Vent/Rant/Question for the Ladies

[Linda W]

I would be a sissy too. I sure would hate to be a man and get into fights. Being punched in the face, Ick!!!

 

[Dancing Fire]

Irish
your pix please

 

[LaraOnline]

Date: 8/14/2008 5:08:26 AM
Author: Dancing Fire
Irish

your pix please

You kook!
I had to walk past a high-rise building site every day to work, and got a lot of whistles.
I went home one night and cut all my long hair off, like a pixie cut, in the bathroom.
Next morning ... stone silence.
I felt kinda depressed...

 

[Delster]

Men who do this do not think they can pick you up by whistling at you or shouting at you, and they don't give a rat's you-know-what if you're wearing a wedding ring or not - because picking you up is not the point of the exercise.

The real motivation behind this behaviour is to show dominance over women and to make women uncomfortable. It remains one of the few areas where a man can behave abusively towards a woman and get away with it (and I use 'abusively' in the general English language sense of it, not in the legal sense). A man who behaves like this does not actually believe or hope that the women he does this to will turn around and hand over their phone numbers. He does it to get a laugh - if it makes you embarrassed, he'll laugh at you; if it makes you angry, he'll laugh at you; if you run off frightened, he'll laugh at you. Whatever way the dice rolls, he gets to make a woman feel uncomfortable and to laugh at her. That's abusive.

Thankfully, whistling at women or passing comment on their appearance is a very rare occurrence in Ireland. In fact it happens so rarely that the last time it did happen me is etched on my memory because I was so shocked (I walked past a shop that was being done up and one of the workmen inside put his hands and face to the glass and moved alongside me as I passed - all the while howling, barking and panting like a dog in heat).

Of course I also accept that on occasion there will be the odd man who whistles or says something genuinely out of a desire to pay a compliment, without any hint of sleaze, and that has happened to me too. I think that's lovely and have no objection to it.

This thread bothers me because it bothers me in general that women can't feel safe in our society. I asked FI once about his level of 'alertness' while he's just walking around town in the daytime - does he keep his senses primed? would he note the proximity of other people to his rucksack or his person? does he keep tabs on shady looking characters across the intersection? etc. He was so shocked when he realised that at all times, every day, that's how I go about my business. I don't live my life in fear, I go where I want and when I want, but I watch out for myself. And the only reason I have to do that is because I'm a woman, and the only reason he doesn't is because he's a man. And that bothers me an awful lot.

 

[Irishgrrrl]

Wow! Every time I go offline for a couple hours, this thread really takes off! LOL!

Elle ~ You are such a sweetie! Thank you!

DiamondFan ~ I totally agree about the touching being MUCH worse than the whistling/catcalling. EW! I''ve had that happen before, too, and it''s just awful.

Bliss ~ I''m so sorry you had to see that happen to your mom when you were a kid. Guys who do this are just disgusting in the first place, but even MORE so if there''s a child with the woman. UGH!

Wishful ~ YES! To everything you said! I think this happens SO much more than we hear about. For every instance that gets reported, there are probably hundreds if not thousands that DON''T get reported. And the entitlement mentality of these guys is exactly the problem. They think they should be allowed to say/do whatever they want to a woman, and she''s just supposed to smile and act like it''s OK.

Moonwater ~ Oh, I wish I only got whistles! Some of the things they say are absolutely awful. I''ll never forget a time, years ago, when I was dropping off an application for a job as a receptionist at a local car dealership. Two of the salesmen were standing outside smoking, and they were pretty close to my car. My boyfriend at the time (now my XH) was sitting in the car waiting for me. When I got back out to the car, he had this awful look on his face, and I asked him what was wrong. He said, after I walked by and into the car dealership, those two salesmen were saying unbelievable things about me . . . like talking about different positions, etc. I guess they either didn''t see him in the car, or didn''t think he could hear them, or didn''t care.

I''ve also had guys say things like that directly to my face before, which is even worse.

Cleo ~ I think you''re right. I think most guys who whistle don''t really mean anything by it and are just trying to pay us some kind of compliment I guess. But, I wish they realized that not everyone takes it as a compliment, and they would be much better off to just say "hi" or something like that.

Miracles ~ OH MY GOD!!! ((((HUGS)))) to you, you poor girl! That is just awful. I can''t believe that guy at the concert PUNCHED YOU IN THE FACE!!!

And the disgusting little kid . . . I don''t even know what to say about that. You''re a much better person than I am for feeling sorry for him when he got his butt smacked!!! UGH! The little heathen!

DF ~ Hahahahaha! I am SO glad you''re back!!!

Lara ~ I''m so sorry. That''s just awful, that they made you feel so bad that you chopped all your hair off. I can see why you did it though, and I don''t blame you. It''s just a shame that you were made to feel that way in the first place.

Delster ~ I would love to visit Ireland someday, and it''s nice to know that this type of behavior is NOT very common there! And I think you''re exactly right about their motivation . . . it''s a show of dominance, and it is definitely abusive. (Especially when it escalates to what Miracles or the girls in Central Park had to deal with!) And I agree that this issue is very bothersome because it''s something that ONLY women have to deal with. Men (like your FI) don''t walk around in "alert mode" all the time. They can be much more relaxed and unconcerned about their surroundings than we can. It''s not fair, and it pisses me off.

 

[jas]

Delster -- thank you for posting what you did. That''s how I feel. No matter what my reaction...even if it''s a smile or ignoring the whistle, I''ve sort of "lost" the game.

You just expressed it so beautifully.

 

[krispi]

I don''t walk around downtown enough to get whistles very often, I guess. But you know what I hate? When the truckers honk! Sometimes I know what they''re doing, but sometimes it freaks me out, and I''m looking around for the car whose way I''m in or the car whose in someone else''s way. I don''t understand what they expect to get out of it either, and I never acknowledge them.

Although, I have to say that when I gained weight and had my hair short a few years ago, I noticed I wasn''t getting honked at anymore, and it did make me feel a lot less attractive...

 

[Ellen]

Date: 8/13/2008 2:56:37 PM
Author: somethingshiny

Date: 8/13/2008 2:53:34 PM
Author: Irishgrrrl

Date: 8/13/2008 2:52:17 PM

Author: somethingshiny

If i get whistled at, I ignore it. If I get hit-on, I politely decline.


If I get my a$$ grabbed, I swing.

LOL! Shiny, I like your style!

yeah, but it''s actually happened!! I was at a tavern with DH, our friends, and even my dad was there! This guy full-on GRABBED! I swung, he went down, every one had to keep my DH and dad off the guy while he was being escorted out. I got free drinks the rest of the evening.

That''s awful. What''s even worse is, I can beat it.

I was in a bar and had a guy (who was obviously drunk) walk over and literally pick me up and start to carry me out of the bar. At first, I just started yelling to put me down. That didn''t work, so I started beating on him. That didn''t wok, so I was just starting to postion myself so I could kick his kids to the curb, when he stopped and put me down. That was THE strangest thing that ever happened to me in a bar, and I''ve had some real "winners" hit on me.

I went and told the bar owner, turns out I was the second gal in a week he''d done that to. *sniff* And here I thought I was special.

They barred him.

As for wolf whistles and cat calls, I can''t say they ever made me want to get to know the guy better, but as Starset Princess''s Seinfeld post makes clear, I knew they meant well. They just don''t know what else to do. lol And now that I''m older? Bring em on, make my day.

 

[Ellen]

Date: 8/14/2008 12:35:18 AM
Author: miraclesrule
When I was 17 or so, I went to see Gary Wright, Peter Frampton and Yes. (Wow, I''m old)

Anyway, I was with a girlfriend, my daughter''s father and his friend. I don''t remember where the guys were, but some drunk guy walked by me and grabbed my arse and smacked it...hard. I yelled at him something to the effect of flipping him off, only verbally. He stopped in his tracks, turned around and headed straight for me yelling '' F me?, F me?...well F You'' and punched me in the face.

I was dazed and confused. I didn''t even think to hit back. I went and found my BF and his friend and we they tried to find the guy and we found him wandering outside the park getting into trouble with some other people. Me and girlfriend tried to get the guys to go take care of him and the guys said...''Nah, looky there, someone else is about to take care of him for us...lets get back in time for the light show''.

I had two other instances in my life when I was physically accosted. One was by a 10 or 12 year old at a Charger Game. I hunted that kid down and he was with his grandfather who spanked his butt right in front of me...then I felt kind of sad for him. But he grabbed my chest and twisted it!!

I''ll take a whistle anyday.

Unreal.

I''m glad he didn''t do any real physical damage, like knock your teeth out.

Wow, what a "guy".

 

[Bliss]

Date: 8/14/2008 10:39:32 AM
Author: Ellen

Date: 8/14/2008 12:35:18 AM
Author: miraclesrule
When I was 17 or so, I went to see Gary Wright, Peter Frampton and Yes. (Wow, I''m old)

Anyway, I was with a girlfriend, my daughter''s father and his friend. I don''t remember where the guys were, but some drunk guy walked by me and grabbed my arse and smacked it...hard. I yelled at him something to the effect of flipping him off, only verbally. He stopped in his tracks, turned around and headed straight for me yelling '' F me?, F me?...well F You'' and punched me in the face.

I was dazed and confused. I didn''t even think to hit back. I went and found my BF and his friend and we they tried to find the guy and we found him wandering outside the park getting into trouble with some other people. Me and girlfriend tried to get the guys to go take care of him and the guys said...''Nah, looky there, someone else is about to take care of him for us...lets get back in time for the light show''.

I had two other instances in my life when I was physically accosted. One was by a 10 or 12 year old at a Charger Game. I hunted that kid down and he was with his grandfather who spanked his butt right in front of me...then I felt kind of sad for him. But he grabbed my chest and twisted it!!

I''ll take a whistle anyday.

Unreal.

I''m glad he didn''t do any real physical damage, like knock your teeth out.

Wow, what a ''guy''.

Any man who hits a woman is a coward and an evil excuse for a human being. UUUGHH!

Lovely Miracles, I''m glad you were OK!

 

[Irishgrrrl]

Wow. Sounds like we all have some "interesting" stories about this issue!

The fact that so many of the women here on PS have had things like this happen really says something. It IS just overlooked and accepted by society, even though it''s wrong. It''s a shame that this is STILL a problem (and men are STILL acting like cavemen) in 2008.

 

[Irishgrrrl]

Date: 8/14/2008 10:49:21 AM
Author: Bliss

Date: 8/14/2008 10:39:32 AM
Author: Ellen

Date: 8/14/2008 12:35:18 AM
Author: miraclesrule
When I was 17 or so, I went to see Gary Wright, Peter Frampton and Yes. (Wow, I''m old)

Anyway, I was with a girlfriend, my daughter''s father and his friend. I don''t remember where the guys were, but some drunk guy walked by me and grabbed my arse and smacked it...hard. I yelled at him something to the effect of flipping him off, only verbally. He stopped in his tracks, turned around and headed straight for me yelling '' F me?, F me?...well F You'' and punched me in the face.

I was dazed and confused. I didn''t even think to hit back. I went and found my BF and his friend and we they tried to find the guy and we found him wandering outside the park getting into trouble with some other people. Me and girlfriend tried to get the guys to go take care of him and the guys said...''Nah, looky there, someone else is about to take care of him for us...lets get back in time for the light show''.

I had two other instances in my life when I was physically accosted. One was by a 10 or 12 year old at a Charger Game. I hunted that kid down and he was with his grandfather who spanked his butt right in front of me...then I felt kind of sad for him. But he grabbed my chest and twisted it!!

I''ll take a whistle anyday.

Unreal.

I''m glad he didn''t do any real physical damage, like knock your teeth out.

Wow, what a ''guy''.

Any man who hits a woman is a coward and an evil excuse for a human being. UUUGHH!

Lovely Miracles, I''m glad you were OK!

AMEN, Bliss!!!

You know, I was worried that maybe I was a little overly-sensitive to this issue, because my XH was abusive and, having lived through an abusive relationship, I might be kind of "hyper-vigilant" when it comes to someone whistling, making comments, or (God forbid) touching me. But it seems like the vast majority of the ladies here feel the same way, so I now know that it''s not just me and I''m not over-reacting.

 

[diamondfan]

ANYTIME someone is attempting to demean or humiliate you, whether verbally or physically or emotionally, it is NOT OK. There are degrees of this, and a couple of men thinking you are pretty and making a mild remark is certainly more at the bottom of the list, but if the person is trying to do any of those things above, it is still wrong. And grabbing body parts or hitting a woman? A man who would do that out in public to a stranger is someone who is likely doing that in private too. Scary.

I also think we have gotten a bit scared and PC in life to the other end of the spectrum. You almost cannot tell someone they look nice at the office without someone being able to make something out of it. Of course there are very inappropriate comments and people are made very uncomfortable by certain types of interactions, and those are serious. The recipient knows if the person is creepy and making trouble or not, versus a comment that is just a compliment or whatever. But certainly we have become sensitized because for a long time there was a sort of free for all going on, and people were often afraid to speak up...which is not good at all.

If someone whistles I am flattered on one hand, I am 42 and a mom of three after all!!! But seriously, I just keep walking. I do not make eye contact, and if I am not feeling unsafe I just let it go. Wearing a bluetooth or Ipod is a great way to get passed people and look busy...a lot of the Olympic athletes like to have them on so that they can be incommunicado.

I think intent is key here. A large group of men doing that to one woman is really pretty lame and I agree they are not thinking a woman is really going to respond.

I recall two funny things. One is a movie or show where this happened and I cannot remember much but the woman said something like, In the history of the world did you ever get a woman''s attention by doing that?

There was also a commercial where all these construction workers are sitting there and there is slow mo sexy music and they are staring and hooting and a pudgy average looking man walks by with a fast food bag, he is slowing sipping a drink and the men are whistling for the fast food. Thought it was pretty funny.

 

[Ellen]

Date: 8/14/2008 11:33:38 AM
Author: diamondfan
There was also a commercial where all these construction workers are sitting there and there is slow mo sexy music and they are staring and hooting and a pudgy average looking man walks by with a fast food bag, he is slowing sipping a drink and the men are whistling for the fast food. Thought it was pretty funny.

I thought that was funny too.

 

[Irishgrrrl]

Date: 8/14/2008 11:33:38 AM
Author: diamondfan
ANYTIME someone is attempting to demean or humiliate you, whether verbally or physically or emotionally, it is NOT OK. There are degrees of this, and a couple of men thinking you are pretty and making a mild remark is certainly more at the bottom of the list, but if the person is trying to do any of those things above, it is still wrong. And grabbing body parts or hitting a woman? A man who would do that out in public to a stranger is someone who is likely doing that in private too. Scary.

I also think we have gotten a bit scared and PC in life to the other end of the spectrum. You almost cannot tell someone they look nice at the office without someone being able to make something out of it. Of course there are very inappropriate comments and people are made very uncomfortable by certain types of interactions, and those are serious. The recipient knows if the person is creepy and making trouble or not, versus a comment that is just a compliment or whatever. But certainly we have become sensitized because for a long time there was a sort of free for all going on, and people were often afraid to speak up...which is not good at all.

If someone whistles I am flattered on one hand, I am 42 and a mom of three after all!!! But seriously, I just keep walking. I do not make eye contact, and if I am not feeling unsafe I just let it go. Wearing a bluetooth or Ipod is a great way to get passed people and look busy...a lot of the Olympic athletes like to have them on so that they can be incommunicado.

I think intent is key here. A large group of men doing that to one woman is really pretty lame and I agree they are not thinking a woman is really going to respond.

I recall two funny things. One is a movie or show where this happened and I cannot remember much but the woman said something like, In the history of the world did you ever get a woman''s attention by doing that?

There was also a commercial where all these construction workers are sitting there and there is slow mo sexy music and they are staring and hooting and a pudgy average looking man walks by with a fast food bag, he is slowing sipping a drink and the men are whistling for the fast food. Thought it was pretty funny.

DF, I''ve seen that commercial! I think it''s a commercial for Arby''s. And you''re right, it is pretty funny! LOL!

And I agree that the PC aspect can go too far. If I have a new outfit on at work or if I got my hair cut or something and my boss notices and says "Hey, you look nice today," I think there is absolutely nothing wrong with that and of course I''m flattered and thank him for noticing. I think when you said "the intent is key," you really hit the nail right on the head!

 

[Dancing Fire]

ladies....just don''t wear anymore low cut and short dresses.

 

[Lauren8211]

Date: 8/14/2008 12:26:00 PM
Author: Dancing Fire
ladies....just don''t wear anymore low cut and short dresses.

Clever!

 

[Linda W]

Date: 8/14/2008 12:26:00 PM
Author: Dancing Fire
ladies....just don''t wear anymore low cut and short dresses.

TEE HEE!!!!! YAY YAY YAY YAY Our beloved Dancing Fire is back with his wonderful sense of humor and his one liners.

We love ya DF

Now I can enjoy my morning cup of coffee again

 

[Bliss]

Date: 8/14/2008 12:26:00 PM
Author: Dancing Fire
ladies....just don''t wear anymore low cut and short dresses.

Sup-A Granny''s gonna come tweak your ear if you''re not careful!

 

[Dancing Fire]

Date: 8/14/2008 12:33:50 PM
Author: Bliss

Date: 8/14/2008 12:26:00 PM
Author: Dancing Fire
ladies....just don''t wear anymore low cut and short dresses.

Sup-A Granny''s gonna come tweak your ear if you''re not careful!

nahhh....i love Linda

she wouldn''t do that to me.

 

[Bliss]

Date: 8/14/2008 12:58:55 PM
Author: Dancing Fire

Date: 8/14/2008 12:33:50 PM
Author: Bliss

Date: 8/14/2008 12:26:00 PM
Author: Dancing Fire
ladies....just don''t wear anymore low cut and short dresses.

Sup-A Granny''s gonna come tweak your ear if you''re not careful!

nahhh....i love Linda

she wouldn''t do that to me.

She might not, but Sup-A Granny might! (I''m Sup-A Granny, btw.)

 

[Irishgrrrl]

Ohhh, Linda??? Do you want one of us to smack DF for ya?!?! LOL!

DF, I know you were joking about the low cut/short dress comment, but it made me remember something:

Back when my XH and I were dating, we were walking down the street one day and a guy said something to me. I just rolled my eyes and ignored him, and tried to just laugh it off. But, XH was pissed! Not at the obnoxious guy . . . at ME! In his opinion, I was "asking for it" because of the way I was dressed. Keep in mind, I was wearing a pair of jeans and a T-shirt with a winter coat over top!!!

"Asking for it" . . . riiiiiiiiight . . .

 

[Linda W]

Tee Hee IG. I just love Dancing Fire. He makes my day, every time I see his posts. Actually, his sense of humor is just like my hubby''s. They always have a crack to make. My hubby makes me laugh daily.


Linda

 

[Irishgrrrl]

Date: 8/14/2008 2:08:07 PM
Author: Linda W
Tee Hee IG. I just love Dancing Fire. He makes my day, every time I see his posts. Actually, his sense of humor is just like my hubby''s. They always have a crack to make. My hubby makes me laugh daily.


Linda

Linda, I know what you mean! I really missed DF while he was gone, and I''m so glad he''s back . . . it was getting WAY too quiet around here! LOL!

 

[fleur-de-lis]

Has anyone else reading this thread been reminded of that famous 1951 photograph, "American Girl in Italy"?:

 

[Dancing Fire]

Date: 8/14/2008 2:05:24 PM
Author: Irishgrrrl
Ohhh, Linda??? Do you want one of us to smack DF for ya?!?! LOL!

DF, I know you were joking about the low cut/short dress comment, but it made me remember something:

Back when my XH and I were dating, we were walking down the street one day and a guy said something to me. I just rolled my eyes and ignored him, and tried to just laugh it off. But, XH was pissed! Not at the obnoxious guy . . . at ME! In his opinion, I was ''asking for it'' because of the way I was dressed. Keep in mind, I was wearing a pair of jeans and a T-shirt with a winter coat over top!!!

''Asking for it'' . . . riiiiiiiiight . . .

sooo....your high beam was ON !! ??

 

[Irishgrrrl]

Date: 8/14/2008 3:28:10 PM
Author: Dancing Fire

Date: 8/14/2008 2:05:24 PM
Author: Irishgrrrl
Ohhh, Linda??? Do you want one of us to smack DF for ya?!?! LOL!

DF, I know you were joking about the low cut/short dress comment, but it made me remember something:

Back when my XH and I were dating, we were walking down the street one day and a guy said something to me. I just rolled my eyes and ignored him, and tried to just laugh it off. But, XH was pissed! Not at the obnoxious guy . . . at ME! In his opinion, I was ''asking for it'' because of the way I was dressed. Keep in mind, I was wearing a pair of jeans and a T-shirt with a winter coat over top!!!

''Asking for it'' . . . riiiiiiiiight . . .

sooo....your high beam was ON !! ??

LOL! Nope, DF . . . and even if they were, the guy was WAY too far away to notice!

 

[iheartscience]

Date: 8/14/2008 6:33:33 AM
Author: Delster
Men who do this do not think they can pick you up by whistling at you or shouting at you, and they don''t give a rat''s you-know-what if you''re wearing a wedding ring or not - because picking you up is not the point of the exercise.


The real motivation behind this behaviour is to show dominance over women and to make women uncomfortable. It remains one of the few areas where a man can behave abusively towards a woman and get away with it (and I use ''abusively'' in the general English language sense of it, not in the legal sense). A man who behaves like this does not actually believe or hope that the women he does this to will turn around and hand over their phone numbers. He does it to get a laugh - if it makes you embarrassed, he''ll laugh at you; if it makes you angry, he''ll laugh at you; if you run off frightened, he''ll laugh at you. Whatever way the dice rolls, he gets to make a woman feel uncomfortable and to laugh at her. That''s abusive.


Thankfully, whistling at women or passing comment on their appearance is a very rare occurrence in Ireland. In fact it happens so rarely that the last time it did happen me is etched on my memory because I was so shocked (I walked past a shop that was being done up and one of the workmen inside put his hands and face to the glass and moved alongside me as I passed - all the while howling, barking and panting like a dog in heat).


Of course I also accept that on occasion there will be the odd man who whistles or says something genuinely out of a desire to pay a compliment, without any hint of sleaze, and that has happened to me too. I think that''s lovely and have no objection to it.


This thread bothers me because it bothers me in general that women can''t feel safe in our society. I asked FI once about his level of ''alertness'' while he''s just walking around town in the daytime - does he keep his senses primed? would he note the proximity of other people to his rucksack or his person? does he keep tabs on shady looking characters across the intersection? etc. He was so shocked when he realised that at all times, every day, that''s how I go about my business. I don''t live my life in fear, I go where I want and when I want, but I watch out for myself. And the only reason I have to do that is because I''m a woman, and the only reason he doesn''t is because he''s a man. And that bothers me an awful lot.

Ditto! I was too lazy to write this post, so thanks for doing it for me, Delster!

 

[Bliss]

Date: 8/14/2008 3:28:10 PM
Author: Dancing Fire

Date: 8/14/2008 2:05:24 PM
Author: Irishgrrrl
Ohhh, Linda??? Do you want one of us to smack DF for ya?!?! LOL!

DF, I know you were joking about the low cut/short dress comment, but it made me remember something:

Back when my XH and I were dating, we were walking down the street one day and a guy said something to me. I just rolled my eyes and ignored him, and tried to just laugh it off. But, XH was pissed! Not at the obnoxious guy . . . at ME! In his opinion, I was 'asking for it' because of the way I was dressed. Keep in mind, I was wearing a pair of jeans and a T-shirt with a winter coat over top!!!

'Asking for it' . . . riiiiiiiiight . . .

sooo....your high beam was ON !! ??

Sup-A Granny swoops in....*smacks DF in head with big octogenarian boob*....

*cackles*

(Sup-A Granny photo blurred for the kiddies.)


EAT THIS, YOU WHISTLING DOGS!

 

[Irishgrrrl]

Date: 8/14/2008 3:40:47 PM
Author: Bliss

Date: 8/14/2008 3:28:10 PM
Author: Dancing Fire

Date: 8/14/2008 2:05:24 PM
Author: Irishgrrrl
Ohhh, Linda??? Do you want one of us to smack DF for ya?!?! LOL!

DF, I know you were joking about the low cut/short dress comment, but it made me remember something:

Back when my XH and I were dating, we were walking down the street one day and a guy said something to me. I just rolled my eyes and ignored him, and tried to just laugh it off. But, XH was pissed! Not at the obnoxious guy . . . at ME! In his opinion, I was ''asking for it'' because of the way I was dressed. Keep in mind, I was wearing a pair of jeans and a T-shirt with a winter coat over top!!!

''Asking for it'' . . . riiiiiiiiight . . .

sooo....your high beam was ON !! ??

Sup-A Granny swoops in....*smacks DF in head with big octogenarian boob*....

*cackles*

(Sup-A Granny photo blurred for the kiddies.)


EAT THIS, YOU WHISTLING DOGS!

OMG, Bliss!!!!! I''m gonna pee myself!!! ROFLMAO!!!!!