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Wow. But these are just the fringe supporters, right McCain? I mean, he''s proud of the people at his rallies!
 

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You know, I was really amazed last night during the debate, when the candidates were discussing the negative tone of the campaign. McCain had a PERFECT opportunity to condemn the things being said by some of the supporters at his rallies, and I don''t think he really took that opportunity. If I were him, I would not have said "I''m proud of the people at my rallies." I would have said, "I''m proud of most of my supporters, but there are a few who cross the line and I won''t stand for that kind of behavior." He could have handled that SO much better.
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Date: 10/16/2008 9:58:46 AM
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You know, I was really amazed last night during the debate, when the candidates were discussing the negative tone of the campaign. McCain had a PERFECT opportunity to condemn the things being said by some of the supporters at his rallies, and I don''t think he really took that opportunity. If I were him, I would not have said ''I''m proud of the people at my rallies.'' I would have said, ''I''m proud of most of my supporters, but there are a few who cross the line and I won''t stand for that kind of behavior.'' He could have handled that SO much better.
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Exactly.

If I were he, I would be doing everything humanly possible to diffuse what is going on, though he basically escalated (I won''t go as far as saying started) it himself (with his running mates help). I wouldn''t want any (possible) serious repercussions on my head....
 

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That is so sad. Out of fear, people can be so uninformed. If you don''t like Obama''s policies, fine. If you don''t like his platform or where he stands on the issues, fine. That''s what America is all about, having a choice and a right to freedom of speech. BUT please people, at least try and be informed. Obama is not a Muslim, he''s not a terrorist and he loves this country. None of that should be debated. Now his stance on the issues, that''s fair game, but fear and hatred based on skin color and religion, has no place anywhere, in my opinion.
 

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Date: 10/16/2008 10:25:25 AM
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That is so sad. Out of fear, people can be so uninformed. If you don''t like Obama''s policies, fine. If you don''t like his platform or where he stands on the issues, fine. That''s what America is all about, having a choice and a right to freedom of speech. BUT please people, at least try and be informed. Obama is not a Muslim, he''s not a terrorist and he loves this country. None of that should be debated. Now his stance on the issues, that''s fair game, but fear and hatred based on skin color and religion, has no place anywhere, in my opinion.
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I''m not surprised, though still disgusted.

Date: 10/16/2008 9:58:46 AM
Author: Irishgrrrl
You know, I was really amazed last night during the debate, when the candidates were discussing the negative tone of the campaign. McCain had a PERFECT opportunity to condemn the things being said by some of the supporters at his rallies, and I don''t think he really took that opportunity. If I were him, I would not have said ''I''m proud of the people at my rallies.'' I would have said, ''I''m proud of most of my supporters, but there are a few who cross the line and I won''t stand for that kind of behavior.'' He could have handled that SO much better.
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Instead, he pointed the finger at Obama for not immediately repudiating something negative a congressman said. My jaw hit the floor. I couldn''t believe it.
 

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I am appalled that people still think like this and am sad that they are not better informed. Even more so, I am terrified that these people are voting and feel sorry for children raised among such hate.
 

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unbelievable...i can''t believe that this level of hate and racism exists right here and right now. sad.
 

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Very sad, in this century there
Date: 10/16/2008 3:39:34 PM
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unbelievable...i can''t believe that this level of hate and racism exists right here and right now. sad.
Very sad. And, the fact is Obama is half caucasian.
 

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The people stating with absolute confidence that he is not Christian, that he is related to or has ties to Osama Bin Laden... where do they get this from???
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Date: 10/16/2008 4:41:37 PM
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The people stating with absolute confidence that he is not Christian, that he is related to or has ties to Osama Bin Laden... where do they get this from???
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I'm guessing a) their equally ignorant friends and family and/or b) poorly written chain emails.
 

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Date: 10/16/2008 4:45:05 PM
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Date: 10/16/2008 4:41:37 PM
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The people stating with absolute confidence that he is not Christian, that he is related to or has ties to Osama Bin Laden... where do they get this from???
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I''m guessing a) their equally ignorant friends and family and/or b) poorly written chain emails.
Sadly enough, I think you''re dead-on, EBree.
 

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Date: 10/16/2008 4:53:38 PM
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Date: 10/16/2008 4:45:05 PM
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Date: 10/16/2008 4:41:37 PM
Author: aprilcait
The people stating with absolute confidence that he is not Christian, that he is related to or has ties to Osama Bin Laden... where do they get this from???
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I'm guessing a) their equally ignorant friends and family and/or b) poorly written chain emails.
Sadly enough, I think you're dead-on, EBree.
Unfortunately, some people will believe ANYTHING they read/hear, no matter where they read/hear it. And of course, there are people with less-than-decent intentions who know how to exploit those people. It's very sad, IMO.
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Date: 10/16/2008 4:53:38 PM
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Date: 10/16/2008 4:45:05 PM
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Date: 10/16/2008 4:41:37 PM
Author: aprilcait
The people stating with absolute confidence that he is not Christian, that he is related to or has ties to Osama Bin Laden... where do they get this from???
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I''m guessing a) their equally ignorant friends and family and/or b) poorly written chain emails.
Sadly enough, I think you''re dead-on, EBree.
Or perhaps they are getting their information from oshinbreeze''s lovely thread.
 

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10/16/2008 4:01:32 PM
Author: hibiscus

Very sad, in this century there
Very sad. And, the fact is Obama is half caucasian.


Well...this is off-topic. (Pardon me, everyone!) But I couldn't help but fall out of my chair when I saw your ring, hibiscus! Are there any other photographs of it on Pricescope? I actually tried clicking on your icon to see if it would get bigger so that I could see it better! It is absolutely gorgeous!!!

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Date: 10/16/2008 5:06:43 PM
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Very sad, in this century there
Very sad. And, the fact is Obama is half caucasian.


Well...this is off-topic. (Pardon me, everyone!) But I couldn''t help but fall out of my chair when I saw your ring, hibiscus! Are there any other photographs of it on Pricescope? I actually tried clicking on your icon to see if it would get bigger so that I could see it better! It is absolutely gorgeous!!!

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Sorry everyone, off topic reply. Hi Deborah! Thank you!!!
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Its under show me the ring (Marquise) & https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/hibiscus-here-the-center-round-center-stone-is-finally-replaced-past-is-put-to-rest.94172/

Back to topic, speaking of absurdity http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/huntleybrown.asp
 

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Date: 10/16/2008 9:58:46 AM
Author: Irishgrrrl
You know, I was really amazed last night during the debate, when the candidates were discussing the negative tone of the campaign. McCain had a PERFECT opportunity to condemn the things being said by some of the supporters at his rallies, and I don't think he really took that opportunity. If I were him, I would not have said 'I'm proud of the people at my rallies.' I would have said, 'I'm proud of most of my supporters, but there are a few who cross the line and I won't stand for that kind of behavior.' He could have handled that SO much better.
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I think McCain's response to this concern was disgraceful. I guess he just doesn't understand--or care
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Date: 10/16/2008 4:55:06 PM
Author: MaggieB
Date: 10/16/2008 4:53:38 PM

Author: aprilcait


Date: 10/16/2008 4:45:05 PM

Author: EBree



Date: 10/16/2008 4:41:37 PM

Author: aprilcait

The people stating with absolute confidence that he is not Christian, that he is related to or has ties to Osama Bin Laden... where do they get this from???
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I''m guessing a) their equally ignorant friends and family and/or b) poorly written chain emails.

Sadly enough, I think you''re dead-on, EBree.

Or perhaps they are getting their information from oshinbreeze''s lovely thread.

Let''s try to avoid personal attacks, okay?
 

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Ebree, I don't think you made any personal attacks.

"drill, baby, drill" makes me sad.
 

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Date: 10/17/2008 1:21:02 AM
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Date: 10/16/2008 4:55:06 PM
Author: MaggieB

Date: 10/16/2008 4:53:38 PM

Author: aprilcait



Date: 10/16/2008 4:45:05 PM

Author: EBree




Date: 10/16/2008 4:41:37 PM

Author: aprilcait

The people stating with absolute confidence that he is not Christian, that he is related to or has ties to Osama Bin Laden... where do they get this from???
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I''m guessing a) their equally ignorant friends and family and/or b) poorly written chain emails.

Sadly enough, I think you''re dead-on, EBree.

Or perhaps they are getting their information from oshinbreeze''s lovely thread.

Let''s try to avoid personal attacks, okay?
It''s a personal attack to call a racist ignorant?
 

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Oh wait, I read the response to Ebree first, but now I get it. I''m getting the personal attack comment for mentioning oshinbreeze''s thread. For clarification, I was pointing out that people who have spouted off baseless, offensive, racist comments to me this year have said, I got it in an email. Or a Youtube video that a random unknown person posted. Then they spout this garbage as facts. I used oshinbreeze''s thread as an example of a smear campaign because the videos included are a smear campaign. If I were going to personally attack oshinbreeze, I would say something like, I don''t take political advice from someone whose avatar shows them frantically spanking Tinkerbell. It''s not a level of maturity that I relate to.
 

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Date: 10/17/2008 1:21:02 AM
Author: SarahLovesJS
Date: 10/16/2008 4:55:06 PM

Author: MaggieB

Date: 10/16/2008 4:53:38 PM

Author: aprilcait

Date: 10/16/2008 4:45:05 PM

Author: EBree

Date: 10/16/2008 4:41:37 PM

Author: aprilcait

The people stating with absolute confidence that he is not Christian, that he is related to or has ties to Osama Bin Laden... where do they get this from???
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I''m guessing a) their equally ignorant friends and family and/or b) poorly written chain emails.

Sadly enough, I think you''re dead-on, EBree.

Or perhaps they are getting their information from oshinbreeze''s lovely thread.

Let''s try to avoid personal attacks, okay?

I guess I must just be terrible at identifying personal attacks, because I fail to see one here. I guess mentioning someone''s thread by name (instead of taking the passive aggressive way out and not naming names) makes it a personal attack?
 

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Date: 10/17/2008 9:37:08 AM
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Date: 10/17/2008 1:21:02 AM

Author: SarahLovesJS

Date: 10/16/2008 4:55:06 PM


Author: MaggieB


Date: 10/16/2008 4:53:38 PM


Author: aprilcait


Date: 10/16/2008 4:45:05 PM


Author: EBree


Date: 10/16/2008 4:41:37 PM


Author: aprilcait


The people stating with absolute confidence that he is not Christian, that he is related to or has ties to Osama Bin Laden... where do they get this from???
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I''m guessing a) their equally ignorant friends and family and/or b) poorly written chain emails.


Sadly enough, I think you''re dead-on, EBree.


Or perhaps they are getting their information from oshinbreeze''s lovely thread.


Let''s try to avoid personal attacks, okay?


I guess I must just be terrible at identifying personal attacks, because I fail to see one here. I guess mentioning someone''s thread by name (instead of taking the passive aggressive way out and not naming names) makes it a personal attack?
Thing I am just going by what Ali said, please refer to that. She asked us not to call or comment about posters specifically, I am trying to help maggie out. Please talk to Ali if you have an issue with that.
 

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I''d really like to hear a response to the video from anyone who supports McCain''s run for president or has been to a rally. I recently drove past a Palin rally in NH and counted 5 posters that had the n-bomb written on them. Is my drive-by view of boiling racism and Al-Jazeera''s edited video accurate? I hope not, we will need to put this country back together in a few weeks...
 

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Date: 10/17/2008 2:59:47 PM
Author: SarahLovesJS
Date: 10/17/2008 9:37:08 AM
Author: thing2of2
Date: 10/17/2008 1:21:02 AM
Author: SarahLovesJS
Date: 10/16/2008 4:55:06 PM
Author: MaggieB
Date: 10/16/2008 4:53:38 PM
Author: aprilcait
Date: 10/16/2008 4:45:05 PM
Author: EBree
Date: 10/16/2008 4:41:37 PM
Author: aprilcait
The people stating with absolute confidence that he is not Christian, that he is related to or has ties to Osama Bin Laden... where do they get this from???
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I''m guessing a) their equally ignorant friends and family and/or b) poorly written chain emails.
Sadly enough, I think you''re dead-on, EBree.
Or perhaps they are getting their information from oshinbreeze''s lovely thread.
Let''s try to avoid personal attacks, okay?
I guess I must just be terrible at identifying personal attacks, because I fail to see one here. I guess mentioning someone''s thread by name (instead of taking the passive aggressive way out and not naming names) makes it a personal attack?
Thing I am just going by what Ali said, please refer to that. She asked us not to call or comment about posters specifically, I am trying to help maggie out. Please talk to Ali if you have an issue with that.

Again, I fail to see where oshinbreez was attacked. Her thread was mentioned as one such example of smear campaigns, which Maggie further explained to you.

Also, I believe Ali is the moderator, not you. If she believes that there is a personal attack I am sure she will tell us, and I will certainly listen to her.
 

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Date: 10/18/2008 11:00:05 AM
Author: thing2of2
Date: 10/17/2008 2:59:47 PM

Author: SarahLovesJS

Date: 10/17/2008 9:37:08 AM

Author: thing2of2

Date: 10/17/2008 1:21:02 AM

Author: SarahLovesJS

Date: 10/16/2008 4:55:06 PM

Author: MaggieB

Date: 10/16/2008 4:53:38 PM

Author: aprilcait

Date: 10/16/2008 4:45:05 PM

Author: EBree

Date: 10/16/2008 4:41:37 PM

Author: aprilcait

The people stating with absolute confidence that he is not Christian, that he is related to or has ties to Osama Bin Laden... where do they get this from???
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38.gif

I''m guessing a) their equally ignorant friends and family and/or b) poorly written chain emails.

Sadly enough, I think you''re dead-on, EBree.

Or perhaps they are getting their information from oshinbreeze''s lovely thread.

Let''s try to avoid personal attacks, okay?

I guess I must just be terrible at identifying personal attacks, because I fail to see one here. I guess mentioning someone''s thread by name (instead of taking the passive aggressive way out and not naming names) makes it a personal attack?

Thing I am just going by what Ali said, please refer to that. She asked us not to call or comment about posters specifically, I am trying to help maggie out. Please talk to Ali if you have an issue with that.


Again, I fail to see where oshinbreez was attacked. Her thread was mentioned as one such example of smear campaigns, which Maggie further explained to you.


Also, I believe Ali is the moderator, not you. If she believes that there is a personal attack I am sure she will tell us, and I will certainly listen to her.

Okay, no problem. I will not try to help anyone out anymore. Trust me, it will not happen again as obviously it is not wanted.
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Date: 10/17/2008 7:29:19 AM
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Author: MaggieB


Date: 10/16/2008 4:53:38 PM


Author: aprilcait




Date: 10/16/2008 4:45:05 PM


Author: EBree





Date: 10/16/2008 4:41:37 PM


Author: aprilcait


The people stating with absolute confidence that he is not Christian, that he is related to or has ties to Osama Bin Laden... where do they get this from???
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I''m guessing a) their equally ignorant friends and family and/or b) poorly written chain emails.


Sadly enough, I think you''re dead-on, EBree.


Or perhaps they are getting their information from oshinbreeze''s lovely thread.


Let''s try to avoid personal attacks, okay?

It''s a personal attack to call a racist ignorant?

Um to call another poster ignorant and racist is a personal attack for future reference, btw. But with that note as I expressed to Thing I won''t try to help you out. So I''ll stop.
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