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Elrohwen|1296162726|2834914 said:It's a loaded question which is why it doesn't work - clearly nobody would choose the second option.
This.
Elrohwen|1296162726|2834914 said:It's a loaded question which is why it doesn't work - clearly nobody would choose the second option.
Sha|1296180860|2835271 said:I can't think of another object whose main purpose is to kill.
ksinger|1296182474|2835294 said:movie zombie|1296181002|2835273 said:Cuso, i think this is an experiment in trying to educate anti's.......yes, i have an interest other than color stones. the guns in this house are mine, not my husband's. the sheriff even recommended the gun store where i bought some of them. politically i am a liberal....an endangered species on most forums associated with guns........ but i enjoy them and enjoy going to the range. i even enjoy cleaning them!
some here have had their opinion changed when they were threatened, their home broken into, stalked, etc....in other words, when their person actually was in physical danger. until then most think the police will protect them.
in my instance, i grew up with them in the house. i've had a gun of one kind or another most of my life. i've never shot at a living thing....and i hope i never have to.
MoZo
ps if i'm wrong re this being an educational ploy, i apologize. if it is, well, imo it wasn't well worded or thought out.
Well, we don't do gun forums, but even outside of them, there are still a few liberals who are OK with guns. You don't HAVE to be a conservative to not hate guns. However, gun CULTURE is something I really don't want to be around for any length of time. Too many whackos. Unfortunately, the vast majority of guns selling right now are not collector pieces, or shooter enthusiast guns, but are cheap, plastic, and paranoid. The last 20 years has change the gun biz quite a lot we're finding, and not for the better.
bebe|1296187415|2835394 said:live in Texas
have lived around guns our entire life
we have guns in our home
we are both licensed to carry concealed handguns
I can shoot well
BUT
would I use it?
I'd like to think I would, but you never know what you will
do faced in a life threatening situation
even if I protected myself, I know I would still be faced with
a major legal situation. So if I shoot, I'd better be sure.
katamari|1296193370|2835457 said:I would never use a gun to harm someone. Ever. Under any circumstance.
Gypsy|1296175951|2835203 said:iLander|1296174399|2835179 said:bee*|1296172302|2835130 said:Wow it scares me that so many people are walking around with guns. I wouldn't even know where to get one and even our police are unarmed. To answer the question, I'd rather go without a gun and see how I get on!
Your police are unarmed? Where is that?
In most of the UK. Specifically in this case, Ireland. I like it.
Sha|1296181719|2835283 said:kenny|1296180347|2835268 said:I know nothing about proper psychology but if you think about it . . . what mental impairment can be more serious than what gets a person to commit suicide?
'Mentally impaired' implies that people who commit suicide are ill, and thus, vastly different from us regular folk. I don't believe that. There are so many life circumstances that can drive ordinary people to the brink of despair and cause them to want to end their lives - e.g terminal illness, chronic abuse/domestic violence, feelings of worthlessness and low self-esteem, constant bullying, depression etc.
Sure - not everyone who has these experiences will commit suicide, but people are different. Not everyone has the coping skills, support, and resources needed to help them get through a crisis. That doesn't make them mentally impaired.
House Cat|1296228487|2835656 said:Sha|1296181719|2835283 said:kenny|1296180347|2835268 said:I know nothing about proper psychology but if you think about it . . . what mental impairment can be more serious than what gets a person to commit suicide?
'Mentally impaired' implies that people who commit suicide are ill, and thus, vastly different from us regular folk. I don't believe that. There are so many life circumstances that can drive ordinary people to the brink of despair and cause them to want to end their lives - e.g terminal illness, chronic abuse/domestic violence, feelings of worthlessness and low self-esteem, constant bullying, depression etc.
Sure - not everyone who has these experiences will commit suicide, but people are different. Not everyone has the coping skills, support, and resources needed to help them get through a crisis. That doesn't make them mentally impaired.
Thank you Sha.
Kenny, despair, even extreme despair, does not equal "mentally impaired."
dragonfly411|1296228937|2835659 said:House Cat|1296228487|2835656 said:Sha|1296181719|2835283 said:kenny|1296180347|2835268 said:I know nothing about proper psychology but if you think about it . . . what mental impairment can be more serious than what gets a person to commit suicide?
'Mentally impaired' implies that people who commit suicide are ill, and thus, vastly different from us regular folk. I don't believe that. There are so many life circumstances that can drive ordinary people to the brink of despair and cause them to want to end their lives - e.g terminal illness, chronic abuse/domestic violence, feelings of worthlessness and low self-esteem, constant bullying, depression etc.
Sure - not everyone who has these experiences will commit suicide, but people are different. Not everyone has the coping skills, support, and resources needed to help them get through a crisis. That doesn't make them mentally impaired.
Thank you Sha.
Kenny, despair, even extreme despair, does not equal "mentally impaired."
Sorry to jump in randomly, but wouldn't an impairment imply that the person is not able to use that part of themselves properly? Despair impedes the ability to think clearly. That's an impairment to me. Just offering one way to look at the definition.
diva rose|1296236310|2835761 said:A mental impairment in the medical world usually refers to someone with a mental/cognitive/intellectual disability.
Although it's common to see people use the terms 'mentally imparied' or 'disabled'. The politically correct term to use is - a person with a mental impairment or a person with a disability.
Having a mental impariment/disability does not mean you are ill.
People with a disability don't commit suicide unless they are suffering from a mental health issue/illness.
Mental health issues and a mental impairment are different things.
Mental health issues are disorders such as schizophrenia, Eating Disorders, OCD, Personality Disorders, Depression, Bipolar Disorder etc. People with mental health issues are usually medically and legally by law considered mentally unwell/ill.
Depression which is considered a mental health issue is strongly linked to suicide.
kenny|1296184604|2835338 said:Sha|1296180860|2835271 said:I can't think of another object whose main purpose is to kill.
Barry Manilow CDs.
kenny|1296184604|2835338 said:Sha|1296180860|2835271 said:I can't think of another object whose main purpose is to kill.
Barry Manilow CDs.
Sha|1296237458|2835782 said:diva rose|1296236310|2835761 said:A mental impairment in the medical world usually refers to someone with a mental/cognitive/intellectual disability.
Although it's common to see people use the terms 'mentally imparied' or 'disabled'. The politically correct term to use is - a person with a mental impairment or a person with a disability.
Having a mental impariment/disability does not mean you are ill.
People with a disability don't commit suicide unless they are suffering from a mental health issue/illness.
Mental health issues and a mental impairment are different things.
Mental health issues are disorders such as schizophrenia, Eating Disorders, OCD, Personality Disorders, Depression, Bipolar Disorder etc. People with mental health issues are usually medically and legally by law considered mentally unwell/ill.
Depression which is considered a mental health issue is strongly linked to suicide.
Interesting info, diva. Thanks for adding!
I think you are right about bipolar disorder and schiz.diva rose|1296238758|2835803 said:Sha|1296237458|2835782 said:diva rose|1296236310|2835761 said:A mental impairment in the medical world usually refers to someone with a mental/cognitive/intellectual disability.
Although it's common to see people use the terms 'mentally imparied' or 'disabled'. The politically correct term to use is - a person with a mental impairment or a person with a disability.
Having a mental impariment/disability does not mean you are ill.
People with a disability don't commit suicide unless they are suffering from a mental health issue/illness.
Mental health issues and a mental impairment are different things.
Mental health issues are disorders such as schizophrenia, Eating Disorders, OCD, Personality Disorders, Depression, Bipolar Disorder etc. People with mental health issues are usually medically and legally by law considered mentally unwell/ill.
Depression which is considered a mental health issue is strongly linked to suicide.
Interesting info, diva. Thanks for adding!
np
I need to correct the info though - cause I think actually some of the mental health issues such as schizophrenia and bipolar disorder are termed under 'mental impairment'. It's confusing.
Perhaps we'll be fortunate enough for one of our lovely PS psychologists/therapists to clarify this.
dragonfly411|1296228937|2835659 said:House Cat|1296228487|2835656 said:Sha|1296181719|2835283 said:kenny|1296180347|2835268 said:I know nothing about proper psychology but if you think about it . . . what mental impairment can be more serious than what gets a person to commit suicide?
'Mentally impaired' implies that people who commit suicide are ill, and thus, vastly different from us regular folk. I don't believe that. There are so many life circumstances that can drive ordinary people to the brink of despair and cause them to want to end their lives - e.g terminal illness, chronic abuse/domestic violence, feelings of worthlessness and low self-esteem, constant bullying, depression etc.
Sure - not everyone who has these experiences will commit suicide, but people are different. Not everyone has the coping skills, support, and resources needed to help them get through a crisis. That doesn't make them mentally impaired.
Thank you Sha.
Kenny, despair, even extreme despair, does not equal "mentally impaired."
Sorry to jump in randomly, but wouldn't an impairment imply that the person is not able to use that part of themselves properly? Despair impedes the ability to think clearly. That's an impairment to me. Just offering one way to look at the definition.
soberguy|1296265462|2836231 said:I have a gun, carry a gun, and will use one when necessary without question. I will not allow a criminal to harm me, or those about me. I believe I am responsible for my safety, not the government of the United States. I do not need to be babysat thank you very much, I'm an adult. So, if you rob a bank, or a store in my town, or break into my home, I will shoot you. I have a .45 with hydroshocks, and I shoot to kill in as few shots as possible.
packrat|1296267579|2836259 said:Scares me more that the local drug dealer/gang member/criminal can have one in his pocket at the grocery store. I figure they're the ones that shouldn't have them.