Calliecake|1475168467|4082020 said:Elliot86|1475117069|4081869 said:Kenny, I have not heard of Trump criticizing any man regarding weight. He seems to only care what Women weigh.
AnnaH|1475169039|4082025 said:Again, this is not about the Clinton marriage and infidelity. It's about women he sexually assaulted. It's about women HRC discredited and tried to destroy.
redwood66|1475170190|4082037 said:You don't seem to see the point that Hillary brought up Trump's treatment of women. This makes her treatment of women fair game. Including the women she willfully tried to destroy publicly.
AnnaH|1475172321|4082054 said:Red, some HRC supporters seemingly choose to ignore her most serious faults. Helping her husband get away with sexual assaults and rape should not be ignored, much less her efforts to destroy his accusers.
The women who had affairs with Clinton were treated badly but they shouldn't have been involved with a married man. The women who were assaulted are innocent and didn't deserve what either Clinton did to them.
Of course, I'm aware that a man, especially a powerful man, can be falsely accused, but how many women does it take to see what Clinton is? Does it take as many women as it did to finally see Cosby for what he is?
HRC didn't have to leave her husband. If she wants to forgive him, I agree that's her business. But she didn't stop at that. She tried to destroy the women.
AnnaH|1475172321|4082054 said:Red, some HRC supporters seemingly choose to ignore her most serious faults. Helping her husband get away with sexual assaults and rape should not be ignored, much less her efforts to destroy his accusers.
The women who had affairs with Clinton were treated badly but they shouldn't have been involved with a married man. The women who were assaulted are innocent and didn't deserve what either Clinton did to them.
Of course, I'm aware that a man, especially a powerful man, can be falsely accused, but how many women does it take to see what Clinton is? Does it take as many women as it did to finally see Cosby for what he is?
HRC didn't have to leave her husband. If she wants to forgive him, I agree that's her business. But she didn't stop at that. She tried to destroy the women.
AnnaH|1475174623|4082079 said:M, both candidates are terribly flawed. As I've said, I don't condemn those who vote either way or choose to just vote the down ticket.
However, if Trump is held accountable for fat shaming here, then Clinton should be held accountable for discrediting and trying to destroy sexual assault victims of her husband. Let's all vote with our eyes open.
monarch64|1475173657|4082066 said:Both women and men are swept up into the web of terrible, awful, no good things, and they do shitty things to each other and behave like humans who are all competing for power do. Lesson for all of us: don't be a greedy ******* like the people we've elected.
sstephensid|1475174553|4082077 said:AnnaH|1475172321|4082054 said:Red, some HRC supporters seemingly choose to ignore her most serious faults. Helping her husband get away with sexual assaults and rape should not be ignored, much less her efforts to destroy his accusers.
The women who had affairs with Clinton were treated badly but they shouldn't have been involved with a married man. The women who were assaulted are innocent and didn't deserve what either Clinton did to them.
Of course, I'm aware that a man, especially a powerful man, can be falsely accused, but how many women does it take to see what Clinton is? Does it take as many women as it did to finally see Cosby for what he is?
HRC didn't have to leave her husband. If she wants to forgive him, I agree that's her business. But she didn't stop at that. She tried to destroy the women.
Ok that is your opinion. What is your opinion on the accusations against Donald trump?
sstephensid|1475174902|4082082 said:AnnaH|1475174623|4082079 said:M, both candidates are terribly flawed. As I've said, I don't condemn those who vote either way or choose to just vote the down ticket.
However, if Trump is held accountable for fat shaming here, then Clinton should be held accountable for discrediting and trying to destroy sexual assault victims of her husband. Let's all vote with our eyes open.
Not about the fat shaming. About the sexual assault claims against Donald Trump.
sstephensid|1475171548|4082049 said:redwood66|1475170190|4082037 said:You don't seem to see the point that Hillary brought up Trump's treatment of women. This makes her treatment of women fair game. Including the women she willfully tried to destroy publicly.
You don't seem to see the point where Donald has been accused multiple times of assault.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/10619944
What specifc actions destroyed or was an attempt to destroy someone?
sstephensid|1475175534|4082087 said:sstephensid|1475171548|4082049 said:redwood66|1475170190|4082037 said:You don't seem to see the point that Hillary brought up Trump's treatment of women. This makes her treatment of women fair game. Including the women she willfully tried to destroy publicly.
You don't seem to see the point where Donald has been accused multiple times of assault.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/10619944
What specifc actions destroyed or was an attempt to destroy someone?
Systemic misogyny.kenny|1475096011|4081749 said:Calliecake|1475090412|4081725 said:How could ANY woman vote this man???
Uhm ... how could and MAN vote for this man???
AnnaH|1475176108|4082092 said:sstephensid|1475175534|4082087 said:sstephensid|1475171548|4082049 said:redwood66|1475170190|4082037 said:You don't seem to see the point that Hillary brought up Trump's treatment of women. This makes her treatment of women fair game. Including the women she willfully tried to destroy publicly.
You don't seem to see the point where Donald has been accused multiple times of assault.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/10619944
What specifc actions destroyed or was an attempt to destroy someone?
Sorry, not trying to answer for Red.
I hadn't heard of these accusations, so looked for info and found and read the article you posted.
Did you read the articles I posted about the Clintons?
There are some articles that are even more specific. I didn't post those as I found the ones I posted enough info.
The two suits against a Trump may be true. I don't know.
AnnaH|1475180408|4082136 said:Yet another article about Hillary trying to silence and destroy Bill's victims. Anyone who cares can easily find out what Hillary has done.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2016/02/25/the_trashing_of_bills_accusers_what_did_hillary_do_--_and_why_did_she_do_it_129787.html
In spite of the evidence, there are those supporters who seemingly can't admit Hillary could do such things.
Both candidates are awful. Some choose the devil we know and some the devil we don't know as well.
As I don't know anyone here irl, I try to reserve my judgment for the candidates rather than their supporters. I think I've been successful in communicating that attitude, but if not, at least I have tried. Too bad that curtesy isn't extended more often here.
AnnaH|1475182540|4082147 said:S, do you believe Cosby is a rapist? He's not admitted it or been convicted, but there's enough evidence for me to believe it. Enough people have reported what HRC did for me to believe it. She's never going to admit it, so you will probably never believe it. That's that.
sstephensid|1475188536|4082195 said:AnnaH|1475182540|4082147 said:S, do you believe Cosby is a rapist? He's not admitted it or been convicted, but there's enough evidence for me to believe it. Enough people have reported what HRC did for me to believe it. She's never going to admit it, so you will probably never believe it. That's that.
of course I believe the 51 women who came forward.
My point wasn't about sexual assault. It is about everything else. I have read facebook posts about every single imaginable story possible. Hillary cheated at the debate, she murders all of her enemies to keep them silent, she has Parkinson's, she has ms, she has a body double, she is a lesbian, she will be cheating to change votes at the election etc, this is just what I can name off of the top of my head. All of these "articles" have "eyewitnesses" and "experts". Sorry, not sorry I don't believe everything.
Amber St. Clare|1475189318|4082199 said:I just think it's really sad that a man who looks like a sunkist orange with an albino raccoon on his head has the temerity to judge, let alone comment on a woman's looks/weight. And that his party thinks it's ok to do so. The Republican party should have shown Trump the door when he disparaged John McCain. Lincoln must be rolling over in his grave. I guess 2016 will be known as the year the Republican party officially died. cause of death: terminal hubris
Sorry, meant to say I do NOT believe the gossip.AnnaH|1475190089|4082205 said:sstephensid|1475188536|4082195 said:AnnaH|1475182540|4082147 said:S, do you believe Cosby is a rapist? He's not admitted it or been convicted, but there's enough evidence for me to believe it. Enough people have reported what HRC did for me to believe it. She's never going to admit it, so you will probably never believe it. That's that.
of course I believe the 51 women who came forward.
My point wasn't about sexual assault. It is about everything else. I have read facebook posts about every single imaginable story possible. Hillary cheated at the debate, she murders all of her enemies to keep them silent, she has Parkinson's, she has ms, she has a body double, she is a lesbian, she will be cheating to change votes at the election etc, this is just what I can name off of the top of my head. All of these "articles" have "eyewitnesses" and "experts". Sorry, not sorry I don't believe everything.
Like I said, there have been many witnesses to HRC's treatment of the sexual assault victims. She will never admit it, so many of her supporters won't ever believe it. Because I believe these witnesses does mean I believe everything negative about her. No reason to think I do.