Anyone watching the new J&K+8 tonight?

[Italiahaircolor]

....I am! I''m actually glued to the t.v. like you wouldn''t believe....

 

[Tuckins1]

Just turned it on... These people are going through a hard time, and they have to do it on TV. They DO have a tough family to deal with at times, and I think people tend to judge them, but forget that their situation puts a lot of strain on a marriage. Even one kid can stress a marriage- so twins and sextuplets... Geesh!!

 

[Italiahaircolor]

You can hear it in his voice...

 

[E B]

Ugh. Part of me wants to boycott, while the other part of me is curious.

I''ll probably end up watching it.

 

[Kaleigh]

Date: 5/25/2009 9:08:18 PM
Author: EBree
Ugh. Part of me wants to boycott, while the other part of me is curious.

I''ll probably end up watching it.

Ditto.

 

[princesss]

I''ve never watched an episode when it actually aired until tonight. I really wanted to see how they''d address everything that''s been going on lately.

 

[Ara Ann]

Does anyone else think John looks really bad? Like he hasn''t slept in weeks? Has to be a bad situation in their home right now...seems like they both have a lot of issues to face and deal with...for the kids sake, I hope they can work through their problems.

 

[iheartscience]

Yep, I''m watching it! Yikes...it''s not sounding good for them. But I am riveted, whether that''s right or wrong!

 

[iluvcarats]

This is very very sad.
I feel for them.
I hope it works out.
It would really suck to be going through this, but to do it on national TV

 

[Sizzle]

Didn''t see this one! Yes, It''s painful. Her tone is so sad and WTF is John!? Did he just leave her to do everything for this party.

 

[iheartscience]

Yeah, Jon is coming off as a total a-hole. Kate can stay home with the kids but he can''t? They''re his kids, too! I HATE it when dads act like they''re babysitting their own children.

 

[upgrade]

I''m shamelessly watching it! And can I just say that I find Kate''s hair SO distracting! Is it long or is it short? Blonde or brunette? Pick something and stick with it Kate! I''m not a fan of the little bit long/little bit short deal- reminds me of the mullet in reverse.

You can see the strain- it''s kind of uncomfortable to watch (although I''m not exactly turning away!). I feel for them. I think they''re a family who tired to make the best of a tough situation and got caught up in the fame and fortune. I hope they find their way back but I don''t know how they''re going to do that on TV. I think they need to get back to basics.

 

[Ara Ann]

Date: 5/25/2009 9:38:36 PM
Author: thing2of2
Yeah, Jon is coming off as a total a-hole. Kate can stay home with the kids but he can''t? They''re his kids, too! I HATE it when dads act like they''re babysitting their own children.

I think it''s because Kate has left him for weeks at a time...sorry, but I can see his point there. My husband wouldn''t appreciate that either. If Kate can''t handle having the kids for a few days on her own, why is she mad that Jon had a problem with the kids after weeks on his own? She mentions he had help...I imagine she could have had help to plan the party as well, if she had asked someone. I''m not buying the ''poor Kate planning the party all alone act''...

 

[iheartscience]

Date: 5/25/2009 9:42:26 PM
Author: Ara Ann

Date: 5/25/2009 9:38:36 PM

Author: thing2of2

Yeah, Jon is coming off as a total a-hole. Kate can stay home with the kids but he can''t? They''re his kids, too! I HATE it when dads act like they''re babysitting their own children.

I think it''s because Kate has left him for weeks at a time...sorry, but I can see his point there. My husband wouldn''t appreciate that either. If Kate can''t handle having the kids for a few days on her own, why is she mad that Jon had a problem with the kids after weeks on his own? She mentions he had help...I imagine she could have had help to plan the party as well, if she had asked someone. I''m not buying the ''poor Kate planning the party all alone act''...

Yeah, but she''s out making $! He lost his job, so why shouldn''t he stay with the kids? If Kate was complaining about watching her kids for a few weeks at a time people would be tearing her apart. I don''t buy the "poor Kate doing it all herself" thing either, but at least she''s there. I don''t know, I think Jon is over it so he just wants to bail. But when you have 8 kids, that''s not really a possibility!

 

[Italiahaircolor]

I was wondering about the party thing too...

So strange....

 

[Italiahaircolor]

You can tell Kate it trying to be very breezy at the party...like "haha, look at how relaxed and cool I can be! I''m so happy...so take that!"

 

[Ara Ann]

Date: 5/25/2009 9:50:06 PM
Author: thing2of2

Date: 5/25/2009 9:42:26 PM

Author: Ara Ann

Date: 5/25/2009 9:38:36 PM


Author: thing2of2


Yeah, Jon is coming off as a total a-hole. Kate can stay home with the kids but he can''t? They''re his kids, too! I HATE it when dads act like they''re babysitting their own children.

I think it''s because Kate has left him for weeks at a time...sorry, but I can see his point there. My husband wouldn''t appreciate that either. If Kate can''t handle having the kids for a few days on her own, why is she mad that Jon had a problem with the kids after weeks on his own? She mentions he had help...I imagine she could have had help to plan the party as well, if she had asked someone. I''m not buying the ''poor Kate planning the party all alone act''...

Yeah, but she''s out making $! He lost his job, so why shouldn''t he stay with the kids? If Kate was complaining about watching her kids for a few weeks at a time people would be tearing her apart. I don''t buy the ''poor Kate doing it all herself'' thing either, but at least she''s there. I don''t know, I think Jon is over it so he just wants to bail. But when you have 8 kids, that''s not really a possibility!

That is a big part of their problem I think...Jon is really depressed about not having a job...he said, ''he''s worked his whole life'' - and now doesn''t have a job...you can''t underestimate what losing a job does to a man''s sense of self worth. Top that off with all of the publicity (asked for or not), staying home with 8 kids (I couldn''t do it!) AND his wife being very successful and now being the breadwinner, it''s not a good mix. Not excusing his behavior, just saying I can understand it.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Date: 5/25/2009 9:57:25 PM
Author: Ara Ann



That is a big part of their problem I think...Jon is really depressed about not having a job...he said, ''he''s worked his whole life'' - and now doesn''t have a job...you can''t underestimate what losing a job does to a man''s sense of self worth. Top that off with all of the publicity (asked for or not), staying home with 8 kids (I couldn''t do it!) AND his wife being very successful and now being the breadwinner, it''s not a good mix. Not excusing his behavior, just saying I can understand it.

I agree.

 

[Kaleigh]

To me watching it was depressing. I feel for both of them. But see how John feels. I think he had no clue what would be in store for them. The fame, the Pap''s . It was too much too soon, and getting back to basics now, doesn''t seem possible. Kate wants the limelight and John wants no part of it. He seems so sad. It was very hard to watch.

 

[iheartscience]

Yeah that was depressing...yikes.

 

[Italiahaircolor]

I really listened to the last ten minutes or so and I really think that they are diplomatically trying to announce that they will be seperating. You didn''t hear anything about fixing or saving the marriage...only all this talk about staying friends, not placing blame and so on....

 

[iheartscience]

Date: 5/25/2009 10:15:44 PM
Author: Italiahaircolor
I really listened to the last ten minutes or so and I really think that they are diplomatically trying to announce that they will be seperating. You didn''t hear anything about fixing or saving the marriage...only all this talk about staying friends, not placing blame and so on....

Ditto...what a shame. I wonder if they got counseling at all?

 

[princesss]

Date: 5/25/2009 10:52:04 PM
Author: thing2of2

Date: 5/25/2009 10:15:44 PM

Author: Italiahaircolor

I really listened to the last ten minutes or so and I really think that they are diplomatically trying to announce that they will be seperating. You didn''t hear anything about fixing or saving the marriage...only all this talk about staying friends, not placing blame and so on....

Ditto...what a shame. I wonder if they got counseling at all?

Same. It was all "I''m here for the kids," and not "We''re working on our marriage." It made me really sad. It definitely seems like neither of them was really listening to what the other person was saying, and Kate made a big point of saying, "I can only speak for MYSELF, not for anybody else, but *I* will be at everything I can..."

 

[Italiahaircolor]

For me, this is very sad.

I was never a "religious" viewer of J&K+8...but it's heartbreaking. I think these are two people who wanted a family and a happy life...and their best intentions imploded in on them.

I found it ironic that in the opening it wasn't the typical "we're in this together" motto that has followed them for the past 4 seasons...it was by far down played. And it made me sad.

Jon seems different. Sad. Quiet. And clearly Kate was heartbroken. I cannot begin to imagine what it must be like to wake up in the middle of this and have to talk to America about your crumbling marriage. I don't think that I'd have it together enough, so I can appreciate the amount of composure that it took to sit down and directly face this.

But I really think, after listening to them in their own words, that this marriage is fated. I didn't hear the resolve it takes to fight their way out of this terrible time. I heard two people who were trying to say the right things to someday protect their children from the truth. But I think anyone who has ever been on the other end of a break-up heard the real meaning those diplomatic words. I think what makes it even sadder is that just last year they had their vow renewal to show their children that they were always going to be together...and then the house of cards collapsed.

I am really, really sad for those children who will be forever changed by this.

 

[Anastasia]

Date: 5/25/2009 11:15:18 PM
Author: princesss

Date: 5/25/2009 10:52:04 PM
Author: thing2of2

Date: 5/25/2009 10:15:44 PM

Author: Italiahaircolor

I really listened to the last ten minutes or so and I really think that they are diplomatically trying to announce that they will be seperating. You didn''t hear anything about fixing or saving the marriage...only all this talk about staying friends, not placing blame and so on....

Ditto...what a shame. I wonder if they got counseling at all?

Same. It was all ''I''m here for the kids,'' and not ''We''re working on our marriage.'' It made me really sad. It definitely seems like neither of them was really listening to what the other person was saying, and Kate made a big point of saying, ''I can only speak for MYSELF, not for anybody else, but *I* will be at everything I can...''

I agree. They both said I will be there for MY kids. I never heard the words "we" or "our" spoken. I also noticed that when they were at the birthday party, Jon referred to Kate as "she" and Kate referred to Jon as "he" instead of using the other''s first name. It sounded very intentional and uncomfortable. All that I could think as I watched it was that it seemed like things were too far gone to reconcile.

I also thought that at the end, when they were both on the interview chair/sofa that they looked really uncomfortable, and sad at the same time.

I feel very sad about the situation. I think the whole thing became a runaway train, and that fame, on top of the difficulties of raising twins and sextuplets was too much for their marriage. I admire their honesty on tonight''s show.

My kids love the show. My 12 year old watched a bit of tonight''s premiere, and I could tell he was really sad. It almost feels like we know them.

I just wish that the papparazi and press would leave them alone. You can think what you want about Jon and Kate, but it is not fair to the children, who will be having a hard enough time with their family life as it is, without seeing nasty headlines plastered all over the place.

 

[MsP]

Date: 5/25/2009 11:45:20 PM
Author: Italiahaircolor

I am really, really sad for those children who will be forever changed by this.

It was hard to watch... very, very sad. While I am not at all a fan of Kate in general, I feel for her. Her family is falling apart on national TV. At first I was like, "Well then why don''t they bail on the show???" but it''s almost like they''re trapped and can''t really stop it. He''s unemployed and you can''t support a family of ten on a nurses salary.

I second the comment about it sounding very much like they''re separating... but do you think it''s being framed like that so we all tune in? I know that sounds horrible but it''s TV, cut and produced, and TLC is out there to get viewers and make money.

Jon looked sooo worn out. Totally fed up with the show. It was heartbreaking when one of the little girls asked her daddy not to leave anymore.

 

[BeachRunner]

This episode was definitely hard to watch, and as evidenced by Jon and Kate''s facial expressions, hard for them to tape. I am glad the kids do not seem affected by this situation, yet, at least. From my gatherings of the show, it seems like J and K are currently separated. Aside from the last shot of them grilling out, they had no air time actually together. The commercials on TLC during the episode showed the family all together without any problems (so it seemed). I thought that was odd. I wish this family the best, but Kate does not seem to have a positive outlook on the future, and I''m not sure Jon wants to have a future with Kate.

 

[Tacori E-ring]

I did not watch last night so maybe it is not fair for me to comment. Kate (according to articles) is gone over half of the year on speaking engagements. She does NOT seem like a nice woman. She is rude to her fans and seems DRIVEN by money. Do I feel badly that she has to go through marriage problems on national TV? NO WAY! It was THEIR choice to do their show. They have made a fortune. They have nannies, cooks, maids, gardeners, etc...all which NEVER would have happened w/o their show. Show business is all or nothing. You cannot just have the benefits w/o the drawbacks. I feel bad for the kids. They are the ONLY victims. Meanwhile I think the show is boring and they should retire it. It was cute when they were little but now...the charm is gone. She is NOT an everyday woman making it work which I believe is what made the show successful at first. Anyone who thinks that is greatly mislead.

 

[princesss]

Date: 5/26/2009 10:24:40 AM
Author: Tacori E-ring
I did not watch last night so maybe it is not fair for me to comment. Kate (according to articles) is gone over half of the year on speaking engagements. She does NOT seem like a nice woman. She is rude to her fans and seems DRIVEN by money. Do I feel badly that she has to go through marriage problems on national TV? NO WAY! It was THEIR choice to do their show. They have made a fortune. They have nannies, cooks, maids, gardeners, etc...all which NEVER would have happened w/o their show. Show business is all or nothing. You cannot just have the benefits w/o the drawbacks. I feel bad for the kids. They are the ONLY victims. Meanwhile I think the show is boring and they should retire it. It was cute when they were little but now...the charm is gone. She is NOT an everyday woman making it work which I believe is what made the show successful at first. Anyone who thinks that is greatly mislead.

Very true. She''s a celebrity now, going through a lot of problems she probably hadn''t counted on, and trying to take no responsibility for the marriage falling apart (on TV!!).

It''d be healthier for them to quit the show, but who knows why they''re not. She likes the fame, they need the money because they''ve overextended, who knows. But it seems like their marriage is NOT a priority, which is heartbreaking for their kids. They definitely don''t act like they''re living together, with the kids asking Jon not to go away anymore. And Kate''s seeking absolution from the audience (of people she admits she "didn''t like or appreciate" at first, but now that she realizes what a cash cow they are, well, that''s a different story) without admitting that she''s partly responsible for the distance in her marriage. She''s trying to blame Jon, and if he stepped outside the marriage, yes, that''s on him. But she is trying to deny any responsibility AT ALL in the marriage going downhill ("I have been hard on him, but I didn''t drive him to this,") but she doesn''t want to admit that the marriage problems were WHY he stepped outside of it, not HOW they started.

 

[Tacori E-ring]

Princesss, did she address the rumors of her sleeping with her bodyguard? I don''t see how their marriage can work when he wants out of the show and she wants to milk it for every last penny.