

[MichelleCarmen]

Re: Do you think gay men here help or hurt the diamond indus

Actually when I think of men wearing diamonds I think of rappers. I am sure they are very helpful for the economy and the diamond industry.

I read that 67.5% of men wearing diamonds are affiliated with the maffia, 17.9% are in the music industry, 2.5% are gay, and the rest are straight men.

Now you're starting to sound like Dancing Fire, MC!

but mine are accurate..

Hey, I got sources! I've watched the Supranos. Also, my fish. I ask them a question and if they swim to the right, the answer is yes, and if they swim to the left, it's a no.

 

[MichelleCarmen]

Re: Do you think gay men here help or hurt the diamond indus

Actually when I think of men wearing diamonds I think of rappers. I am sure they are very helpful for the economy and the diamond industry.

I read that 67.5% of men wearing diamonds are affiliated with the maffia, 17.9% are in the music industry, 2.5% are gay, and the rest are straight men.

Oh! I didn't even think of the maffia but that makes sense.

Tacori - I forgot about athletes in my poll. We'll just lump them in with the maffia since most sports involve some form of gambling. lol

 

[katamari]

Re: Do you think gay men here help or hurt the diamond indus

If anyone would react to gay men wearing diamonds, it would be homophobia that hurts the industry and not any individual.

I don't mind your posts, Kenny. I enjoy everyone who starts a lot of posts on PS, because they keep us talking. I also like to talk about social issues, so I generally read and respond. I will say, though, that if you want to talk about inequalities, you could frame your questions that way. Asking questions about specific hot button topics might get knee-jerk reactions, but I am not sure they foster the discussions you want. Like Haven, I also strongly believe it is fine, if not necessary, to question questions.

And, what if the answer is yes? (Which I really don't think it is, or if it is, see sentence 1). Should vendors refuse to sell to non-heteros and kowtow to homophobes?

 

[manderz]

Re: Do you think gay men here help or hurt the diamond indus

I can't even fathom personally why or how one person wearing diamonds would affect someone else choosing to wear diamonds, based solely on their sexual orientation.

What I CAN see affecting a person's passion for diamonds is seeing how much you love them, Kenny. It's very clear to me that you spend a lot of time and money getting exactly what you want, and educating yourself on the subject. I can see that you really love everything about what you're doing. THAT would be more likely to affect me than anything else about you as a person. I could completely despise some of your purchases, you could personally be a jerk in real life (NOT my opinion at all, just saying for the sake of my point) but the fact that we are both passionate about diamonds inspires me. I didn't do much research when I bought all of the diamonds I own. Some are not the best quality. Many are from mall stores, many are from ebay. I love them just the same, but how much you appreciate the science of it all makes me want to learn more about it. Who you choose to share your life with means nothing to me. I'm just glad you share a little bit of yourself here.

 

[jewelerman]

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Both straight and gay men have worn jewelry... as long as jewelry has been worn...and it will continue to be that way.I have worn,collected,sold and given jewelry as gifts to my girl friends since i was 12 years old and discovered that both girls and jewelry were the two best things in the world(not to mention rock&roll ).Ive never been asked if i was gay because i wore jewelry-even when i wore more then most women..(.but hey it was the 1970s and 80s...)I have both straight and gay clients.

 

[jstarfireb]

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I think gay men buying diamonds simply means more people buying diamonds, so it can only help! Heck, I wish more men (gay, straight, whatever) wore diamonds. I wanted to get my husband a tension-set diamond in a titanium band for his wedding ring, but he poo-poo'd the idea.

Although if you're talking about gay men on PS as opposed to in general, then it's probably neutral, as there are numerically so few that it probably doesn't make a difference.

 

[Deia]

Re: Do you think gay men here help or hurt the diamond indus

I just can't see how the sexual orientation of PSers has any affect on the Diamond Industry... it's not like 100% of straight men refuse to wear diamond jewelry... it's a cultural thing and that's it imo.

Like some of the posters above, I don't get the inclination in asking this question either and frankly I kind of agree with the person who found this question to be quite daft / a moot point. No offense intended.

 

[AGBF]

Re: Do you think gay men here help or hurt the diamond indus

I just can't see how the sexual orientation of PSers has any affect on the Diamond Industry... it's not like 100% of straight men refuse to wear diamond jewelry... it's a cultural thing and that's it imo.

Like some of the posters above, I don't get the inclination in asking this question either and frankly I kind of agree with the person who found this question to be quite daft / a moot point. No offense intended.

Deia-Are you from the UK or one of the countries colonized by England? Your use of the word, "daft" made me perk up my ears.

Deb


Diamonds Are A Girl's Best Friend

 

[Deia]

Re: Do you think gay men here help or hurt the diamond indus

AGBF - I live in London and some of the vocabulary used here has made it's way into mine I still have my american accent though, not giving that up just yet!

It means silly in this context by the way if I've confused anyone!

 

[Sizzle]

Re: Do you think gay men here help or hurt the diamond indus

I actually dont think that the average diamond consumer has even heard of pricescope. Those who do generally come here for a specific purpose and I doubt the sexual orientation of other consumers means squat. I do think if pricescope has ANY affect on the industry, it would be for people to purchase online and be more aware of cut. I was surprised to see how this question morphed. I recall a discussion bashing "Rapper bling bling" and how it brought negativity and oversaturation to the industry (not sure if that was on this site or another). No one had any problem weighing in and ripping apart monster chains, gold and diamond grills and other hip hop jewelry artistry. I think there are many straight men that think diamonds are for woman and gay men.. I've heard them say so. They are entitled to their opinion. I wouldn't want my husband to develop a love for collecting larger diamonds for himself. The diamond budget needs to be focused solely on me! That being said he has a .75CTTW .. he's recently started wearing the plain band alternate ring I got him.

 

[decodelighted]

Re: Do you think gay men here help or hurt the diamond indus

Actually when I think of men wearing diamonds I think of rappers. I am sure they are very helpful for the economy and the diamond industry.

I read that 67.5% of men wearing diamonds are affiliated with the maffia, 17.9% are in the music industry, 2.5% are gay, and the rest are straight men.

Oh! I didn't even think of the maffia but that makes sense.

Now "raffia" seems so sinister to me.

 

[dragonfly411]

Re: Do you think gay men here help or hurt the diamond indus

Well, sometimes after getting a tongue-lashing from the usual suspects here I'm not feeling too gay.
Why that hail did they pick that word, gay, anyway?

Thanks Crasru.

Because gay men are gay? I truly mean this. Gay men are some of the happiest creatures I've ever encountered. EVER. They are always bright, look at it as glass half full, outgoing, cheery, social, and intelligent. At least that's the experience I've had.

 

[decodelighted]

Re: Do you think gay men here help or hurt the diamond indus

Well, sometimes after getting a tongue-lashing from the usual suspects here I'm not feeling too gay.
Why that hail did they pick that word, gay, anyway?
Thanks Crasru.

Because gay men are gay? I truly mean this. Gay men are some of the happiest creatures I've ever encountered. EVER. They are always bright, look at it as glass half full, outgoing, cheery, social, and intelligent. At least that's the experience I've had.

Um ... uh ... "creatures"? Really? Plus: Holy stereotyping, Batman. I'm picturing some kind of kooky, rainbow PETTING ZOO from your description.

 

[john gem]

Re: Do you think gay men here help or hurt the diamond indus

Who ever said diamonds=feminity? Ever single rap star has and wears diamonds. Most of those in music do. Almost all basketball and football players waer diamond studs or have jewelry. Even the superbowl ring has diamonds on it. You can't get much more manly than that.

 

[HollyS]

Re: Do you think gay men here help or hurt the diamond indus

Kenny, at the risk of insulting you further, I stand by what I said.

And if you were as 'intelligent' as you want me to believe that you are, and I DO believe that you are, you would have understood this response to be about the question as it relates to Pricescope.

No one here has given you any pause (to my knowledge) that should lead you to believe that any of us would have a definite basis for believing that gay men buying diamonds, gems, or involving themselves in a forum about diamonds, is in any way BAD for the industry.

I believe that you are not interested so much in opinions, as you are in seeing if you can stir something up. The only thing you found to stir up was my comment, which you chose to find personally insulting. Well, guess what? I found your question insulting. And I think everyone here should have found it equally obnoxious.

Get over being gay. It shouldn't define your every waking moment. My being heterosexual doesn't make me think only in terms of my sexual preference on every issue, every topic, in every moment of my day. Stop throwing up your gayness as a yardstick by which you measure the rest of us.

Now chew on that.

 

[kenny]

Re: Do you think gay men here help or hurt the diamond indus

Kenny, at the risk of insulting you further, I stand by what I said.

And if you were as 'intelligent' as you want me to believe that you are, and I DO believe that you are, you would have understood this response to be about the question as it relates to Pricescope.

No one here has given you any pause (to my knowledge) that should lead you to believe that any of us would have a definite basis for believing that gay men buying diamonds, gems, or involving themselves in a forum about diamonds, is in any way BAD for the industry.

I believe that you are not interested so much in opinions, as you are in seeing if you can stir something up. The only thing you found to stir up was my comment, which you chose to find personally insulting. Well, guess what? I found your question insulting. And I think everyone here should have found it equally obnoxious.

Get over being gay. It shouldn't define your every waking moment. My being heterosexual doesn't make me think only in terms of my sexual preference on every issue, every topic, in every moment of my day. Stop throwing up your gayness as a yardstick by which you measure the rest of us.

Now chew on that.

Wow.

 

[Bling-tastic]

Re: Do you think gay men here help or hurt the diamond indus

Holly, perhaps you would find yourself focused more on your heterosexuality if it meant that you were a member of a minority group that faces stigma, discrimination, and even violence and death, in our society.

 

[MonkeyPie]

Re: Do you think gay men here help or hurt the diamond indus

Holly, perhaps you would find yourself focused more on your heterosexuality if it meant that you were a member of a minority group that faces stigma, discrimination, and even violence and death, in our society.

Oh, please. I don't see any of our other minorities that have been mistreated in the past posting stuff like this. Only Kenny does, and Kenny also brings his sexual orientation into just about every post he makes here. He has to add it in like it's a thorn in our sides and he enjoys poking at it.

Most of us here tolerate him just fine because he IS smart, and he shows it in a lot of ways. But posts like this and the insanely huge chip on his shoulder about his sexuality just irritates the majority.

ETA: I agree with Holly completely. That happens quite a lot.

 

[dragonfly411]

Re: Do you think gay men here help or hurt the diamond indus

Well, sometimes after getting a tongue-lashing from the usual suspects here I'm not feeling too gay.
Why that hail did they pick that word, gay, anyway?
Thanks Crasru.

Because gay men are gay? I truly mean this. Gay men are some of the happiest creatures I've ever encountered. EVER. They are always bright, look at it as glass half full, outgoing, cheery, social, and intelligent. At least that's the experience I've had.

Um ... uh ... "creatures"? Really? Plus: Holy stereotyping, Batman. I'm picturing some kind of kooky, rainbow PETTING ZOO from your description.

MMk, I definitely meant it as a compliment. All of my gay friends are the ones who make me feel better at the end of the day. They generally are just very happy people. Enjoy your petting zoo mentality.

 

[kenny]

Re: Do you think gay men here help or hurt the diamond indus

Holly, perhaps you would find yourself focused more on your heterosexuality if it meant that you were a member of a minority group that faces stigma, discrimination, and even violence and death, in our society.

Oh, please. I don't see any of our other minorities that have been mistreated in the past posting stuff like this. Only Kenny does, and Kenny also brings his sexual orientation into just about every post he makes here. He has to add it in like it's a thorn in our sides and he enjoys poking at it.

Most of us here tolerate him just fine because he IS smart, and he shows it in a lot of ways. But posts like this and the insanely huge chip on his shoulder about his sexuality just irritates the majority.

ETA: I agree with Holly completely. That happens quite a lot.

Gay bashings and murders, marriage inequality and civil rights violations voted into law by "your majority" - but I'm the one with the "the chip on my shoulder".
Nice.

To make the majority happy I'll just shut up and go to the back of the bus.