Smooth Cabochon Diamond

[onyxweb]

Hi All,

Is it possible to get a completely smooth oval cabochon diamond, like these moonstones?

Like these moonstones: http://www.etsy.com/listing/21925994/vintage-blue-moonstone-cabochon-18x13

Or, because diamonds are the hardest substance on earth it is only possible to make a facetted cabochon approximating to smooth, ut not!

Many thanks,

Bass

 

[onyxweb]

Oh!

And if it IS possible, where can I get some? Preferably in the UK?

Thanks,

Bass

 

[Circe]

Sure, you could cut a diamond cabochon ... but since it would basically look like quartz, I don't think that anybody is. If you have your heart set on it, you could always contact a cutter and place a custom order, but you'd be paying a premium for something that's actually prettier in less expensive materials (like, say, moonstone). What effect are you hoping for? Maybe we can make some alternative suggestions ....

 

[T L]

Moonstones make good cabs because of their adularescence. A diamond is beautiful because it refracts light like nothing else, and if you take the facets away, it will be a boring, albeit expensive, transparent crystal. Might as well get a quartz (good analogy).

 

[slg47]

I've seen some rough diamonds set into rings that are sort of cool-maybe you could get something like that?

 

[onyxweb]

Hi All,

Thankyou for your encouraging replies.

I'd be really interested to hear where you've seen those rough stones set into a ring.

Deep breath - ok the idea is really born of romance and symbolism.

The romance - I want to buy my wife a very special present because she is an amazing life-partner.

Traditionally that has meant diamonds, but she's already got some shiny ones, so I wanted to do something different.

Traditionally sparkling diamonds, shout something out. "Look at me", "I'm rich", "I'm successful", "I am loved", etc etc

ALL of these things are valid, BUT the message I want to convey is "You're number one, and I value you hugely, but the qualities that make our union successful are quiet, reserved, stoical, disciplined." Hey, life IS hard at times, but the hard times are dealt with but a firm-footedness.

Do you get that? Do I make sense - I think I do!

So smooth 3 x cabochon diamonds, one bigger, two smaller, set simply into platinum.

DOn't say a word, I haven't told my wife any of this yet!

Thanks,

B

 

[petrock<3]

I think that is a lovely sentiment and a good idea. May I suggest a more subdued type of diamond cut, like a rose cut, instead of completely hiding the sparkle. I understand not wanting to be flashy.

Also, the idea of a rough diamond with its natural facets is a really good one, as suggested.

Google "Diamond in the Rough" for cool rings sold at Neiman Marcus and Bergdorfs. Also, Etsy has a bunch.

 

[Coooper]

Leonardo Pieroni is a UK designer who specialises in uncut diamond jewellery - I don't have any of his pieces but they are on my wish list!

 

[Circe]

Hi All,

Thankyou for your encouraging replies.

I'd be really interested to hear where you've seen those rough stones set into a ring.

Deep breath - ok the idea is really born of romance and symbolism.

The romance - I want to buy my wife a very special present because she is an amazing life-partner.

Traditionally that has meant diamonds, but she's already got some shiny ones, so I wanted to do something different.

Traditionally sparkling diamonds, shout something out. "Look at me", "I'm rich", "I'm successful", "I am loved", etc etc

ALL of these things are valid, BUT the message I want to convey is "You're number one, and I value you hugely, but the qualities that make our union successful are quiet, reserved, stoical, disciplined." Hey, life IS hard at times, but the hard times are dealt with but a firm-footedness.

Do you get that? Do I make sense - I think I do!

So smooth 3 x cabochon diamonds, one bigger, two smaller, set simply into platinum.

DOn't say a word, I haven't told my wife any of this yet!

Thanks,

B

Aw, okay - that's really sweet, and I get your motivation.

I'd second the rec for getting a rough diamond - it'll look much cooler than a cabochon, trust me. You just need to find the right one ....

The one's Petrock posted are half rose-cuts (pics 1, 3 and 4) and half rough (pic 2). If you want something really unusual looking, maybe hunt down a pearl or balas diamond? I have two rings set with these, and I love them. Here's a link to a thread I started about them: https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/pearl-diamonds.86684/ (and there's a link within the link that'll take you to pics of one of mine). Keep in mind that they're harder to set than traditional stones, and you'll need to find a good craftsperson to do them justice.

 

[kenny]

If you consider a rough diamond...how about a colored one?

http://www.langerman-diamonds.com/shop/catalog/rough

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Okay, I am assuming you are not my husband. But just in case, I want to tell you that is the sweetest idea! But...diamonds are beautiful when they are cut, not as a cabochon. And the idea of a rough diamond in jewelry is ummm, not very appealing to me either.

So, my suggestion is to maybe consider an antique stone/ring, symbolizing endurance, OR if you really love cabochons, then by all means make a ring with sapphire cabs. That would be gorgeous! Maybe something like one of these, perhaps:

http://www.annmckaystudio.com/current.html

My husband is very sweet and has tried surprises like this, but what he has learned over time is that his ideas of what I'd love and mine don't always coincide!

P.S. I LOVE the rose cuts but absolutely would not want a ring with an uncut diamond!

 

[Circe]

If you consider a rough diamond...how about a colored one?

http://www.langerman-diamonds.com/shop/catalog/rough

Oh, cool - I didn't know they did rough!

OP, looks like somebody IS doing cabs - http://www.langerman-diamonds.com/shop/diamond/2611/Gray-diamond-Cabochon-903-ct-rough

... and here's a nice "pearl" diamond - http://www.langerman-diamonds.com/shop/diamond/2826/Gray-diamond-Rough-787-ct-rough_Diamond

I am now going to go and search their stock like a piglet rooting for truffles.

 

[T L]

I don't know your budget, but this seller sells beautiful rough octahedral crystals like this one.

http://cgi.ebay.com/BUY-D-VVS-ROUGH...2203803?pt=Loose_Diamonds&hash=item20b269601b

A rough diamond should be less money than a similar faceted color/clarity gem since there was no work to facet it, and no weight is lost. I think this has a beautiful crystalline appearance sort of what you're looking for, as well as purity of shape.

Spinels also grow in octahedral crystals such as diamonds, and this is an example of a spinel ring set with rough stones.

http://www.palagems.com/Images/ball_spinel_article/spinel_crystal_ring1.jpg

 

[onyxweb]

Hi All,

Thankyou so much for all your input - REALLY appreciated.

I get your point about a smooth cabochon would be a waste of a diamond, diamondseeker.

And I think rough or half rough wouldn't suit my wife who is quite ladylike, well very ladylike actually - and not just like a lady, she is a lady!

Moving on...

Petrock, I've never heard of half rose cuts - THEY are stunning! Diamonds, but simple and more demur!

Any idea where I should start looking for either a ready-made, or the right craftsmen in the UK?

Thanks again,

Bass

 

[suchende]

If you consider a rough diamond...how about a colored one?

http://www.langerman-diamonds.com/shop/catalog/rough

Oh, cool - I didn't know they did rough!

OP, looks like somebody IS doing cabs - http://www.langerman-diamonds.com/shop/diamond/2611/Gray-diamond-Cabochon-903-ct-rough

... and here's a nice "pearl" diamond - http://www.langerman-diamonds.com/shop/diamond/2826/Gray-diamond-Rough-787-ct-rough_Diamond

I am now going to go and search their stock like a piglet rooting for truffles.

I was just about to link that second one! that would look beyond lovely drilled as a bead.

 

[Dee*Jay]

Todd Reed also does gorgeous pieces: http://www.toddreed.com/

I have a Todd Reed band that I just LOVE: https://www.pricescope.com/communit...i-colored-diamond-ring.92155/?hilit=todd reed

 

[onyxweb]

Hey Petrock,

I REALLY like photos #1 & 4 that you posted.

Where did they come from from?

I think I'm getting it - its the HALF-CUT element of the stone, that gives it that less brilliant, slightly simple look; the ROSE element is the actual shape...ight?

Thanks,

B

 

[onyxweb]

er...that should have been 'right?'

B

 

[E B]

Hi onyx,

I know Singlestone (http://www.singlestone.com/index.php?page=home) uses rose cut diamonds in some of their rings. Maybe they could put something together for you?

 

[Circe]

Hey Petrock,

I REALLY like photos #1 & 4 that you posted.

Where did they come from from?

I think I'm getting it - its the HALF-CUT element of the stone, that gives it that less brilliant, slightly simple look; the ROSE element is the actual shape...ight?

Thanks,

B

D'oh - misunderstanding my fault, I think. They're just called rose-cuts - I just wanted to point out which were rose-cuts and which were rough. Sorry!

 

[Coooper]

If it were later in the year I would point you in the direction of Goldsmith's Fair in London which is just a treasure trove of beautiful little works of art (in a gorgeous building in the City which makes it even better!)


http://www.thegoldsmiths.co.uk/exhibitions-promotions/goldsmiths'-fair/

The Goldsmith's Company represents the very best designer-makers working in the UK, most of whom are happy to work to commission.

Have a look through the Goldsmith's website anyway to find out a bit more about the jewellers that it represents.

 

[coati]

More fun ideas-I like that you want to do something different for your wife. Not everyone wants a traditionally cut diamond, and there is much to explore in the world of rose cuts and alternatives.

Megan Thorne


Yasuko Azuma


Anne Sportun Big, I know, but fun all the same. Anne Sportun works in rose cuts of all qualities, and she will make custom pieces. I've seen a rose cut 3 stone ring of hers that was simple and stunning-a bezel 3 stone-sorry can't find a pic.


More Anne Sportun
Unplated 18k white gold

18k yellow


Alex Sepkus

 

[coati]

Hey Petrock,

I REALLY like photos #1 & 4 that you posted.

Where did they come from from?

I think I'm getting it - its the HALF-CUT element of the stone, that gives it that less brilliant, slightly simple look; the ROSE element is the actual shape...ight?

Thanks,

B

I believe #1 is from Kate Szabone on Etsy.

Rose cuts are essentially smooth or flat on the bottom with broad triangular facets on a domed top. All crown-no pavilion.
http://www.prijems.com/diamonds.htm

 

[petrock<3]

LFrank Jewelry

http://www.melissajoymanning.com/


for rose cut diamond rings, I'm sure there are more out there, just two I found.

The rose cut was first introduced in the early to mid 1500s by jewelers experimenting with unique geometrical diamond shapes. The rose cut is unlike any other diamond cut - it has a completely different anatomy to its facets and planes. Rose cuts are flat bottomed without the distinctive tapering body; instead, the crown of the gem is elevated in a faceted dome where triangular facets mimic the progressively tighter spiral of a rose. As the between 3 and 24 facets come together they mirror the central focal point of a rose bud and offer a unique perspective of diamond beauty.

 

[alene]

Janish Jewels on Etsy also has a few rings with both rose cut and rough diamonds.
http://www.etsy.com/shop/JanishJewels

 

[onyxweb]

You Guys are GREAT, thankyou.

Rose Cut it is.

Thanks,

Bass