telephone89|1476475369|4087152 said:Can you please find a scientific text that says a man will rape because biology tells him to?ruby59|1476475130|4087147 said:This is the exact mentality we are talking about. "boys will be boys LOL!" "Whoops I couldn't help but rape her, she had her boobies out! LOL"
Sorry, not acceptable. I hold people accountable for their actions.
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You are putting your words in my mouth.
I am not talking about mentality, but biology.
I'm quite sure you can't, because it doesn't exist.
sstephensid|1476475969|4087159 said:I can't believe what I am reading. I guess as women, we should be locked away form men. As they can't biologically help themselves. God forbid we need to be seen by a male physician, naked. They can't help themselves. We women are just asking for trouble if they need to examine our breasts or nether regions.
Forget beaches or swimming pools. They should be segregated. I mean, even the best men, most well-intentioned men cannot fight biology.
WHAT!? Ruby you are a disgrace. I know you will soon deny that is what you meant. Even using your own words, you will deny the meaning.
Edited to add: "it takes two"
Yeah ruby it takes two. One man (or woman) to sexually assault a second INNOCENT (man or woman). I want to scream and curse at this unfair world. Unfair because of people like you.
How disgustingly closed minded of you.ruby59|1476476021|4087161 said:We are not in an African tribe here in the US. Is this what you are suggesting we become comfortable with? Are you suggesting that rape or lewd discussions about female bodies among tribal men do not exist?
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In tribes where men have multiple wives and women are treated worse then livestock. Is that the comparison that is being made.
I am not denying that one can become aroused - to act on that arousal is entirely different. And yes, a 'well trained' man can override his 'wiring' and decide not to rape someone or make a lewd comment if they so choose.Matata|1476476272|4087162 said:telephone89|1476475369|4087152 said:Can you please find a scientific text that says a man will rape because biology tells him to?ruby59|1476475130|4087147 said:This is the exact mentality we are talking about. "boys will be boys LOL!" "Whoops I couldn't help but rape her, she had her boobies out! LOL"
Sorry, not acceptable. I hold people accountable for their actions.
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You are putting your words in my mouth.
I am not talking about mentality, but biology.
I'm quite sure you can't, because it doesn't exist.
Telephone, I do hope ruby and others are not suggesting that men can't control an urge to rape when they see a nice set of female breasts. But there are scientific papers written on men's sexuality that does speak to the differences in sexuality and sexual response between men and women. This one isn't a proper scientific paper but it gets its info from one. To deny the possibility that men become aroused at the sight of certain female body parts is denying their nature. http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/healthy-living/sexual-health/a2225/mens-sexual-response/
sstephensid|1476475969|4087159 said:I can't believe what I am reading. I guess as women, we should be locked away form men. As they can't biologically help themselves. God forbid we need to be seen by a male physician, naked. They can't help themselves. We women are just asking for trouble if they need to examine our breasts or nether regions.
Forget beaches or swimming pools. They should be segregated. I mean, even the best men, most well-intentioned men cannot fight biology.
WHAT!? Ruby you are a disgrace. I know you will soon deny that is what you meant. Even using your own words, you will deny the meaning.
Edited to add: "it takes two"
Yeah ruby it takes two. One man (or woman) to sexually assault a second INNOCENT (man or woman). I want to scream and curse at this unfair world. Unfair because of people like you.
Yes, walking down the street in a tank top is really "getting into a man's face".ruby59|1476476508|4087166 said:I was just going to simply ignore you like I usually do,
If you cannot understand the difference between a woman lying there under those ugly paper sheets they give you vs a woman getting into a man's face and then wondering why he reacted, then that is your problem.
monarch64|1476476276|4087163 said:sstephensid|1476475969|4087159 said:I can't believe what I am reading. I guess as women, we should be locked away form men. As they can't biologically help themselves. God forbid we need to be seen by a male physician, naked. They can't help themselves. We women are just asking for trouble if they need to examine our breasts or nether regions.
Forget beaches or swimming pools. They should be segregated. I mean, even the best men, most well-intentioned men cannot fight biology.
WHAT!? Ruby you are a disgrace. I know you will soon deny that is what you meant. Even using your own words, you will deny the meaning.
Edited to add: "it takes two"
Yeah ruby it takes two. One man (or woman) to sexually assault a second INNOCENT (man or woman). I want to scream and curse at this unfair world. Unfair because of people like you.
I'm convinced she's a troll. Looooooooves to stir that pot!
telephone89|1476476411|4087165 said:I am not denying that one can become aroused - to act on that arousal is entirely different. And yes, a 'well trained' man can override his 'wiring' and decide not to rape someone or make a lewd comment if they so choose.Matata|1476476272|4087162 said:telephone89|1476475369|4087152 said:Can you please find a scientific text that says a man will rape because biology tells him to?ruby59|1476475130|4087147 said:This is the exact mentality we are talking about. "boys will be boys LOL!" "Whoops I couldn't help but rape her, she had her boobies out! LOL"
Sorry, not acceptable. I hold people accountable for their actions.
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You are putting your words in my mouth.
I am not talking about mentality, but biology.
I'm quite sure you can't, because it doesn't exist.
Telephone, I do hope ruby and others are not suggesting that men can't control an urge to rape when they see a nice set of female breasts. But there are scientific papers written on men's sexuality that does speak to the differences in sexuality and sexual response between men and women. This one isn't a proper scientific paper but it gets its info from one. To deny the possibility that men become aroused at the sight of certain female body parts is denying their nature. http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/healthy-living/sexual-health/a2225/mens-sexual-response/
Biology doesn't control someones mouth or what comes out of it.
telephone89|1476476324|4087164 said:How disgustingly closed minded of you.ruby59|1476476021|4087161 said:We are not in an African tribe here in the US. Is this what you are suggesting we become comfortable with? Are you suggesting that rape or lewd discussions about female bodies among tribal men do not exist?
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In tribes where men have multiple wives and women are treated worse then livestock. Is that the comparison that is being made.
redwood66|1476476732|4087170 said:monarch64|1476476276|4087163 said:sstephensid|1476475969|4087159 said:I can't believe what I am reading. I guess as women, we should be locked away form men. As they can't biologically help themselves. God forbid we need to be seen by a male physician, naked. They can't help themselves. We women are just asking for trouble if they need to examine our breasts or nether regions.
Forget beaches or swimming pools. They should be segregated. I mean, even the best men, most well-intentioned men cannot fight biology.
WHAT!? Ruby you are a disgrace. I know you will soon deny that is what you meant. Even using your own words, you will deny the meaning.
Edited to add: "it takes two"
Yeah ruby it takes two. One man (or woman) to sexually assault a second INNOCENT (man or woman). I want to scream and curse at this unfair world. Unfair because of people like you.
I'm convinced she's a troll. Looooooooves to stir that pot!
Does that make me a troll too?
redwood66|1476476732|4087170 said:monarch64|1476476276|4087163 said:sstephensid|1476475969|4087159 said:I can't believe what I am reading. I guess as women, we should be locked away form men. As they can't biologically help themselves. God forbid we need to be seen by a male physician, naked. They can't help themselves. We women are just asking for trouble if they need to examine our breasts or nether regions.
Forget beaches or swimming pools. They should be segregated. I mean, even the best men, most well-intentioned men cannot fight biology.
WHAT!? Ruby you are a disgrace. I know you will soon deny that is what you meant. Even using your own words, you will deny the meaning.
Edited to add: "it takes two"
Yeah ruby it takes two. One man (or woman) to sexually assault a second INNOCENT (man or woman). I want to scream and curse at this unfair world. Unfair because of people like you.
I'm convinced she's a troll. Looooooooves to stir that pot!
Does that make me a troll too?
Automatically assuming a community who is nude = community who trades women for livestock. Its a sad jump to conclusions that THAT is who I meant. Or automatically assuming African community = community who trades women for livestock.ruby59|1476476768|4087172 said:telephone89|1476476324|4087164 said:How disgustingly closed minded of you.ruby59|1476476021|4087161 said:We are not in an African tribe here in the US. Is this what you are suggesting we become comfortable with? Are you suggesting that rape or lewd discussions about female bodies among tribal men do not exist?
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In tribes where men have multiple wives and women are treated worse then livestock. Is that the comparison that is being made.
So you are saying that this does not occur in any of the African tribes?
So who has the closed mind now?
https://www.polygamy.com/articles/89746509/polygamy-in-africa
telephone89|1476476689|4087169 said:Yes, walking down the street in a tank top is really "getting into a man's face".ruby59|1476476508|4087166 said:I was just going to simply ignore you like I usually do,
If you cannot understand the difference between a woman lying there under those ugly paper sheets they give you vs a woman getting into a man's face and then wondering why he reacted, then that is your problem.
Disgusting.
ruby59|1476476508|4087166 said:sstephensid|1476475969|4087159 said:I can't believe what I am reading. I guess as women, we should be locked away form men. As they can't biologically help themselves. God forbid we need to be seen by a male physician, naked. They can't help themselves. We women are just asking for trouble if they need to examine our breasts or nether regions.
Forget beaches or swimming pools. They should be segregated. I mean, even the best men, most well-intentioned men cannot fight biology.
WHAT!? Ruby you are a disgrace. I know you will soon deny that is what you meant. Even using your own words, you will deny the meaning.
Edited to add: "it takes two"
Yeah ruby it takes two. One man (or woman) to sexually assault a second INNOCENT (man or woman). I want to scream and curse at this unfair world. Unfair because of people like you.
I was just going to simply ignore you like I usually do,
If you cannot understand the difference between a woman lying there under those ugly paper sheets they give you vs a woman getting into a man's face and then wondering why he reacted, then that is your problem.
telephone89|1476476970|4087176 said:Automatically assuming a community who is nude = community who trades women for livestock. Its a sad jump to conclusions that THAT is who I meant. Or automatically assuming African community = community who trades women for livestock.ruby59|1476476768|4087172 said:telephone89|1476476324|4087164 said:How disgustingly closed minded of you.ruby59|1476476021|4087161 said:We are not in an African tribe here in the US. Is this what you are suggesting we become comfortable with? Are you suggesting that rape or lewd discussions about female bodies among tribal men do not exist?
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In tribes where men have multiple wives and women are treated worse then livestock. Is that the comparison that is being made.
So you are saying that this does not occur in any of the African tribes?
So who has the closed mind now?
https://www.polygamy.com/articles/89746509/polygamy-in-africa
Africa is composed of 50+ countries, do you think they all do this?
So a woman, in a club, grinding on a man. She is wearing a short skirt and a bra top. She deserves to get raped? What?ruby59|1476477026|4087178 said:You are picking mild scenarios I am not referring to and you know it.
Go to a club and see what I mean.
telephone89|1476477171|4087182 said:So a woman, in a club, grinding on a man. She is wearing a short skirt and a bra top. She deserves to get raped? What?ruby59|1476477026|4087178 said:You are picking mild scenarios I am not referring to and you know it.
Go to a club and see what I mean.
vs a woman, in a bakery, buying bread, in jeans. She *doesn't* deserve to get raped?
How does this make any difference?
Matata|1476475277|4087150 said:telephone89|1476472571|4087118 said:But redwood - you are blaming the woman for enticing the man to say something.
A woman SHOULD be able to wear whatever she wants, and not have men make disgusting comments about her. Why is it the womans responsibility to police a mans brain? Why don't we instead teach our men to be respectful and not make comments about women - whether theyre wearing a burka, a bikini or nothing at all?
Because we have yet to raise a few generations of youth who have not been brainwashed into sexualizing women and reducing them to their parts. Kim Kardashian and Amber Rose, who are allegedly trying to lead a movement against "slut shaming", are not catering to hetero women who want to be respected. They are peddling their sexuality to hetero men because they realize that sex sells. Think of how many advertisements have beautiful young women with gorgeous bodies in them. These women are making money off their sex appeal. So when women begin boycotting their role as sexual objects to sell water, cars, toothpaste, whatever, and when we do a better job raising boys to see women as more than sexual objects, then we'll have accomplished something good. Until then, women and men share the blame. Women can't be willing participants in sexual objectification and abdicate total responsibility for their plight.
redwood66|1476477698|4087186 said:Matata|1476475277|4087150 said:telephone89|1476472571|4087118 said:But redwood - you are blaming the woman for enticing the man to say something.
A woman SHOULD be able to wear whatever she wants, and not have men make disgusting comments about her. Why is it the womans responsibility to police a mans brain? Why don't we instead teach our men to be respectful and not make comments about women - whether theyre wearing a burka, a bikini or nothing at all?
Because we have yet to raise a few generations of youth who have not been brainwashed into sexualizing women and reducing them to their parts. Kim Kardashian and Amber Rose, who are allegedly trying to lead a movement against "slut shaming", are not catering to hetero women who want to be respected. They are peddling their sexuality to hetero men because they realize that sex sells. Think of how many advertisements have beautiful young women with gorgeous bodies in them. These women are making money off their sex appeal. So when women begin boycotting their role as sexual objects to sell water, cars, toothpaste, whatever, and when we do a better job raising boys to see women as more than sexual objects, then we'll have accomplished something good. Until then, women and men share the blame. Women can't be willing participants in sexual objectification and abdicate total responsibility for their plight.
This entire post is exactly what I was talking about in the first place. Thank you Matata.
When people say 'they can't help it' it doesn't matter if its rape or lewd comments. Its still a choice, and is not biological.redwood66|1476477533|4087184 said:telephone89|1476477171|4087182 said:So a woman, in a club, grinding on a man. She is wearing a short skirt and a bra top. She deserves to get raped? What?ruby59|1476477026|4087178 said:You are picking mild scenarios I am not referring to and you know it.
Go to a club and see what I mean.
vs a woman, in a bakery, buying bread, in jeans. She *doesn't* deserve to get raped?
How does this make any difference?
And this is a jump to rape from the original discussion of disgusting comments. Rape is a crime and never ok under any circumstances.
monarch64|1476476799|4087173 said:redwood66|1476476732|4087170 said:monarch64|1476476276|4087163 said:sstephensid|1476475969|4087159 said:I can't believe what I am reading. I guess as women, we should be locked away form men. As they can't biologically help themselves. God forbid we need to be seen by a male physician, naked. They can't help themselves. We women are just asking for trouble if they need to examine our breasts or nether regions.
Forget beaches or swimming pools. They should be segregated. I mean, even the best men, most well-intentioned men cannot fight biology.
WHAT!? Ruby you are a disgrace. I know you will soon deny that is what you meant. Even using your own words, you will deny the meaning.
Edited to add: "it takes two"
Yeah ruby it takes two. One man (or woman) to sexually assault a second INNOCENT (man or woman). I want to scream and curse at this unfair world. Unfair because of people like you.
I'm convinced she's a troll. Looooooooves to stir that pot!
Does that make me a troll too?
Nah. I appreciate your intellect. You actually think about things on a critical level and don't just spout off your indoctrinated beliefs.
telephone89|1476477934|4087188 said:When people say 'they can't help it' it doesn't matter if its rape or lewd comments. Its still a choice, and is not biological.redwood66|1476477533|4087184 said:telephone89|1476477171|4087182 said:So a woman, in a club, grinding on a man. She is wearing a short skirt and a bra top. She deserves to get raped? What?ruby59|1476477026|4087178 said:You are picking mild scenarios I am not referring to and you know it.
Go to a club and see what I mean.
vs a woman, in a bakery, buying bread, in jeans. She *doesn't* deserve to get raped?
How does this make any difference?
And this is a jump to rape from the original discussion of disgusting comments. Rape is a crime and never ok under any circumstances.