ruby59
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missy|1485723156|4121564 said:ruby59|1485722998|4121561 said:missy|1485722574|4121558 said:ruby59 said:missy|1485700310|4121434 said:JoCoJenn|1485699414|4121429 said:I respect what those who " grew up Catholic" were exposed to; I also was raised Catholic (church, not school), albeit what appears a slightly different/later generation. My mother & her siblings also went to Catholic school for part of their education, and I recall hearing the stories of having nuns crack rulers on students knuckles and even an incident where one student's hands were placed in a window sill and the window slammed down on them. I don't recall what these incidents were in response to, and it doesn't matter. My cousin also attended a Catholic school, and her stories - while still advocating a strict adherence to the faith - did not carry any incidents of mistreatment that she noted. And now, knowing others who practice Catholicism today, there continually seems to be an evolving attitude and direction in the church from its controversial past.
My point simply being - while not excusing the actions from past years - it would appear that "times and practices" are changing, and I don't think it's quite fair to project the attitudes and actions of the past onto those who choose to practice the faith today.
Yes, I agree with this JoCoJenn but it is important not to forget the recent past in order for it not to happen again. Don't you agree? It was still quite recently these practices were occurring.
And to be fair, recognize this as isolated situations not universal occurrences.
My husband's family is Catholic. They all went to Catholic schools, and none suffered this kind of abuse.
Well I don't know the statistics but according to my friends (and my dh) who attended catholic school in the 1960s and 70s it was happening to all of them. Corporal punishment and verbal abuse. I went to a public school during these decades and we never experienced this but my friends who attended private Catholic school certainly did. So it seems as if at least in the Northeast if one attended Catholic school during these decades hitting the children etc was not an isolated situation.
http://www.newsweek.com/what-catholic-school-taught-me-about-violence-77657
As you know, I am from Rhode Island. A state in the Northeast and one that is very Catholic.
My husband comes from a very large, Catholic family. They attended various Catholic schools in my State from Kindergarten right through high school. And all the stories I have heard over the last 35+ years were positive - even from my husband, who is bordering on agnostic.
Ruby, first of all I had no clue as to where you are from so no I didn't know you are from Rhode Island. Second of all that is your dh's experience and I am sharing my dh's experience and all our friends experience with Catholic school abuse in the 60s and 70s. It existed and it was unfortunately not an isolated occurrence from what I have heard personally. I wish it had been.
Missy, I agree that it did happen. I agree that your husband had a different experience as did all your friends.
You are right it might not have even been an isolated occurrence.
And to be fair, recognize this as isolated situations not universal occurrences.
But I still stand by the last part of my original post to you above, that it was not universal.