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Help me find a gorgeous e-ring please!

busines4u

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I am in search of the best diamond I can possibly get with the below specs. I almost ended up with a poorly cut diamond from Rogers (https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/advice-on-rogers-ring-good-deal-or-no.214594/), but after posting the specs here I was informed to run as fast as I can, which I did! Thank you to all involved so far. I feel much better knowing that you all will help me find a gorgeous sparkly diamond to knock her socks off.

Total Budget: $9500
Size: 1 carat minimum. The larger the better, that will fit within my budget.
Shape: Round Brilliant
Color: DEF (I want this thing to sparkle) I'm willing to drop some if I won't be able to tell the difference and it will help me get a bigger size.
Clarity: VS2 or better. I'm willing to go down to SI1 if the diamond is "eye clean"
Setting: White Gold. Require something that has a very low setting. GF works with her hands so something that is less likely to snag. I saw she had "pinned" this ring, but I am worried about the performance of the diamond in a setting like this: http://www.whiteflash.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/lilly-solitaire-engagement-ring-58.htm So perhaps I should get something that will allow more light to hit it?

If anyone has any questions or suggestions please feel free to ask/share!
 

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Sparkle comes from the cut not the color. That setting should be fine. Light enters the top of a well cut stone then bounces back
out. That setting wouldnt be so great for a poorly cut stone though. You could do a true tension setting without the basket but
honestly, for a ring that she is going to wear all/most of the time I would prefer a basket.

Example of true tension setting...
http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/tension/14k-white-gold-spiral-tension-set-engagement-ring-item-197

Any ACA that fits in your budget would be gorgeous. I honestly would drop down to G unless you think she/you are very sensitive
to color. As long as it is eye-clean, you could go with an SI1.

Leaves these options...I would probably go with the first stone.
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3236289.htm
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3449646.htm expert selection.

Other options at JA
http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/tension/14k-white-gold-spiral-solitaire-engagement-ring-item-1880


Stone...you would need to ask JA if it's eye-clean
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.21-carat-e-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-29443
 

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That's a very sleek and modern setting. If she's tried it on and likes it, then that's what you should get her. An ideal cut stone won't sparkle any less in it and it doesn't have prongs, which she might be trying to avoid because of her work.

Your budget is sufficient to get an ideal cut stone F-G VS2 at least 1ct in a simple solitaire setting. any PS recommended vendors should have a similar setting to the one that you posted.
 

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baby monster|1437156357|3904153 said:
That's a very sleek and modern setting. If she's tried it on and likes it, then that's what you should get her. An ideal cut stone won't sparkle any less in it and it doesn't have prongs, which she might be trying to avoid because of her work.

Your budget is sufficient to get an ideal cut stone F-G VS2 at least 1ct in a simple solitaire setting. any PS recommended vendors should have a similar setting to the one that you posted.

I don't believe she has ever tried this ring on. I think she just saw it and liked the style of it. She likes things that are different and that ring certainly fits the bill in comparison to other engagement rings I have seen. I'm just not sure how it would look next to a wedding band?
 

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busines4u|1437154844|3904140 said:
I am in search of the best diamond I can possibly get with the below specs. I almost ended up with a poorly cut diamond from Rogers (https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/advice-on-rogers-ring-good-deal-or-no.214594/), but after posting the specs here I was informed to run as fast as I can, which I did! Thank you to all involved so far. I feel much better knowing that you all will help me find a gorgeous sparkly diamond to knock her socks off.

Total Budget: $9500
Size: 1 carat minimum. The larger the better, that will fit within my budget.
Shape: Round Brilliant
Color: DEF (I want this thing to sparkle) I'm willing to drop some if I won't be able to tell the difference and it will help me get a bigger size.
Clarity: VS2 or better. I'm willing to go down to SI1 if the diamond is "eye clean"
Setting: White Gold. Require something that has a very low setting. GF works with her hands so something that is less likely to snag. I saw she had "pinned" this ring, but I am worried about the performance of the diamond in a setting like this: http://www.whiteflash.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/lilly-solitaire-engagement-ring-58.htm So perhaps I should get something that will allow more light to hit it?

If anyone has any questions or suggestions please feel free to ask/share!

You don't have to worry about performance with that setting. It should not be impacted.

Since you've got that setting linked from Whiteflash, check out this option:

1.147ct, H, SI1 (eye-clean) - ACA
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3496137.htm

1.14ct, G, SI1 (eye-clean)
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3449646.htm


Either of those options, paired with the setting you had linked, will be under your budget. You'll end up with a top-notch stone from a company with a great upgrade policy, and everything done in one place, so no issues with insurance/shipping/setting.

Best of luck!
 

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Welcome back! Here are some great and gorgeous options to start. I think the first and last are the ones RR posted. If you'd drop to an H, you'll get a bigger stone. The cut is what produces the sparkle and brilliance, not the color. Usually a G is a very safe color as is an H as long as your GF isn't really color sensitive.


http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3449646.htm

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3253504.htm

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3488744.htm

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3496137.htm


A couple of setting options. You can also modify through WF. IE, if you wanted the shank a little thinner or things like that. You won't see diminished light in these types of settings (and the tension type setting your GF pinned) as the light is entering from the top. These are nice choices if she works with her hands.

http://www.whiteflash.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/eternal-love-solitaire-engagement-ring-1598.htm

http://www.whiteflash.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/keystone-half-bezel-solitaire-engagement-ring-1105.htm
 

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A couple more options from Brian Gavin Diamonds. He has stunningly gorgeous stones and beautiful settings. Also, there's a nice discount when doing a wire (for WF too), so personally I feel it's worth it. All the SI1's are eye clean and his H stones are nice and white :sun: .

Don't be shy to reach out to WF or BGD as they both have great customer service.


http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.016-g-si1-round-diamond-ags-104072827010

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.090-h-si1-round-diamond-ags-104072827011

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.070-h-si1-round-diamond-ags-104076722035

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.053-h-si1-round-diamond-ags-104074030068


He has some really nice setting options that do not have prongs. Here are a few.

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/ava-sholdt-14k-white-gold-5343w14

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/engagement-rings/spiral-of-love-18k-white-gold-5380w18
 

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busines4u|1437157598|3904159 said:
baby monster|1437156357|3904153 said:
That's a very sleek and modern setting. If she's tried it on and likes it, then that's what you should get her. An ideal cut stone won't sparkle any less in it and it doesn't have prongs, which she might be trying to avoid because of her work.

Your budget is sufficient to get an ideal cut stone F-G VS2 at least 1ct in a simple solitaire setting. any PS recommended vendors should have a similar setting to the one that you posted.

I don't believe she has ever tried this ring on. I think she just saw it and liked the style of it. She likes things that are different and that ring certainly fits the bill in comparison to other engagement rings I have seen. I'm just not sure how it would look next to a wedding band?
Not everyone likes matching wedding sets but in case she does, here's a similar setting with matching WB.
https://eshop.gabrielny.com/product/ER7892W44JJ

I would recommend that she tries rings on. Sometimes the styles we like in photos don't look good on the finger. There are lots of other bezel and semi-bezel settings out there.
 

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baby monster|1437162133|3904216 said:
busines4u|1437157598|3904159 said:
baby monster|1437156357|3904153 said:
That's a very sleek and modern setting. If she's tried it on and likes it, then that's what you should get her. An ideal cut stone won't sparkle any less in it and it doesn't have prongs, which she might be trying to avoid because of her work.

Your budget is sufficient to get an ideal cut stone F-G VS2 at least 1ct in a simple solitaire setting. any PS recommended vendors should have a similar setting to the one that you posted.

I don't believe she has ever tried this ring on. I think she just saw it and liked the style of it. She likes things that are different and that ring certainly fits the bill in comparison to other engagement rings I have seen. I'm just not sure how it would look next to a wedding band?
Not everyone likes matching wedding sets but in case she does, here's a similar setting with matching WB.
https://eshop.gabrielny.com/product/ER7892W44JJ

I would recommend that she tries rings on. Sometimes the styles we like in photos don't look good on the finger. There are lots of other bezel and semi-bezel settings out there.

I would love to have her try the ring on, but then she would know for sure the big question is coming. I wanted to try and catch her off guard and surprise her without giving her any indication. Having her try a ring on would also verify her ring size for me. So many diamonds to choose from!

What is everyone's take on the color situation. I'm under the assumption that H vs DEF is not noticeable since the majority of rings listed here are of the H color?
 

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G/H tends to be a warm spot for a lot of folks. You are not paying for high color but your stone will still be a bright, white stone.
People tend to only be able to tell color when you put 2 stones next to each other that are very different in color. (Some people
are color sensitive and really need a D/E/F color stone but this tends to be more the exception than the rule.) So, in my opinion
G/H is a good place to be.
 

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tyty333|1437156160|3904152 said:
Sparkle comes from the cut not the color. That setting should be fine. Light enters the top of a well cut stone then bounces back
out. That setting wouldnt be so great for a poorly cut stone though. You could do a true tension setting without the basket but
honestly, for a ring that she is going to wear all/most of the time I would prefer a basket.

Example of true tension setting...
http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/tension/14k-white-gold-spiral-tension-set-engagement-ring-item-197

Any ACA that fits in your budget would be gorgeous. I honestly would drop down to G unless you think she/you are very sensitive
to color. As long as it is eye-clean, you could go with an SI1.

Leaves these options...I would probably go with the first stone.
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3236289.htm
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3449646.htm expert selection.

Other options at JA
http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/tension/14k-white-gold-spiral-solitaire-engagement-ring-item-1880


Stone...you would need to ask JA if it's eye-clean
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.21-carat-e-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-29443

Why does the first stone appear so much whiter than the second stone you posted?

I also asked James Allen about the diamond and they confirmed that it is indeed eye clean. Do you think that would be the better choice vs the two from Whiteflash since it is larger? JA also told me that since I was a member of this forum they would offer a discount!
 

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busines4u said:
tyty333|1437156160|3904152 said:
Sparkle comes from the cut not the color. That setting should be fine. Light enters the top of a well cut stone then bounces back
out. That setting wouldnt be so great for a poorly cut stone though. You could do a true tension setting without the basket but
honestly, for a ring that she is going to wear all/most of the time I would prefer a basket.

Example of true tension setting...
http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/tension/14k-white-gold-spiral-tension-set-engagement-ring-item-197

Any ACA that fits in your budget would be gorgeous. I honestly would drop down to G unless you think she/you are very sensitive
to color. As long as it is eye-clean, you could go with an SI1.

Leaves these options...I would probably go with the first stone.
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3236289.htm
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3449646.htm expert selection.

Other options at JA
http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/tension/14k-white-gold-spiral-solitaire-engagement-ring-item-1880


Stone...you would need to ask JA if it's eye-clean
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.21-carat-e-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-29443

Why does the first stone appear so much whiter than the second stone you posted?

I also asked James Allen about the diamond and they confirmed that it is indeed eye clean. Do you think that would be the better choice vs the two from Whiteflash since it is larger? JA also told me that since I was a member of this forum they would offer a discount!


The difference in whiteness as you say is most likely due to the photography. If you are interested in both diamonds, WF will do a side by side video or side by side photograph of the diamonds face down (which is the way they are graded for color) so you can see if there is any difference to your eyes.

I am loving the 1.136 G SI1 from WF. It's an ACA which is a superior cut and it will surely be brilliant and sparkly.

As far as the JA stone, the proportions are ideal and it looks like it could be a winner. Oddly, when you click on the GIA report only the top half comes up. Here's the link to the whole GIA report.

Call JA and see if you can get an Idealscope or ASET image of it. If it has great light performance (and it's truly eye clean), then it would be my top pick as it's the largest, it's less expensive, and the E color is a nice bonus.

If you're really interested in it, put it on hold as diamonds tend to get snapped up and that one looks like a gem of a find, lol.

Are there any settings you like on JA's website?

http://www.gia.edu/cs/Satellite?pagename=GST%2FDispatcher&childpagename=GIA%2FPage%2FReportCheck&c=Page&cid=1355954554547&reportno=2135746173
 

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I reached out to both companies. JA is going to get me an Idealscope image, they do not offer ASET images of round diamonds. They said this could take up to 5 business days!

Also Whiteflash is going to get me videos of the diamonds I requested as well as a side by side for color comparison. They told me I should hear something back later this morning, so I will certainly share these images with you to get your opinion on.
 

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That's great news. An IS will be perfect. Ask and see if you can put the JA stone on hold while the IS is coming. It's really a great find and it may not be available by the time the IS comes in.
 

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Yes JA said that they will put the diamond on hold for me while the IS images are coming. They said that I will have 24 hours after I get the images to make a decision before the diamond will be released from on hold.

I'm expecting the WF videos and images to be here later this afternoon.

I think I am going to have a tough decision to make very soon! I will certainly be looking to PS for advice.
 

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The good news is that you have 3 stunning options to choose from!

Have you thought more about the setting? Maybe have a look at the settings on both WF and JA. Having it set through the vendor you buy your stone from is much easier for insurance purposes and it just makes things simpler for you.
 

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I was also going to suggest a bezel or semi bezel if she wants the stone protected.

I love these two from Whiteflash:

http://www.whiteflash.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/eternal-love-solitaire-engagement-ring-1598.htm
http://www.whiteflash.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/cameron-solitaire-engagement-ring-585.htm

Either of them would allow a wedding band to sit flush, and be classic, timeless designs. I think the original setting she pinned is cool and interesting, but would make it difficult to find a wedding band and the large 'arms' that hold the stone could get caught on things (not likely, but could happen).
 

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rubybeth|1437502248|3905709 said:
I was also going to suggest a bezel or semi bezel if she wants the stone protected.

I love these two from Whiteflash:

http://www.whiteflash.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/eternal-love-solitaire-engagement-ring-1598.htm
http://www.whiteflash.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/cameron-solitaire-engagement-ring-585.htm

Either of them would allow a wedding band to sit flush, and be classic, timeless designs. I think the original setting she pinned is cool and interesting, but would make it difficult to find a wedding band and the large 'arms' that hold the stone could get caught on things (not likely, but could happen).

I do like that first setting from Whiteflash. The second one looks like it might sit a bit too high though.

I agree that those arms would be a good way for the ring to snag on things since it has more of a pointy edge. That reason along with the wedding band makes me lean towards a more traditional setting.

What is everyone's take on Platinum vs White Gold. From what I've researched the white gold is going to require more maintenance and break down over time but platinum is going to scratch more easily but be more durable over time. I'm sure this has been answered before on the forum so I apologize for the redundancy
 

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I love the Eternal Love setting. It's so lovely and it will look really beautiful with a variety of wedding bands which is nice because she'll have her pick of any style she wishes.

Personally I'm a fan of platinum for the simple fact that it doesn't need to be re-plated and I'm a no muss no fuss kind of person. But white gold is nice and it's a great option if you're on a budget. Platinum may need to be polished but a nice thing is that the metal isn't worn away with polishing, it's just displaced. You can also do un-plated white gold which will have a warmth to it. It's not bright white like plated white gold, it's more of a cream color.
 

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I just heard from WF regarding the diamonds I was looking at and this is what they had to say. I'm a bit concerned that these diamonds have a visible dark crystal, even though it is from the side.

Thank you for coming to Whiteflash and for chatting with us online about these diamonds:
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/compare.aspx?idnos=3449646,3236289,3488744

These diamonds are all very similar, and the images wouldn't really show the differences between them accurately. So I had the three diamonds pulled so I could inspect them personally. All three are beautiful diamonds, with great light return and sparkle. In terms of color and clarity, I felt the 1.136ct was actually the best of the three stones.

The 1.14ct G Si1 had a feather in the table, which I could see upon close inspection face up. I also felt it was the lowest in color between the three stones when viewed from the side.

The 1.002ct G VS2 and the 1.136ct G Si1 were compraable in terms of color from both the face up and side view. Both were eye clean face up as well. However the VS2 had a small dark crystal which was visible from the side. The Si1 also had a small dark crystal which I could see from the side view, but the position of the inclusion made it harder to see.

The size difference between these stones is very very subtle, as is the color difference (usually color differences within one grade don't show up well -- if at all -- in images). So I wasn't sure that pictures would be super helpful in this case. But I did want to let you know about the subtleties that I was able to see with my eye.

Please let me know what you think, and if you have any questions so far. I look forward to hearing from you!
 

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Sounds like the 1.136 would be your best bet out of those 3. Depending on the setting you choose, the crystal from the side may not be visible. For example, if you chose the Eternal Love, you would have them orient the stone so that the crystal was obscured by one of the bezel sides. If you went with a very open setting or one with prongs, she may be able to see the crystal. You can ask the rep if the crystal would be obscured with the Eternal Love, or if the crystal will still be visible from the sides that are open.

Here are a few more considerations if you're really bothered by the clarity. With your budget you'll have to give on one of the C's so these are H's.

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3382621.htm

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3430623.htm

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3430625.htm

And one that looks really nice from BGD: I believe all his SI1's are eye clean.

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.070-h-si1-round-diamond-ags-104076722035#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/1/
 

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JDDN|1437510636|3905762 said:
Sounds like the 1.136 would be your best bet out of those 3. Depending on the setting you choose, the crystal from the side may not be visible. For example, if you chose the Eternal Love, you would have them orient the stone so that the crystal was obscured by one of the bezel sides. If you went with a very open setting or one with prongs, she may be able to see the crystal. You can ask the rep if the crystal would be obscured with the Eternal Love, or if the crystal will still be visible from the sides that are open.

Here are a few more considerations if you're really bothered by the clarity. With your budget you'll have to give on one of the C's so these are H's.

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3382621.htm

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3430623.htm

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3430625.htm

And one that looks really nice from BGD: I believe all his SI1's are eye clean.

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.070-h-si1-round-diamond-ags-104076722035#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/1/

Do you think that the drop from G to H would be noticeable?
 

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busines4u|1437570415|3906023 said:
Do you think that the drop from G to H would be noticeable?

Possibly in a side-by-side comparison of an H to a G, but an H is likely to appear very white and bright, especially an ACA in white metal.
 

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I have received my IdealScope from James Allen and I have it attached. Please look it over and give me your advice on them.

29443.jpg
 

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In the e-mail that was sent to me the gemologist did want me to know:

I am pleased to inform you that diamond 29443 ($8,500) is a beautiful choice. This diamond is a true “E” color with excellent brilliance that spreads evenly throughout, making the diamond very bright and lively. It faces up whitest out of the set and is eye clean to the untrained eye, though our gemologist did want to point out a feather on the table that was very hard to locate through his trained eye.
 

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The Idealscope image is beautiful! You will have great light performance out of the diamond. :appl:

I think that was a great find and this is the kind of diamond that will knock you and your GF's socks off!!!

I say go for it quick before someone else does, lol!!

Is there a setting you like on JA?
 

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JDDN|1437775550|3907086 said:
The Idealscope image is beautiful! You will have great light performance out of the diamond. :appl:

I think that was a great find and this is the kind of diamond that will knock you and your GF's socks off!!!

I say go for it quick before someone else does, lol!!

Is there a setting you like on JA?

Thanks for the feedback. I am still trying to pick out a setting that I think she would like. I am being told that she went to Jared's today to get sized and look at settings so I think I am going to head there tomorrow morning and check out what she picked and then I will find something similar on JA.

I keep looking at the diamond on JA and see the black spot in the middle of the table. The gemologist is telling me that this is not visible from the untrained eye. I guess the image is being shown at 20x so I think I should take his word for it. Just a tough one for me to accept for this amount of money
 

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Clarity is graded face up and the determination of whether or not the diamond is eye clean is by looking at it face up. Sometimes a diamond can be eye clean (face up), but the inclusions are easily seen from the side or through the pavilion. When I look at the 360 video, I can see the inclusion under the table. Something I didn't notice before is that it appears the inclusion might be located in a way that it's getting reflected by a pavilion facet. When this happens, the pavilion facet acts like a little mirror and it reflects into the other pavilion facets making it appear as if there are many inclusions. It's hard for me to tell for sure in the 360 video. Perhaps someone more seasoned than I can chime in as to whether the table inclusion is getting reflected in the pavilion or if the small inclusions I see are actually more inclusions. All this is to say, the stone may have visible inclusions from the side view even though the inclusions aren't visible from the face up view. Phew! This may or may not matter. It depends on the setting you/she chooses (if it's an open setting you'll be more likely to see the inclusions).

You may as well ask the gemologist if the inclusions are visible from the side or through the pavilion. You can also ask if the small spots in the pavilion are reflectors from the table inclusion.
 

the_mother_thing

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Can I just toss out a perspective on things we "pin" or 'favorite'? I happen to pin a LOT of styles, but not so much because I like or love THAT ring, but maybe an element of it ... could be the engraving, could be the basket, you get my drift. OP's intended might really just love that ring and everything about it, but I know if my SO we're to ever look at my Pinterest bling folder, he would be lost, or might actually wind up buying something I didn't love, but only liked one element of that piece. In situations like this, if it were me, I would prefer being proposed to with the diamond he picked out set in a very simple solitaire/temp setting so we could pick out the "forever" setting together. But that's just me ... :wavey:
 

busines4u

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I did ask the rep to ask the gemologist about the crystal. Below is what I sent via e-mail:

Are you able to ask the gemologist if this diamond has a white or black feather in the table? Can you also ask him to inspect the diamond to be sure it is “completely eye-clean”? What I mean by this is that I want him to inspect the diamond as close as he possibly can from his/her naked eye to see if any inclusions can be seen from top/bottom/side without the use of the scope (even if this means that he looks at the diamond an inch away from his/her face). Does this diamond have any visible dark crystals present, from the video it appears to have one in the table causing it to reflect throughout the diamond.

Below is the response I received:

Thank you for your prompt response. Our gemologist has inspected the entirety of the diamond. He has inspected as close as possible in order to provide you accurate information towards the diamonds appearance. Per his words, this diamond is eye clean. The feather we are referring to is transparent and not visible by the untrained eye. As our gemologist stated it was very difficult to find the feather with his trained eye.

A diamonds eye cleanliness is measured and inspected by holding the diamond 6 inches from your eyes. This diamond those not have any visible crystals present that would be of concern. Any inclusion that affects the diamonds appearance and compromises the diamonds eye cleanliness would have been stated and documented by our gemologist. Diamond 29443 was our gemologist top choice as he feels that this diamond will perform much better than the other. Let us know if we can answer any further questions or concerns. Hope this information helped you in your choice.

It is odd to me that there is never a mention of the dark crystal in the table, only the transparent feather. I feel like there is something fishy about this diamond, almost like it is too good to be true based on the cut/size/color/price of the stone. Also his response seems a bit contradicting since he states the gemologist looked as he close as possible and states that it is eye clean, then goes on to describe the definition of eye clean being 6 inches away.. Perhaps I am just thinking about this too much and over analyzing! :wall:
 
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