Renewed search for an OEC deal

[Kim N]

After trying on a lot of different rings, I've changed my search parameters for a large OEC. My budget is max $17K (that's the absolute hard budget) for a 9.5mm+, K-L-M by GIA standards, eye-clean OEC. Is this even possible through the deal paths?

And if any of you deal gurus come across anything like this, I would really really appreciate if you could let me know!

 

[Dreamer_D]

Kim do you still have a DB listing so i can send you some links?

I think hitting 9.5mm is not really possible though, for that budget, unless you are willing to drop a lot in color or wait 10 years

 

[Cluless]

Did you see this one? Could always make an offer.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Beautiful-2-93-ct-Old-European-Cut-Vintage-Diamond-Ring-in-Platinum-/251115983924?pt=Diamond_Solitaire_Rings&hash=item3a77add434

 

[Kim N]

Yes, that one is really beautiful, and I'm certainly considering it. Thanks, Cluless!

 

[stci]

Did you see this one? Could always make an offer.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Beautiful-2-93-ct-Old-European-Cut-Vintage-Diamond-Ring-in-Platinum-/251115983924?pt=Diamond_Solitaire_Rings&hash=item3a77add434

What a beauty! Wow! If you got it don't forget to send us tons of pics!

 

[junebug17]

I saw this one and thought I'd post it - don't know anything about the seller, but the feedback is good - stone looks pretty tinted in pics but I thought I'd post it just so you could check it out. The description mentions chips, not sure how visible they are. The return policy is good, 60 days. It's over your budget, but seller is accepting offers.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1920s-Art-Deco-3-64-Carat-Old-European-Cut-Diamond-Engagement-Ring-Platinum-/271036915415?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D1997321099937948729%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D3%26

 

[Kim N]

Thanks, junebug! I love the crown and size on that one. I contacted the seller, and he said it was not eye-clean. There is a visible feather in addition to the chips. It looks like a nice diamond otherwise.

 

[junebug17]

Thanks, junebug! I love the crown and size on that one. I contacted the seller, and he said it was not eye-clean. There is a visible feather in addition to the chips. It looks like a nice diamond otherwise.

Ah, ok! Dang - I'll be on the look-out for you Kim and post anything I come across; I've been browsing around a lot on the internet lately, even though I shouldn't be lol!

 

[Kim N]

Yeah, I've seen a lot of stones that come so close to being right, except for one thing or another. Thanks again, junebug, I would very much appreciate if you could post anything you come across!

 

[ForteKitty]

That 3.64 cannot possibly be an L. If I had balls, I'd be willing to bet them both. That diamond is at least an O-P, but I'm betting it has a brown tinge, which makes it look even darker.

 

[ruby59]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Beautiful-3-20-ct-Old-European-Cut-Vintage-Diamond-Pendant-/251122755573?pt=US_Fine_Necklaces_Pendants&hash=item3a781527f5

A little over budget, but you could make an offer. Not that knowledgable about OECs, but it sure looks beautiful.

 

[Kim N]

FK, you're right. The 3.64 does look very tinted.

Thanks, ruby, that diamond looks beautiful! I'm considering it, but I think it may not face up large enough.

 

[Cluless]

Don't know this vendor, but check this one out.

http://fineantiquediamonds.co.uk/20ed11/product_info.php?products_id=115

 

[kelpie]

Unfortunately your expectations are unrealistic. Here's something that may be close for $5000 more.
http://www.solomonbrothers.com/DiamondDetail.aspx?sku=5H6995Y6&affiliate=9318613A-AD0C-4530-A456-0409DFEFB8DE%20&utm_source=PriceScope

 

[ruby59]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-3-Carat-Transitional-VS-Diamond-Engagement-Ring-Mill-Grain-Platinum-Fine-/370645385151?pt=Diamond_Solitaire_Rings&hash=item564c2fbfbf

Not sure if you would consider a transitional cut diamond. This would meet your dimension requirements. You could always make an offer.

 

[Kim N]

Thanks very much, Cluless, kelpie, and ruby! I'm going to look into those. I have not heard of that vendor either, Cluless, but I'll check them out. And I would definitely consider a transitional cut. Thanks for all your help!

 

[ruby59]

Clueless, that designer sure has some things, but I noticed that the costs are not in American currency.. At the bottom, the web designer is from Scotland.

 

[ruby59]

http://www.ebay.com/sch/Vintage-Antique-Jewelry-/48579/i.html?_sop=10&_ssn=empire26&_nkw=diamond&rt=nc


I thought I would point out this seller. He lists as art deco, but european cut diamonds in the description. So anyone doing a search might miss him. Those earrings are gorgeous and he lists several big oec's in the high 8 dimensions. Just thought I would point him out as his prices seem reasonable.

 

[ruby59]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ESTATE-ANTIQUE-ENGAGEMENT-RING-CONSIGNOR-EMERGENCY-PRESENT-ALL-REASONABLE-OFFERS-/140792145623?pt=Diamond_Solitaire_Rings&hash=item20c7dda6d7

This one is nice, and it has a GIA report.

Edited to add: One picture looks dark. Is depth too low causing head obstruction?????

 

[Kim N]

Thanks, ruby, I have been following that seller and inquiring about a few of their stones. The stone in the last link has a huge table (64%) and a very flat crown, so not a typical OEC.

 

[ForteKitty]

That last one is a poorly cut RB.

 

[Dreamer_D]

That last one is a poorly cut RB.

I agree.

In my humble opinion, it is a waste of time to look for anything that has been on ebay for a long time. The only way you will get anything even close to what you want will be to watch evay daily and catch something you can BIN a low ball offer on, or something on auction. Most other things that have been languishing are doing so for a reason.

 

[ariel144]

this one is 8.75 mm 2.64c I/J VS1 under $16000 61.7% depth which makes it face up nicely for a antique cut

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TRUE-ANTIQUE-FLASHY-CLASSY-2-85CT-LARGE-ROUND-DIAMOND-PLATINUM-ENGAGEMENT-RING-/130764572989?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e722d093d

On USAcerted there is an 2.74c EGL USA certed I SI1 OEC that the spread is 9.1x 9. and it is $17,400, I would have GOG call this one in for you. Jon has 2 he just called in for someone else. did you see the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYcJNyCLjtU&list=UUEV7slr-i-VduBBnfv9MxhA&index=1&feature=plcp


Total Price 17422.45 USD
Shape Old European
Carat Weight 2.74 ct
Lab / Cert ID >> EGLUSA / 60898908D
Check for Online Certificate







Color: I - Near Colorless

I


Color slightly detectable. An excellent value.

Clarity: SI1 - Slightly included

SI1

Inclusions are easily visible under 10x magnification and may be visible with the unaided eye.

Cut Grade --
Depth % 59.2 %
Table % 54 %
Symmetry Good
Polish Very Good
Girdle Thickness Extremely Thin to Medium
Culet Size Extremely Large
Fluorescence --
Dimensions 9.15x9x5.37 mm
L/W Ratio 1.02
Stock Number 4358

 

[Kim N]

Dreamer, very true, and that's what I'm going to do.

Thanks so much, Ariel. The first one is really lovely, and I have it in mind as a definite possibility. I'm just holding out a bit for something a little bigger diameter-wise. I'm going to consider the second one--it does look like it has potential. I did not see that new video of Jon's, so thanks! That K looks amazing. So far, though, I've found that going to any retail vendor will not get me the size I'm looking for in my budget. And obviously, even going through eBay is difficult.

 

[ariel144]

Here is a picture of that 2.74 I SI1 and the lab report. the white inclusion is prongable. Looks nice to me: I think Jon will call this in for you and honor that price $17,400. Anyway, I know usacerted will send it to an appraiser in your town for you to view if you go through them. I don't think you will find anything larger in your price range. 9.1mm

http://www.exceldiamonds.com/Diamonds-1/EGL-USA-Graded-European-Cut-Diamond-2-74-Carat-I-Color-SI1-Clarity-140033.html

 

[Cluless]

Kim would you consider a cushion cut o-p? I would make him an offer or ask if he's willing to sell without setting

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/3-05-ct-Center-Antique-Old-Cushion-Diamond-Ring-18K-Rose-Gold-Halo-Setting-/320981279167?pt=Diamond_Solitaire_Rings&hash=item4abbf9a1bf

 

[Kim N]

Thanks, ariel and Cluless. The 2.74 picture does look nice, and you may be right that that's as large as my budget will allow me to go. I like the color a lot too. Cluless, rounds look much better on me than cushions, but thanks for the heads-up. I wouldn't mind going down to O-P if I had to.

 

[Cluless]

Hey Kim they're calling this one a Rb I'm no expert but seems more oec to me check it out


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Antique-GIA-Certified-4-13ct-VS1-Diamond-PlatinuM-Deco-Engagement-Ring-/200821417867?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ec1e3a78b

 

[jerichosmom]

Kim, have you seen this one? Slightly smaller than what you want...around 9mm..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-07CT-1910s-EDWARDIAN-ANTIQUE-VINTAGE-SOLITAIRE-DIAMOND-ENGAGEMENT-WEDDING-RING-/380474942603?pt=Diamond_Solitaire_Rings&hash=item589612e48b

 

[Kim N]

Thanks, Cluless and jerichosmom. Cluless, that one actually looks more like an rb to me. The proportions are rb-like, and the lower girdle facets are not chunky. But it sure is huge! jerichosmom, that diamond looks beautiful. I'm going to keep it in mind in case I can't find anything bigger. By the way, I love your ring. The stone is gorgeous, and the setting is exquisite!