We have had 1 good day in the market since Obama was elected

[iheartscience]

Date: 11/20/2008 6:07:17 PM
Author: panda08

Date: 11/20/2008 6:00:40 PM

Author: decodelighted

Date: 11/20/2008 5:56:24 PM

Author: thing2of2

Sweet jesus-this thread is a laugh riot! Below, the condensed version:

Republicans: IT''S ALL OBAMA''S FAULT! HE''S THE WORST IN THE WORLD AND HE''S RUINING MY LIFE EVEN THOUGH HE''S NOT THE PRESIDENT YET!

Democrats: Let''s not get crazy-Obama''s not even the president yet-how can you blame the economy on him?

Republicans: OH OF COURSE YOU''LL DEFEND YOUR MESSIAH, YOU HUGO CHAVEZ LOVING COMMIES! YOU''RE ALL FANBOYS. STOP IT WITH YOUR PERSONAL ATTACKS AGAINST US FOR NOT LOVING OBAMA!

The End.

How could you leave out the smoking gun ... the climax ... the moment of truth ... the most stinging retort of all: ''OMG! Gimmie a break!''

LOL! love the cliff notes version!

*Takes a bow.*

 

[Dancing Fire]

Date: 11/20/2008 3:51:43 PM
Author: stone_seeker

Date: 11/20/2008 3:31:04 PM
Author: tradergirl
Z: one hallmark of the Obama supporters I have seen throughout the year was the quick personal attack on anyone who dared question his holiness.

You can say what you want but da fax is da fax. The market has crashed since he was elected. End of story.

Thank you. Obama is a guy who when campaigning was out every day blaming other people when things were going wrong. He may not technically be president yet, but what happens now IS on his watch. Where are his ideas? Where is the leadership?

To my original point - the markets dont like whats to come. We are pricing in some serious reductions in cash flows. Bush made them bad - but Obama''s policies are making them worse. And if he is going to modify some of them, he should be speaking to the people rather than let the market crash every day. I guess he''s too busy hiring Clinton retreads and being a typical politician.

But as you said, god forbid someone implies obama isnt perfect.

one thing we know for sure "all politicians lie" to get elected. now that Obama has been elected i don''t think he will raise taxes on business in the near future.

 

[beebrisk]

Date: 11/20/2008 2:02:35 PM
Author:stone_seeker
Coincidence? I think not.


Obama supporters willl say this is all Bush''s fault and I agree much of it is. But this has been the worst post-election market result in US history. We should have seen some bounce if the future - even if its a few years away - will be brighter under Obama.


I think Obama needs to speak to people about some of his anti-growth policies which are scaring investors to death. 1) His stance on unions needs a rapid change - it will crush corporate profits; 2) taxing the only people who have any money left is not a good idea right now. He can put that off until things stabilize. 3) His stance on free trade should be modified. We dont need protectionism right now.


I think if he said these things, and perhaps tossed americans a bone by lowering cap gains and encouraging investment, we might have a chance in our 401Ks and retirement accounts next year.

Hmmmm, let''s see.

Increasing capital gains? Check.
Nationalizing 401k''s? Check.
Healthcare for all? Check.
Expiration of Bush''s tax cuts in 2010? Check.

Yup, I''d say even if the new administration had nothing to do with the krapper we''re in now (but let''s not discuss Barney Franks and friends...) they''ve got some mighty interesting plans to finish us off once and for all!

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 11/20/2008 5:56:24 PM
Author: thing2of2
Sweet jesus-this thread is a laugh riot! Below, the condensed version:


Republicans: IT''S ALL OBAMA''S FAULT! HE''S THE WORST IN THE WORLD AND HE''S RUINING MY LIFE EVEN THOUGH HE''S NOT THE PRESIDENT YET!


Democrats: Let''s not get crazy-Obama''s not even the president yet-how can you blame the economy on him?


Republicans: OH OF COURSE YOU''LL DEFEND YOUR MESSIAH, YOU HUGO CHAVEZ LOVING COMMIES! YOU''RE ALL FANBOYS. STOP IT WITH YOUR PERSONAL ATTACKS AGAINST US FOR NOT LOVING OBAMA!


The End.

Hey ya calling me a Democrat now that is the personal attack of the year! Rofl

 

[zhuzhu]

For those of you who are so hateful and fearful of what''s to come, why don''t you pack up and move to a different country and leave the rest of us in peace ?

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 11/20/2008 7:01:24 PM
Author: zhuzhu
For those of you who are so hateful and fearful of what''s to come, why don''t you pack up and move to a different country and leave the rest of us in peace ?

because the socialists have ruined every other country on earth so I guess we will have to fight for this one.

Besides these colors don''t run!

 

[beebrisk]

Date: 11/20/2008 7:01:24 PM
Author: zhuzhu
For those of you who are so hateful and fearful of what''s to come, why don''t you pack up and move to a different country and leave the rest of us in peace ?

Perfect!

That might be the single best example of "tolerance", "open mindedness" and "inclusionary" values I''ve yet to see here on PS.

There you have it folks...it doesn''t get better!

Thanks for that!

 

[iheartscience]

Date: 11/20/2008 7:01:18 PM
Author: strmrdr

Date: 11/20/2008 5:56:24 PM

Author: thing2of2

Sweet jesus-this thread is a laugh riot! Below, the condensed version:

Republicans: IT''S ALL OBAMA''S FAULT! HE''S THE WORST IN THE WORLD AND HE''S RUINING MY LIFE EVEN THOUGH HE''S NOT THE PRESIDENT YET!

Democrats: Let''s not get crazy-Obama''s not even the president yet-how can you blame the economy on him?

Republicans: OH OF COURSE YOU''LL DEFEND YOUR MESSIAH, YOU HUGO CHAVEZ LOVING COMMIES! YOU''RE ALL FANBOYS. STOP IT WITH YOUR PERSONAL ATTACKS AGAINST US FOR NOT LOVING OBAMA!

The End.

Hey ya calling me a Democrat now that is the personal attack of the year! Rofl

Hahaha! You know what, strm? I think that in your heart of hearts you''re a wee bit Democrat!

 

[beebrisk]

Date: 11/20/2008 7:07:10 PM
Author: strmrdr

Date: 11/20/2008 7:01:24 PM

Author: zhuzhu

For those of you who are so hateful and fearful of what''s to come, why don''t you pack up and move to a different country and leave the rest of us in peace ?

because the socialists have ruined every other country on earth so I guess we will have to fight for this one.


Besides these colors don''t run!

Amen brother, AMEN!

 

[iheartscience]

Date: 11/20/2008 7:01:24 PM
Author: zhuzhu
For those of you who are so hateful and fearful of what''s to come, why don''t you pack up and move to a different country and leave the rest of us in peace ?

Or the red states could just secede and start the REAL United States of America! And Palin would be Prez, natch!

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 11/20/2008 7:08:21 PM
Author: thing2of2


Hahaha! You know what, strm? I think that in your heart of hearts you're a wee bit Democrat!

low blow!
ouch!
rofl

Democrats ain't that bad well except for the anti-gun thing, tax and spend thing and the forced redistribution of money thing.

edit: wait isn't that the same thing the republicans do? it gets so confusing lol.

 

[iheartscience]

Date: 11/20/2008 7:11:58 PM
Author: strmrdr

Date: 11/20/2008 7:08:21 PM

Author: thing2of2

Hahaha! You know what, strm? I think that in your heart of hearts you''re a wee bit Democrat!

low blow!

ouch!

rofl

Democrats ain''t that bad well except for the anti-gun thing, tax and spend thing and the forced redistribution of money thing.

Aw shucks, strm! So many compliments...stop making me blush!

 

[ksinger]

Date: 11/20/2008 7:10:09 PM
Author: thing2of2

Date: 11/20/2008 7:01:24 PM
Author: zhuzhu
For those of you who are so hateful and fearful of what''s to come, why don''t you pack up and move to a different country and leave the rest of us in peace ?

Or the red states could just secede and start the REAL United States of America! And Palin would be Prez, natch!

As a resident of the reddest of all red states, I''m going to have to nix that. Sorry. NOT happenin!

 

[luckystar112]

If only there was an OBVIOUS way to not read threads that I find ridiculous. hmmmmmmmmmmm

Oh, I know. I''ll just "sarcastic one-liner" them to death! Muahaha haha ha
Maybe if I call them bitter and suggest that they leave the country, they will forget about all of us crying about leaving the country. Yes! That''s the ticket!

 

[beebrisk]

Date: 11/20/2008 7:11:58 PM
Author: strmrdr

Date: 11/20/2008 7:08:21 PM

Author: thing2of2



Hahaha! You know what, strm? I think that in your heart of hearts you''re a wee bit Democrat!

low blow!

ouch!

rofl


Democrats ain''t that bad well except for the anti-gun thing, tax and spend thing and the forced redistribution of money thing.

You forgot the not so interested in defense thing...

 

[luckystar112]

Nevermind. Not in the mood to get into a snarkfest tonight.

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 11/20/2008 7:14:06 PM
Author: ksinger

Date: 11/20/2008 7:10:09 PM

Author: thing2of2

Date: 11/20/2008 7:01:24 PM

Author: zhuzhu

For those of you who are so hateful and fearful of what''s to come, why don''t you pack up and move to a different country and leave the rest of us in peace ?

Or the red states could just secede and start the REAL United States of America! And Palin would be Prez, natch!

As a resident of the reddest of all red states, I''m going to have to nix that. Sorry. NOT happenin!

Don''t worry taxassachusetts would welcome you.

 

[beebrisk]

Date: 11/20/2008 7:17:01 PM
Author: strmrdr

Date: 11/20/2008 7:14:06 PM

Author: ksinger

Date: 11/20/2008 7:10:09 PM


Author: thing2of2

Date: 11/20/2008 7:01:24 PM


Author: zhuzhu


For those of you who are so hateful and fearful of what''s to come, why don''t you pack up and move to a different country and leave the rest of us in peace ?

Or the red states could just secede and start the REAL United States of America! And Palin would be Prez, natch!

As a resident of the reddest of all red states, I''m going to have to nix that. Sorry. NOT happenin!

Don''t worry taxassachusetts would welcome you.

Now THAT''S funny!

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 11/20/2008 7:16:58 PM
Author: luckystar112

Date: 11/20/2008 7:15:58 PM

Author: beebrisk

Date: 11/20/2008 7:11:58 PM

Author: strmrdr

Date: 11/20/2008 7:08:21 PM


Author: thing2of2




Hahaha! You know what, strm? I think that in your heart of hearts you''re a wee bit Democrat!

low blow!


ouch!


rofl



Democrats ain''t that bad well except for the anti-gun thing, tax and spend thing and the forced redistribution of money thing.

You forgot the not so interested in defense thing...

And the ''WAHHHHHH Our country is so MEAN!!!!!!'' thing.

and they like France thing

 

[beebrisk]

Date: 11/20/2008 7:19:10 PM
Author: strmrdr

Date: 11/20/2008 7:16:58 PM

Author: luckystar112

Date: 11/20/2008 7:15:58 PM


Author: beebrisk

Date: 11/20/2008 7:11:58 PM


Author: strmrdr

Date: 11/20/2008 7:08:21 PM



Author: thing2of2





Hahaha! You know what, strm? I think that in your heart of hearts you''re a wee bit Democrat!

low blow!



ouch!



rofl




Democrats ain''t that bad well except for the anti-gun thing, tax and spend thing and the forced redistribution of money thing.

You forgot the not so interested in defense thing...

And the ''WAHHHHHH Our country is so MEAN!!!!!!'' thing.

and they like France thing

And the friend and appeaser to every despot and dictator (can you spell Jimmy Carter?) thing.

 

[iheartscience]

But you know how Democrats are good? They WON! In the House...in the Senate...in the Presidency! Sadly, all the snark in the world can''t change that! WAAAAAAAAAAAH, Republicans! WAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

 

[HollyS]

Date: 11/20/2008 2:21:12 PM
Author: rob09
COME ON!!!! The current, sadly unique state of the economy transcends any single person, including Obama. Right now pumping hundreds of billions into the economy has not created a bounce, and you are arguing that the IDEA of future policies is having a real effect?? Give me a (partisan) break, please! Maybe one could argue that the election of Obama has PREVENTED the market from crashing completely? How about that? Look, we just don''t know. Let''s give the guy time to implement his policies and then you can shred him, OK? In the mean-time I am sure you will find many other things that you can criticize him for, or the people who voted for him. Sigh.

Rob, perhaps you''re a bit young to know this, but NEVER before has the stock market fallen to this level post-election. Never.

It IS because of the uncertain future under Obama. Of course there already were problems, but there should have been -- as there has been in the past -- a rebound (somewhat) of the market. Every economist I''ve heard, has said exactly that. And yes, I do see and hear news other than FOX.

 

[starsapphire]

I think this whole thing started with the housing mess. I remember in 2006, working at Countrywide Home Loans in Florida. I was doing data entry for the Subprime mortgage dept. I saw people with credit in the 500''s getting re-fi''s, or new loans. Also, with several BK''s. Re-fi''s to clean up credit card debt. People with no documentation, getting loans. etc, etc.....

On the Prime side, they were throwing money at people to buy houses. Basically, all you needed for a Prime loan was good credit. That is it.

So it is Tangelo''s fault! I am waiting for Countrywide to be the next Enron.

BTW: Tangelo is the nickname for Angelo Mozillo. He was the fearless, DEEPLY TANNED CEO, of CW. LOL

 

[sklingem]

Holly - show me an example of a comparable state of the economy pre-election AND a post-election bounce to satisfy my curiosity and youthful inexperience - that would really strengthen your argument. I am always open to changing my mind given good evidence!

 

[HollyS]

Date: 11/20/2008 7:20:47 PM
Author: beebrisk

Date: 11/20/2008 7:19:10 PM
Author: strmrdr

Date: 11/20/2008 7:16:58 PM

Author: luckystar112

Date: 11/20/2008 7:15:58 PM


Author: beebrisk

Date: 11/20/2008 7:11:58 PM


Author: strmrdr

Date: 11/20/2008 7:08:21 PM



Author: thing2of2





Hahaha! You know what, strm? I think that in your heart of hearts you''re a wee bit Democrat!

low blow!



ouch!



rofl




Democrats ain''t that bad well except for the anti-gun thing, tax and spend thing and the forced redistribution of money thing.

You forgot the not so interested in defense thing...

And the ''WAHHHHHH Our country is so MEAN!!!!!!'' thing.

and they like France thing

And the friend and appeaser to every despot and dictator (can you spell Jimmy Carter?) thing.

The MOST assinine president we have ever had. The most assinine ex-president we still have. We can hang many a Middle East regime, and their bloodbaths, around his neck.

 

[Ellen]

Date: 11/20/2008 5:56:24 PM
Author: thing2of2
Sweet jesus-this thread is a laugh riot! Below, the condensed version:

Republicans: IT''S ALL OBAMA''S FAULT! HE''S THE WORST IN THE WORLD AND HE''S RUINING MY LIFE EVEN THOUGH HE''S NOT THE PRESIDENT YET!

Democrats: Let''s not get crazy-Obama''s not even the president yet-how can you blame the economy on him?

Republicans: OH OF COURSE YOU''LL DEFEND YOUR MESSIAH, YOU HUGO CHAVEZ LOVING COMMIES! YOU''RE ALL FANBOYS. STOP IT WITH YOUR PERSONAL ATTACKS AGAINST US FOR NOT LOVING OBAMA!

The End.

And strm, there''s at least one pro gun dem on the board. *waves pistol in the air*

 

[beebrisk]

Date: 11/20/2008 7:27:01 PM
Author: thing2of2
But you know how Democrats are good? They WON! In the House...in the Senate...in the Presidency! Sadly, all the snark in the world can''t change that! WAAAAAAAAAAAH, Republicans! WAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

Nahhh. It''s not WAAAA WAAAAA.

It''s more like OHHH NOOOOOOO, here we go again.

We remember the last time this happened. Jimmy Carter was at the helm, the Dems were running the show and the "misery index" was born. No snarking changed that either. Ronald Reagan did.

History has a funny way of repeating itself and some of us are old enough to realize it may very well be comin'' around again.

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 11/20/2008 7:27:01 PM
Author: thing2of2
But you know how Democrats are good? They WON! In the House...in the Senate...in the Presidency! Sadly, all the snark in the world can''t change that! WAAAAAAAAAAAH, Republicans! WAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

temperately insanity that will be corrected in the midterm elections.

 

[beebrisk]

Date: 11/20/2008 7:49:17 PM
Author: HollyS

Date: 11/20/2008 7:20:47 PM

Author: beebrisk

Date: 11/20/2008 7:19:10 PM

Author: strmrdr

Date: 11/20/2008 7:16:58 PM


Author: luckystar112

Date: 11/20/2008 7:15:58 PM



Author: beebrisk

Date: 11/20/2008 7:11:58 PM



Author: strmrdr

Date: 11/20/2008 7:08:21 PM




Author: thing2of2






Hahaha! You know what, strm? I think that in your heart of hearts you''re a wee bit Democrat!

low blow!




ouch!




rofl





Democrats ain''t that bad well except for the anti-gun thing, tax and spend thing and the forced redistribution of money thing.

You forgot the not so interested in defense thing...

And the ''WAHHHHHH Our country is so MEAN!!!!!!'' thing.

and they like France thing

And the friend and appeaser to every despot and dictator (can you spell Jimmy Carter?) thing.

The MOST assinine president we have ever had. The most assinine ex-president we still have. We can hang many a Middle East regime, and their bloodbaths, around his neck.

...And he doesn''t just save the love for his Middle Eastern buddies either. How many here remember him hailing the Romanian barbarian, Ceausescu as "a visionary"??

 

[HollyS]

Date: 11/20/2008 7:40:38 PM
Author: rob09
Holly - show me an example of a comparable state of the economy pre-election AND a post-election bounce to satisfy my curiosity and youthful inexperience - that would really strengthen your argument. I am always open to changing my mind given good evidence!

Start here: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/economy-watch/2008/11/no_post-election_market_rally.html (hardly conservative in viewpoint)

Or CNBC (certainly not conservative): http://www.cnbc.com/id/27470047

Google it. Yahoo it. Call it "post election market rally". Narrow the search to history about market rallies, if you don''t believe the current experts/pundits/nay-sayers.