As if this is shocking, Kim Kardashian files for divorce

[Autumnovember]

Does anyone else think it's wrong to write a check to charity in lieu of returning the wedding gifts they received?

Yes, she should return the gifts.

I am just wondering how anyone buys this whole fiasco considering this is her 2nd marriage.......

I don't think this being her second marriage would make me second guess the legitimacy of the marriage at all....


How many people do you know are married now for the 2nd time around? Their marriage NOW isn't any less legit...is it?

No, but a second marriage that occurs in conjunction with the filming of a tv show is not legit.

So how about the bachelor or the bachelorette?

Ryan and Trista, are those their names? They were on a reality show, got married on TV, and are still married....that's not legit either?

 

[iugurl]

Me having my opinion regarding the topic doesn't mean that I don't think a lot of reality shows are fake, CLEARLY, I know that...and I say that from "inside" the industry too....I've done "reality" TV.

Your opinion doesn't upset me. I find it fascinating (and lucrative) that SO MANY PEOPLE apparently believe. So, since you've seen behind the curtain -- seriously, you really think Kim's wedding was legit? Or is it just willfull blindness because you have some affinity for her or relate to her/admire her in some way?

Ok, good. I was just making sure.

I'm not sure why I think it's legit...I still can't put my finger on it.

More than anything, I feel bad for her because no matter how much money she has on her account she seems lonely as hell and *maybe* that is why I thought it was real. I definitely don't relate to her on any level, so that can't be it....and I don't really admire her either....so that's out.

I agree! She seems lonely and desperate! I really think she wants to have a family!

 

[y2kitty]

Does anyone else think it's wrong to write a check to charity in lieu of returning the wedding gifts they received?

Yes, she should return the gifts.

I am just wondering how anyone buys this whole fiasco considering this is her 2nd marriage.......

I don't think this being her second marriage would make me second guess the legitimacy of the marriage at all....


How many people do you know are married now for the 2nd time around? Their marriage NOW isn't any less legit...is it?

No, but a second marriage that occurs in conjunction with the filming of a tv show is not legit.

So how about the bachelor or the bachelorette?

Ryan and Trista, are those their names? They were on a reality show, got married on TV, and are still married....that's not legit either?

They weren't reality stars already who needed a plot line for their show. They were normal people (supposedly, and I think so since they are so quiet now) who went on tv to find love. They were not famous first.

 

[Autumnovember]

Does anyone else think it's wrong to write a check to charity in lieu of returning the wedding gifts they received?

Yes, she should return the gifts.

I am just wondering how anyone buys this whole fiasco considering this is her 2nd marriage.......

I don't think this being her second marriage would make me second guess the legitimacy of the marriage at all....


How many people do you know are married now for the 2nd time around? Their marriage NOW isn't any less legit...is it?

No, but a second marriage that occurs in conjunction with the filming of a tv show is not legit.

So how about the bachelor or the bachelorette?

Ryan and Trista, are those their names? They were on a reality show, got married on TV, and are still married....that's not legit either?

They weren't reality stars already who needed a plot line for their show. They were normal people (supposedly, and I think so since they are so quiet now) who went on tv to find love. They were not famous first.

Ok but my point is that there are and have been celebrities who have had their weddings filmed for TV/have a reality show and they are still married/it wasn't just for the show.

 

[y2kitty]

Does anyone else think it's wrong to write a check to charity in lieu of returning the wedding gifts they received?

Yes, she should return the gifts.

I am just wondering how anyone buys this whole fiasco considering this is her 2nd marriage.......

I don't think this being her second marriage would make me second guess the legitimacy of the marriage at all....


How many people do you know are married now for the 2nd time around? Their marriage NOW isn't any less legit...is it?

No, but a second marriage that occurs in conjunction with the filming of a tv show is not legit.

So how about the bachelor or the bachelorette?

Ryan and Trista, are those their names? They were on a reality show, got married on TV, and are still married....that's not legit either?

They weren't reality stars already who needed a plot line for their show. They were normal people (supposedly, and I think so since they are so quiet now) who went on tv to find love. They were not famous first.

Ok but my point is that there are and have been celebrities who have had their weddings filmed for TV/have a reality show and they are still married/it wasn't just for the show.

Those people aren't master publicity whores like the Kardashians.

 

[Autumnovember]

Does anyone else think it's wrong to write a check to charity in lieu of returning the wedding gifts they received?

Yes, she should return the gifts.

I am just wondering how anyone buys this whole fiasco considering this is her 2nd marriage.......

I don't think this being her second marriage would make me second guess the legitimacy of the marriage at all....


How many people do you know are married now for the 2nd time around? Their marriage NOW isn't any less legit...is it?

No, but a second marriage that occurs in conjunction with the filming of a tv show is not legit.

So how about the bachelor or the bachelorette?

Ryan and Trista, are those their names? They were on a reality show, got married on TV, and are still married....that's not legit either?

They weren't reality stars already who needed a plot line for their show. They were normal people (supposedly, and I think so since they are so quiet now) who went on tv to find love. They were not famous first.

Ok but my point is that there are and have been celebrities who have had their weddings filmed for TV/have a reality show and they are still married/it wasn't just for the show.

Those people aren't master publicity whores like the Kardashians.

How do you know if they aren't?

 

[y2kitty]

Does anyone else think it's wrong to write a check to charity in lieu of returning the wedding gifts they received?

Yes, she should return the gifts.

I am just wondering how anyone buys this whole fiasco considering this is her 2nd marriage.......

I don't think this being her second marriage would make me second guess the legitimacy of the marriage at all....


How many people do you know are married now for the 2nd time around? Their marriage NOW isn't any less legit...is it?

No, but a second marriage that occurs in conjunction with the filming of a tv show is not legit.

So how about the bachelor or the bachelorette?

Ryan and Trista, are those their names? They were on a reality show, got married on TV, and are still married....that's not legit either?

They weren't reality stars already who needed a plot line for their show. They were normal people (supposedly, and I think so since they are so quiet now) who went on tv to find love. They were not famous first.

Ok but my point is that there are and have been celebrities who have had their weddings filmed for TV/have a reality show and they are still married/it wasn't just for the show.

Those people aren't master publicity whores like the Kardashians.

How do you know if they aren't?

We could go back and forth about this all night.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpZORxFydvY

 

[Autumnovember]

Does anyone else think it's wrong to write a check to charity in lieu of returning the wedding gifts they received?

Yes, she should return the gifts.

I am just wondering how anyone buys this whole fiasco considering this is her 2nd marriage.......

I don't think this being her second marriage would make me second guess the legitimacy of the marriage at all....


How many people do you know are married now for the 2nd time around? Their marriage NOW isn't any less legit...is it?

No, but a second marriage that occurs in conjunction with the filming of a tv show is not legit.

So how about the bachelor or the bachelorette?

Ryan and Trista, are those their names? They were on a reality show, got married on TV, and are still married....that's not legit either?

They weren't reality stars already who needed a plot line for their show. They were normal people (supposedly, and I think so since they are so quiet now) who went on tv to find love. They were not famous first.

Ok but my point is that there are and have been celebrities who have had their weddings filmed for TV/have a reality show and they are still married/it wasn't just for the show.

Those people aren't master publicity whores like the Kardashians.

How do you know if they aren't?

We could go back and forth about this all night.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpZORxFydvY

Funny!! Thanks so much for mocking me, too!

Oh and thank you so much for answering my question (not!)

Accept that there is no concrete facts about anything one way or another.

 

[y2kitty]

How am *I* mocking *you*? I like you. As I recall you just got married and I think that influences how you see the situation since you are probably happily married for love.

So, to answer your question, how do I know other celebrities who sell pictures to magazines or have their weddings video taped are not as massive publicity whores as the Kardashians? Well, what have we seen on their tv shows? Them at the gynecologist, one sister waxing the other's vagina in the kitchin sink while the waxer's boyfriend and child look on, xrays of a hiney, talk of sex tapes and sexual intercourse in front of minor children, conspicuous consumerism. I can't think of any other celebrities who have done as many stunts that appeal to the lowest common denominator. They will do anything for publicity. That is the difference.

 

[Autumnovember]

How am *I* mocking *you*? I like you. As I recall you just got married and I think that influences how you see the situation since you are probably happily married for love.

So, to answer your question, how do I know other celebrities who sell pictures to magazines or have their weddings video taped are not as massive publicity whores as the Kardashians? Well, what have we seen on their tv shows? Them at the gynecologist, one sister waxing the other's vagina in the kitchin sink while the waxer's boyfriend and child look on, xrays of a hiney, talk of sex tapes and sexual intercourse in front of minor children, conspicuous consumerism. I can't think of any other celebrities who have done as many stunts that appeal to the lowest common denominator. They will do anything for publicity. That is the difference.

You gave me a video of a man talking to a brick wall lol.

Just because I disagree with something/ask you more questions doesn't mean I don't like you....I speak my mind in a thread and I rarely ever leave disliking someone...this thread included.

It definitely may influence my thoughts on it...who knows.

Thank you for answering my question. I don't have much to say back because there is no arguing/debating the stupid things they do.

 

[y2kitty]

Well, I can agree that unless dancing fire is really Bruce Jenner, none of us will *really* know the truth, though I think it was all a money making scheme from the start. Others may disagree with that. Best of luck to Kim as she stars in 8000 more tabloid covers looking for love!

 

[zoebartlett]

Does anyone else think it's wrong to write a check to charity in lieu of returning the wedding gifts they received?

Depends how you look at it. A lot of the people present were big name celebrity stars, I'm willing to bet half of them don't mind that the money is going to charity and they would support her choice to do so.

I see what you mean, but to me, those don't match up. I don't see how writing a check to charity makes up for keeping wedding gifts when the marriage lasted such a short amount of time. I'm sure their guests probably don't give it a second thought. It just seems odd to me. But anyway...

 

[Lottie]

"This is probably the hardest thing I’ve ever had to write. I see all of the support and I am so thankful for my fans, friends and family who are helping me through this difficult time.

I am trying not to read all the different media reports but it’s hard not to see all the negative ones. First and foremost, I married for love. I can’t believe I even have to defend this. I would not have spent so much time on something just for a TV show! I share so much of my life on a reality show, that contemplating whether to even film my wedding was a tough decision to make, and maybe it turned out to not be the smartest decision. But it’s who I am! We filmed Kourtney giving birth, Khloe getting married, break ups, make ups, our best moments and our worst moments. These were all real moments. That’s what makes us who we are. We share, we give, we love and we are open!
Everyone that knows me knows that I’m a hopeless romantic! I love with all of my heart and soul. I want a family and babies and a real life so badly that maybe I rushed in to something too soon. I believed in love and the dream of what I wanted so badly. I felt like I was on a fast roller coaster and couldn’t get off when now I know I probably should have. I got caught up with the hoopla and the filming of the TV show that when I probably should have ended my relationship, I didn’t know how to and didn’t want to disappoint a lot of people.

I’m being honest here and I hope you respect my courage because this isn’t easy to go through. But I do know that I have to follow my heart. I never had the intention of hurting anybody and I accept full responsibility for my actions and decisions, and for taking everyone on this journey with me. It just didn’t turn out to be the fairy tale I had so badly hoped for.

There are also reports that I made millions of dollars off of the wedding. These reports are simply not true and it makes me so sad to have to even clarify this. I’m so grateful to everyone who took the time to come to my wedding and I’ll be donating the money for all the gifts to the Dream Foundation.

I’m sorry if I have hurt anyone, but my dad always told me to follow my heart and I believe now that I really am."

blog post from Kim K...

I haven't read all of this post, whatever I think about the marriage lasting such short amount of time, the bolded on this blog post sums up the dillusional nature of many celebrities at the moment including the Kardashians.

Money - they are not sharing and loving or giving these experiences to the viewers. They sold them, they sold the viewing rights to their weddings, births and many intimate moments and will continue to do so until the cash cow finds someone more interesting/vacuous. I suspect that the network, knowing what a huge deal it would be for the viewing figures put a lot of pressure on Kim for a big wedding asap.

If the whole family is so intent on selling everything, making as much money as possible from themselves/their children/siblings then where is the person who says "hang on a minute, you need to have a think about this"?

 

[decodelighted]

If the whole family is so intent on selling everything, making as much money as possible from themselves/their children/siblings then where is the person who says "hang on a minute, you need to have a think about this"?

Apparently that person doesn't exist .... as they SURELY would have also said: "Do not steal" .... http://fashionista.com/2011/11/adve...ke-a-lot-of-other-bags-ysl-balenciaga-celine/

Like I said: GRIFTERS.

 

[Lottie]

If the whole family is so intent on selling everything, making as much money as possible from themselves/their children/siblings then where is the person who says "hang on a minute, you need to have a think about this"?

Apparently that person doesn't exist .... as they SURELY would have also said: "Do not steal" .... http://fashionista.com/2011/11/adve...ke-a-lot-of-other-bags-ysl-balenciaga-celine/

Like I said: GRIFTERS.

The Kardishian-no-really-nothing-like-a-Balenciaga-honest-bag is SUCH an obvious copy! I think a no tolerance cease and desist action from all of the copied fashion houses at once should put paid to her attempts at 'design'.

 

[Loves Vintage]

No comment on the marriage or the divorce, really. What is up with her eye lashes, though? I just saw some pictures on HuffPo this morning.

 

[Asscherhalo_lover]

Honestly she's such a perfectionist I'm really surprised they are divorcing this quickly! It must be so embarrassing for her and her family! You would think they would have stuck it out for awhile and tried to work on it, has it been less than a year from when they started dating till they divorced? That's impressive!

I don't think she's a perfectionist. If she was she would have made sure not to make a sex tape with an ugly guy (or any guy) if she was a perfectionist she would have made sure that she knew a guy before she married him.

She's a good opportunist. But please lets all remember why this woman got famous in the first place. I don't watch any of her shows and I don't buy any of her products. This is as much as attention that I will give her.

WORD.

There's a world of difference when your in your early 20's and do something stupid with a boyfriend than when your 30. If you look at how she presents herself even in her show and ever hear anything her family says about her, she is a perfectionist. Did you ever see her in her new house? She was worried at her house warming party that people would make a mess and was cleaning up around them. She probably made that tape because she was trying to make her boyfriend happy and be the "perfect" girlfriend. She wants to be viewed as perfect, maybe she's finally realizing that it isn't working for her.

 

[bee*]

Does anyone else think it's wrong to write a check to charity in lieu of returning the wedding gifts they received?

Depends how you look at it. A lot of the people present were big name celebrity stars, I'm willing to bet half of them don't mind that the money is going to charity and they would support her choice to do so.

I see what you mean, but to me, those don't match up. I don't see how writing a check to charity makes up for keeping wedding gifts when the marriage lasted such a short amount of time. I'm sure their guests probably don't give it a second thought. It just seems odd to me. But anyway...

I agree Zoe. Personally I would have respected her so much more if she had told guests to make a donation to charity in the first place. It's not like she needs thousands of dollars worth of gifts. The whole family just disgust me and I hope that this is the beginning of the end for them.

 

[Bliss]

It's surprising how polarizing this topic can be! I remember Kim Kardashian becoming famous when she was club & party hopping with her best bud Paris Hilton. That's when I first started to notice her in the magazines because they were always photographed together. Also, Kim is very beautiful and photogenic, so she began to get more attention in her own right.

I feel badly for Kim because she seems lonely. I'm sure it isn't easy for her to be single when both of her sisters are in LTRs. One's married and the other has a baby. She has voiced before how she is looking for love and how lonely her life is. I feel badly for her because she has such an overbearing & seemingly money hungry mother. She treats her kids (at least from what I have seen) as cash cows. We see the glitzy life she leads with designer this and that, but she does work a lot & I am sure that gets in the way of a personal life. It isn't a picnic being a celebrity, I am sure.

Anyway, my friend was in a similar situation in that she had planned an insane wedding and felt she couldn't back out because of all the money spent, people invited and "shame" factor. Less than a year later, she has a beautiful baby and a divorce. At least Kim didn't involve a child in a union she didn't feel was right to begin with. I can't imagine that she is enjoying any of the fallout, though. It has to be humiliating and hard to bear. I have never been divorced, but people say it's really a terrible, gut wrenching experience.

 

[decodelighted]

I have never been divorced, but people say it's really a terrible, gut wrenching experience.

I have never had a faux arranged wedding with a husband straight out of central casting, but I'm guessing the previously scheduled divorce is an emotional and financial breeze!

 

[Autumnovember]

Latest news:

"Diamonds are a girl's best friend, especially for Kim Kardashian since diamonds might be her only friend right now.

In her prenup with Kris Humphries, Kim included a clause that, in case of a divorce, she would be allowed to buy the 20.5 carat diamond ring back from him for its original price.

The original price being somewhere around $2 million!!

And looks Kim will be doing just that to keep the gorgeous piece of jewelry, which is it a big ironic because if she kept the clause out of the prenup, she would have still been able to keep the ring FOR FREE by law.

Yes, it's a beautiful ring, but why would she want to keep something that just reminds her of her failed, short-lived marriage??

Seems a little odd to us."

 

[Lottie]

I wonder if he surprised her with the ring or if she chose it with him - its possible he only agreed to buy her the ring (or rather the network wanted a huge, rating grabbing ring to add to the circus) if that clause was put in the pre nup.

 

[Bliss]

I have never been divorced, but people say it's really a terrible, gut wrenching experience.

I have never had a faux arranged wedding with a husband straight out of central casting, but I'm guessing the previously scheduled divorce is an emotional and financial breeze!

THAT WAS A REAL WEDDING!!!!! LOL - if she were getting a husband out of central casting, couldn't she have found a star athlete and not a bench warmer? I mean, she used to date Reggie Bush! She needs to fire her casting director (Mom)!

 

[mrscushion]

The original price being somewhere around $2 million!!

I really do not believe that Kris Humphries paid $2 million for that ring. They must have gotten a deal far better than that, which I would guess is why she wants to keep it in the first place.

And as for why she didn't just stay silent on the issue and not mention it in the prenup at all ... perhaps because she wouldn't want a possible (public) battle over who gets to keep it or not because that might (gasp! imagine) make her sound like she's in it for the money.

 

[Autumnovember]

More news:

Apparently Kim is flying out to Minnesota to meet with Kris and the minister who married the two, without cameras. OooOooO.

 

[Lottie]

Is that to tell the minister he has been Pranked?

 

[decodelighted]

More news:
Apparently Kim is flying out to Minnesota to meet with Kris and the minister who married the two, without cameras. OooOooO.

Saving. Face. The grifters realized it wasn't looking so realistic for Kim to jet straight to a foreign country to pimp her Knockoff Kollection and that the public was turning against them all soooooooooooo - what would "Normal" people do? What are people scolding her for not doing first: COUNSELING. Enter Mr. Minister blah blah. HILARZBALLZ. And sure, sure -- without cameras. But not SECRETLY. If it's already all over the web.

 

[bee*]

More news:
Apparently Kim is flying out to Minnesota to meet with Kris and the minister who married the two, without cameras. OooOooO.

Saving. Face. The grifters realized it wasn't looking so realistic for Kim to jet straight to a foreign country to pimp her Knockoff Kollection and that the public was turning against them all soooooooooooo - what would "Normal" people do? What are people scolding her for not doing first: COUNSELING. Enter Mr. Minister blah blah. HILARZBALLZ. And sure, sure -- without cameras. But not SECRETLY. If it's already all over the web.

I totally agree Deco. The same with the ring- I really doubt that there is a clause in the prenup saying that she has to buy the ring. They've seen the reaction of the public and are changing the storyline as they go along.

 

[decodelighted]

More news:
Apparently Kim is flying out to Minnesota to meet with Kris and the minister who married the two, without cameras. OooOooO.

Saving. Face. The grifters realized it wasn't looking so realistic for Kim to jet straight to a foreign country to pimp her Knockoff Kollection and that the public was turning against them all soooooooooooo - what would "Normal" people do? What are people scolding her for not doing first: COUNSELING. Enter Mr. Minister blah blah. HILARZBALLZ. And sure, sure -- without cameras. But not SECRETLY. If it's already all over the web.

I totally agree Deco. The same with the ring- I really doubt that there is a clause in the prenup saying that she has to buy the ring. They've seen the reaction of the public and are changing the storyline as they go along.

TOTES! Kris Jenner was JUST saying she doesn't like "indian givers" the other day when explaining why Kris should let Kim keep the ring. And now this?

 

[allycat0303]

I bet you they are debating what's better for the public image:

a) Pretend to get counselling now that there's a backlash, and prove it's all about the public image
b) Continue with the divorce and suffer through the fallout

I think she's done with either way. The timing of her visit smacks of the desire to *prove this was a real marriage*. Her visit to her ex-husband is all over the web within seconds. Sounds perfectly contrived to me.