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is this a new trend or just another excuse for jewelry gift?.. :Up_to_something: does the new daddy get jewelry too?
 
It's a very old tradition in the UK, dating back to the middle ages, as far as I know. I don't know about anywhere else.

It's also a great excuse for new jewellery, of course! ;))
 
daddy can get a gift when his penis squeezes out a baby.
 
DF, as you know, we adopted our first child so I didn't push her out. Both us got gifts to commemorate our children joining our family either through birth or adoption...which we will then pass along to them when they're older.
 
ForteKitty|1302679009|2894796 said:
daddy can get a gift when his penis squeezes out a baby.

Lol!!! I will tell DH....

He bought me a gorgeous OEC and we will have it remounted and sized after the baby is born. I can't wait! New baby and jewels... can't get much better than that!
 
ForteKitty|1302679009|2894796 said:
daddy can get a gift when his penis squeezes out a baby.


Yes!! I couldnt have said it better!!!!!!!!

Actually, I am not against getting him a gift to mark the occasion although my son's dad absolutely REFUSED any kind of gift. He said "what did I do besides get to have sex with you??"

What I am against is the people that think that us moms are ridiculous for expecting a "mommy gift". It's ALOT of work, carrying AND delivering (but I dont need to tell other moms this).

I got bracelets to represent each child with their name/date engraved, a locket for each child w/their initials, a diamond bezel pendant for my 1st child, and the diamond huggies I got this week was for having my latest baby. He's asking me to have another baby (already!!). I said one more, IF the jewlery is right :naughty: :lol:
 
Carrying, delivering and don't forget, caring for the child while trying to recover from the birth/surgery and learning how to BF'd while dealing with major hormonal changes and sometimes PPD. I'd say I deserve something nice. I have a diamond and sapphire ring on order from ID Jewelry. A month or two before Aidan was born my husband spent $1800 on a new gun, which was more than three times the cost of my ring. I think he got his gift...
 
I got a new couch with a recliner at each end :tongue: I'd say my gift was more practical, haha.
 
I think it's inflation. My dad always gave my mom huge rose bouquets. Since that was 20-30+ years ago, I'd say a diamond pendant is today's equivalent.

I also think that today's man is more apt to understand how much his wife/gf actually has to give of herself in order for them to have a child. What would it take for a man to give up drinking, staying up late, concerts, carnival rides, junk food, 4-wheeling/snowmobiling, deli meat and good steaks? Add in random boob leakage and a big a$$ and I say that equals a nice new sparkly.
 
I think it's a new tradition. I have 4 adult kids and I didn't get any presents! None of my friends did either. Boy do our husbands owe us!
 
You know, threads like this are why I stay on PS. If it was just about the bling, dude, I get the Sotheby's auction catalogues, I get my fix. But threads about wearing big e-rings at work and the politics of upgrades and whether a failing economy affects public presentation? Count. Me. In. I think stuff like this says SO much about the narrative of women in contemporary culture.

As for what it says? I actually did a random Google of "push presents" a couple of weeks ago after seeing an acrimonious thread on a similar topic on another forum. It seems like there are three basic variants on responses.

1) The logical: this has been a tradition for generations that has only just acquired an obnoxious name.

2) What about the menz? In which our stalwart champions pursue justice and equality for all, despite the fact that childbirth, for a man, is sort of ... well, anatomically impossible. But it was really had to watch. Ergo, flat-screen! I kinda think this one grows out of the backlash to feminism and the vaguely wounded feelings some dudes have about the fact that after a lifetime of male privilege, they have to compete with female coworkers AND open the occasional door.

3) The consistent: the meme in which women, and usually American women, are grasping, greedy, materialistic, and wholly objectionable. They expect engagement rings! They have big weddings! McMansions! Shoe addictions! AND they want a reward for the most beautiful and selfless and natural act a woman can perform, that of bringing new life into the world! Heresy and abomination and obviously just what you can expect when you teach them all that fancy book-larnin'.

3A) Hallmark conspiracy. They've already talked society into Valentine's Day (actually, blame Chaucer); where will the madness end? Soon, women will expect presents for their daily bowel movement! Har, har, har.

Except for Numero Uno (which is rarely the popular choice), ugh.

Seriously, men and same-sex partners (from whom, I will note, I have never once heard a complaint): when the mother of your child has gone through the ordeal of birth, whether it be by squeezing something the size of a watermelon through an opening that's conservatively the size of a (small) lime or by having her torso sliced lengthwise like she's just had an encounter with Captain Hook, be nice to her. Bring her champagne and sushi and flowers in recovery, and if she's a 5-love-languages present person, buy a damned locket! If you know she'd prefer a day at a spa or a maid for a month or whatever, do that. Good gods, it's not rocket science.
 
somethingshiny|1302703742|2894911 said:
I think it's inflation. My dad always gave my mom huge rose bouquets. Since that was 20-30+ years ago, I'd say a diamond pendant is today's equivalent.

I also think that today's man is more apt to understand how much his wife/gf actually has to give of herself in order for them to have a child. What would it take for a man to give up drinking, staying up late, concerts, carnival rides, junk food, 4-wheeling/snowmobiling, deli meat and good steaks? Add in random boob leakage and a big a$$ and I say that equals a nice new sparkly.

Hah! This cracked me up.
 
I have 5 and didn't get a single present either! On top of it, 4 were c-sections!!!

I do bring it up though every time I want a new piece of jewelry!
 
Jennifer W|1302675964|2894785 said:
It's a very old tradition in the UK, dating back to the middle ages, as far as I know. I don't know about anywhere else.

It's also a great excuse for new jewellery, of course! ;))

I didn't know that!! Interesting.

I think it is new to the US; I had never heard of it before PS and then they did a segment on the Today Show about push presents.

Those birthstone Mother's rings have been around a long time though.
 
Circe|1302704104|2894919 said:
You know, threads like this are why I stay on PS. If it was just about the bling, dude, I get the Sotheby's auction catalogues, I get my fix. But threads about wearing big e-rings at work and the politics of upgrades and whether a failing economy affects public presentation? Count. Me. In. I think stuff like this says SO much about the narrative of women in contemporary culture.

As for what it says? I actually did a random Google of "push presents" a couple of weeks ago after seeing an acrimonious thread on a similar topic on another forum. It seems like there are three basic variants on responses.

1) The logical: this has been a tradition for generations that has only just acquired an obnoxious name.

2) What about the menz? In which our stalwart champions pursue justice and equality for all, despite the fact that childbirth, for a man, is sort of ... well, anatomically impossible. But it was really had to watch. Ergo, flat-screen! I kinda think this one grows out of the backlash to feminism and the vaguely wounded feelings some dudes have about the fact that after a lifetime of male privilege, they have to compete with female coworkers AND open the occasional door.

3) The consistent: the meme in which women, and usually American women, are grasping, greedy, materialistic, and wholly objectionable. They expect engagement rings! They have big weddings! McMansions! Shoe addictions! AND they want a reward for the most beautiful and selfless and natural act a woman can perform, that of bringing new life into the world! Heresy and abomination and obviously just what you can expect when you teach them all that fancy book-larnin'.

3A) Hallmark conspiracy. They've already talked society into Valentine's Day (actually, blame Chaucer); where will the madness end? Soon, women will expect presents for their daily bowel movement! Har, har, har.

Except for Numero Uno (which is rarely the popular choice), ugh.

Seriously, men and same-sex partners (from whom, I will note, I have never once heard a complaint): when the mother of your child has gone through the ordeal of birth, whether it be by squeezing something the size of a watermelon through an opening that's conservatively the size of a (small) lime or by having her torso sliced lengthwise like she's just had an encounter with Captain Hook, be nice to her. Bring her champagne and sushi and flowers in recovery, and if she's a 5-love-languages present person, buy a damned locket! If you know she'd prefer a day at a spa or a maid for a month or whatever, do that. Good gods, it's not rocket science.

Circe, I did a whole lot of nodding to this post (you do such a great job of articulating the things that bug me, I generally only have to follow your posts around PS and nod my agreement) and then snorted at the Captain Hook comment. I love your posts.
 
Jennifer W|1302675964|2894785 said:
It's a very old tradition in the UK, dating back to the middle ages, as far as I know. I don't know about anywhere else.

It's also a great excuse for new jewellery, of course! ;))

I didn't know that there is tradition behind a push present. In fact, I thought it was a trend in recent times and figured only women on PS got them :) lol

FWIW, I am in the captain-hook category and wasn't sent home with anything other than a baby and a bottle of pain pills! Ugh. I would like a mini tummy tuck as a belated push-present...which DH agreed to but they're a bit more pricey than I realized so we've put that off! I did buy a pair of diamond earrings a few years after my first was born and it was sort of like a "treat" b/c of having my baby AND was a combo b-day present.
 
ForteKitty|1302679009|2894796 said:
daddy can get a gift when his penis squeezes out a baby.

No sh*t. Or if he obstains from beer for 9+ months.
 
Well put Circe!

To add another variant, I have a friend who HATES the idea of push presents because she feels like for some men, they think, 'Well I got you a locket/ring/whatever, what more do you want??" As if a little ring could actually compensate ever for the process of pregnancy, labour, breastfeeding et al.

I agree with her, it is no compensation, but why throw the baby out with the bathwater? ;)) Women need to learn to milk it. You get a ring, AND you get to sleep in for 2 years (I still sleep in in the mornings), AND you get an excuse to buy clothing, AND you get a reason not to mow the lawn. Ad infinitum. :halo:

Jokes aside, I bought and chose my own baby gifts. I look at them as commemmorations, not compensations.

And no, my husband did not get anything. His whole life is one big gift ;)) He gets to golf, go out drinking with friends, sleep through the night. Such presents galore.
 
What happened to the days when men thought the child was the gift his wife bestowed upon him?
 
I studied Medieval history for a semester in my first year at university, and I have a distant memory of a lecturer talking about the gift a 12th century Scottish king presented to his wife as a token of his gratitude when she 'gave him a son.' It's in a museum somewhere, and he showed a slide with a photo of it. It was a jewel and pearl encrusted gold piece designed to hang from a belt or chain worn around the waist.

On that basis, I'm assuming that a gift of jewelry to mark the birth of a child is an old, old tradition. I've also seen it referred to in Georgian and Victorian literature. From the vagueness of my description above, you'll spot that I'm no historical scholar though - I could of course be mistaken. :bigsmile:

Anyway, if I got this right, my issue with this tradition is that no such gift was forthcoming on the birth of a daughter. I guess they don't call 'em the Dark Ages for nothing. ;))
 
Jennifer W|1302713730|2895063 said:
I studied Medieval history for a semester in my first year at university, and I have a distant memory of a lecturer talking about the gift a 12th century Scottish king presented to his wife as a token of his gratitude when she 'gave him a son.' It's in a museum somewhere, and he showed a slide with a photo of it. It was a jewel and pearl encrusted gold piece designed to hang from a belt or chain worn around the waist.

On that basis, I'm assuming that a gift of jewelry to mark the birth of a child is an old, old tradition. I've also seen it referred to in Georgian and Victorian literature. From the vagueness of my description above, you'll spot that I'm no historical scholar though - I could of course be mistaken. :bigsmile:

Anyway, if I got this right, my issue with this tradition is that no such gift was forthcoming on the birth of a daughter. I guess they don't call 'em the Dark Ages for nothing. ;))

It all sounds familiar from movies. I'm for sure no scholar either so thought it was interesting to hear this. Almost makes me wish I was married to a scottish king...but then again, I'd end up being pregnant every year waiting for that dang heir to eventually show up...twelve daughters later, no jewels. lol
 
Circe|1302704104|2894919 said:
You know, threads like this are why I stay on PS. If it was just about the bling, dude, I get the Sotheby's auction catalogues, I get my fix. But threads about wearing big e-rings at work and the politics of upgrades and whether a failing economy affects public presentation? Count. Me. In. I think stuff like this says SO much about the narrative of women in contemporary culture.

As for what it says? I actually did a random Google of "push presents" a couple of weeks ago after seeing an acrimonious thread on a similar topic on another forum. It seems like there are three basic variants on responses.

1) The logical: this has been a tradition for generations that has only just acquired an obnoxious name.

2) What about the menz? In which our stalwart champions pursue justice and equality for all, despite the fact that childbirth, for a man, is sort of ... well, anatomically impossible. But it was really had to watch. Ergo, flat-screen! I kinda think this one grows out of the backlash to feminism and the vaguely wounded feelings some dudes have about the fact that after a lifetime of male privilege, they have to compete with female coworkers AND open the occasional door.

3) The consistent: the meme in which women, and usually American women, are grasping, greedy, materialistic, and wholly objectionable. They expect engagement rings! They have big weddings! McMansions! Shoe addictions! AND they want a reward for the most beautiful and selfless and natural act a woman can perform, that of bringing new life into the world! Heresy and abomination and obviously just what you can expect when you teach them all that fancy book-larnin'.

3A) Hallmark conspiracy. They've already talked society into Valentine's Day (actually, blame Chaucer); where will the madness end? Soon, women will expect presents for their daily bowel movement! Har, har, har.

Except for Numero Uno (which is rarely the popular choice), ugh.

Seriously, men and same-sex partners (from whom, I will note, I have never once heard a complaint): when the mother of your child has gone through the ordeal of birth, whether it be by squeezing something the size of a watermelon through an opening that's conservatively the size of a (small) lime or by having her torso sliced lengthwise like she's just had an encounter with Captain Hook, be nice to her. Bring her champagne and sushi and flowers in recovery, and if she's a 5-love-languages present person, buy a damned locket! If you know she'd prefer a day at a spa or a maid for a month or whatever, do that. Good gods, it's not rocket science.

Circe, I love you. Hope you don't mind being told that by a random stranger. That is all.

I do hate the term "push present" though. Not for any good reason, just that it's...squicky...to me.
 
Selkie, I love her too. :))

MC, I'm afraid we don't have Scottish kings these days. We don't have jewels to wear on belt chains either, sadly, Gosh, it was a pretty thing. I also remember the Alfred Jewel, from the same history class. It was a lovely thing too.
 
Jennifer W|1302714833|2895078 said:
Selkie, I love her too. :))

MC, I'm afraid we don't have Scottish kings these days. We don't have jewels to wear on belt chains either, sadly, Gosh, it was a pretty thing. I also remember the Alfred Jewel, from the same history class. It was a lovely thing too.

sounds like it's time for a revolution :) lol
 
There are strong views on either side of that debate, MC. :devil:
 
Jennifer W|1302715485|2895090 said:
There are strong views on either side of that debate, MC. :devil:


hahaha - yeah, sorry if I offended. I'm actually not familiar with Scottish history so can see if my comment was a bit off. lol (okay...off to read my "Mysteries of the Mexican Pyramids" book now ;)
 
Oh no, you totally didn't offend me. Honestly, that's virtually impossible these days. I just didn't want to clog up a thread about baby gifts with my own long rant about sovereignty. That really would have the potential to offend. :bigsmile:
 
ForteKitty|1302679009|2894796 said:
daddy can get a gift when his penis squeezes out a baby.
LMAO!
 
I also didn't know that it was tradition, other than say the Dad giving a bouquet of flowers.
Put me in the group who also actively dislikes the term "push present". Do you not get one if you had a c-section because you didn't push! No it's not about the pushing but it is a lovely and loving thing to do. I also don't think has to be something really expensive as not everyone has the means for an extravagent gift each birth. Maybe we can just say birth present or birth mother present.
 
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