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I agree with Madam Bijoux. I don't think it could hurt, but I don't think it will really change anyone's opinion about wearing diamonds, either.Madam Bijoux|1295638969|2828936 said:I don't see how anyone who loves diamonds could hurt the diamond industry. (I know lots of straight men who wear diamonds.) As others have said, it depends on the individual. People who don't want to wear diamonds probably never will want to wear them. People who always wore diamonds will continue to wear them.
Haven|1295716962|2829683 said:Kenny--Would you have been insulted if Holly responded with:
"I think that is a silly question"?
or
"I think that is a foolish question"?
Was it her choice of words that offended you, or the assertion that this question is really not worth asking?
I'm really curious, I'm not just trying to stir the pot. I've seen many posts by you that preach intolerance of intolerance, but I must say that I sometimes find them confusing because they are (sometimes) in response to posts that seemed productive to me. SO, this particular example has me wondering what, in particular, you find offensive about Holly's post.
I am not challenging the fact that you are offended by it, that seems obvious and perfectly understandable. I'm trying to understand your particular definition of *the wrong kind of intolerance.* I think that will help me understand the lessons you like to include in response to posts that offend your sensibilities, and I'm truly curious.
Haven|1295716962|2829683 said:Kenny--Would you have been insulted if Holly responded with:
"I think that is a silly question"?
or
"I think that is a foolish question"?
Was it her choice of words that offended you, or the assertion that this question is really not worth asking?
I'm really curious, I'm not just trying to stir the pot. I've seen many posts by you that preach intolerance of intolerance, but I must say that I sometimes find them confusing because they are (sometimes) in response to posts that seemed productive to me. SO, this particular example has me wondering what, in particular, you find offensive about Holly's post.
I am not challenging the fact that you are offended by it, that seems obvious and perfectly understandable. I'm trying to understand your particular definition of *the wrong kind of intolerance.* I think that will help me understand the lessons you like to include in response to posts that offend your sensibilities, and I'm truly curious.
suchende|1295682777|2829508 said:"Honey, would you ever wear diamonds?"
"Nope."
"Why?"
"I am a man."
"So you think men don't wear diamonds?"
"Mhmm."
i guess the issue is settled at my house. i think it's probably cultural/regional though.
ksinger|1295717668|2829697 said:Haven|1295716962|2829683 said:Kenny--Would you have been insulted if Holly responded with:
"I think that is a silly question"?
or
"I think that is a foolish question"?
Was it her choice of words that offended you, or the assertion that this question is really not worth asking?
I'm really curious, I'm not just trying to stir the pot. I've seen many posts by you that preach intolerance of intolerance, but I must say that I sometimes find them confusing because they are (sometimes) in response to posts that seemed productive to me. SO, this particular example has me wondering what, in particular, you find offensive about Holly's post.
I am not challenging the fact that you are offended by it, that seems obvious and perfectly understandable. I'm trying to understand your particular definition of *the wrong kind of intolerance.* I think that will help me understand the lessons you like to include in response to posts that offend your sensibilities, and I'm truly curious.
You beat me to it. I want an explanation of how one gets from comment (choice of words aside) about a question, to being intolerant of diversity.
Kenny, you do come across as a one-note Johnny at times. And it seems that anyone who says anything that upsets you is immediately and reflexively labeled "intolerant of diversity" in your world. You say you aren't addicted to agreement with your positions, but you are quick to lob blanket accusations when someone dares.
My understanding of the word tolerance is just that - I TOLERATE something. I might, but do not necessarily HAVE to, agree or sympathize with it, think it's OK, or that it is good for the individual or society. I TOLERATE it.
Everything comes with a price, too much conformity AND too much diversity both have a cost.
charbie|1295718361|2829708 said:See, this what i was talking about. Its like you were sitting there, waiting for someone to say something so you could make this about the PS comminuty being "intolerant" yet again.
This question was loaded and you know it. If you want to pretend it was innocent, be my guest, but this is not the first time you've made a post like this.
kenny|1295718636|2829712 said:charbie|1295718361|2829708 said:See, this what i was talking about. Its like you were sitting there, waiting for someone to say something so you could make this about the PS comminuty being "intolerant" yet again.
This question was loaded and you know it. If you want to pretend it was innocent, be my guest, but this is not the first time you've made a post like this.
...and it won't be the last.
But NO this thread was not baiting on my part.
If you see it and me in that light I can't help that.
Tolerating diversity is something I struggle with too.
It is fascinating how often we are intolerant once you find out what to look for.
I'm no better than anyone.
It's not the PS community.
It's every human on the planet.
Yep. Which suits me just fine in my little bubble.waterlilly said:suchende|1295682777|2829508 said:"Honey, would you ever wear diamonds?"
"Nope."
"Why?"
"I am a man."
"So you think men don't wear diamonds?"
"Mhmm."
i guess the issue is settled at my house. i think it's probably cultural/regional though.
Pretty much the same conversation I had in my house...
"men don't wear diamonds" ... me- why? "they just don't. we don't wear high-heels, we don't wear pearl necklaces, and we don't wear diamond rings.....unless you are like a rock star or something..."
kenny|1295717857|2829701 said:Calling the question asinine is intolerant.
HollyS|1295654850|2829235 said:Kenny, frankly, I find that to be a perfectly asinine question.
Tacori E-ring|1295644088|2829068 said:Actually when I think of men wearing diamonds I think of rappers. I am sure they are very helpful for the economy and the diamond industry.
Now you're starting to sound like Dancing Fire, MC!MC|1295720422|2829743 said:Tacori E-ring|1295644088|2829068 said:Actually when I think of men wearing diamonds I think of rappers. I am sure they are very helpful for the economy and the diamond industry.
I read that 67.5% of men wearing diamonds are affiliated with the maffia, 17.9% are in the music industry, 2.5% are gay, and the rest are straight men.
kenny|1295717857|2829701 said:All you had to do was say, No Kenny, gay men posting about their diamonds does affect the industry's sales to straight men.
Calling the question asinine is intolerant.
kenny|1295717857|2829701 said:ksinger|1295717668|2829697 said:Haven|1295716962|2829683 said:Kenny--Would you have been insulted if Holly responded with:
"I think that is a silly question"?
or
"I think that is a foolish question"?
Was it her choice of words that offended you, or the assertion that this question is really not worth asking?
I'm really curious, I'm not just trying to stir the pot. I've seen many posts by you that preach intolerance of intolerance, but I must say that I sometimes find them confusing because they are (sometimes) in response to posts that seemed productive to me. SO, this particular example has me wondering what, in particular, you find offensive about Holly's post.
I am not challenging the fact that you are offended by it, that seems obvious and perfectly understandable. I'm trying to understand your particular definition of *the wrong kind of intolerance.* I think that will help me understand the lessons you like to include in response to posts that offend your sensibilities, and I'm truly curious.
You beat me to it. I want an explanation of how one gets from comment (choice of words aside) about a question, to being intolerant of diversity.
Kenny, you do come across as a one-note Johnny at times. And it seems that anyone who says anything that upsets you is immediately and reflexively labeled "intolerant of diversity" in your world. You say you aren't addicted to agreement with your positions, but you are quick to lob blanket accusations when someone dares.
My understanding of the word tolerance is just that - I TOLERATE something. I might, but do not necessarily HAVE to, agree or sympathize with it, think it's OK, or that it is good for the individual or society. I TOLERATE it.
Everything comes with a price, too much conformity AND too much diversity both have a cost.
All you had to do was say, No Kenny, gay men posting about their diamonds does affect the industry's sales to straight men.
Calling the question asinine is intolerant.
kenny|1295724269|2829826 said:I appreciate all the replies on the main topic and the subtopic of tolerance.
I'm listening, and grateful for the feedback.