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What is this "six sided crystal structure" in a sapphire?

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haagen_dazs

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Hi all
Could someone explain what this six sided crystal structure is?
Has is to do with the lattice structure?
How and when does this present itself?
I am guessing this is undesirable in a gemstone?

What other gemstones will potentially suffer from this phenomena ?

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Very interesting gem! I have not seen anything similar.

My guess is that it is a ghost of some sort created during the crystal growth.
 

haagen_dazs

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any technical experts here who might be able to shed some light on the six sided crystal?
 

MakingTheGrade

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Did you ask Dana? (the seller)
 

Richard M.

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It''s either a sapphire crystal inside another sapphire crystal or the "core" of the crystal the stone was cut from. Sapphire (corundum) crystallizes in the hexagonal system. This is a really neat collectible -- there''s no question that this stone is natural!

Portions of six-sided crystal structures often show up in sapphires as color-zoning. Straight-sided, hexagonal angular zoning is proof of natural crystallization. Most synthetic corundum shows curved structure, like the grooves on an old vinyl phonograph record.

Richard M. (Rick Martin)
 

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This is a really cool inclusion; something unique to add to one’s collection for fun.
 

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Sorry for no getting back with your question Mark/haagen_dazs but I got the H1N1 about 2 weeks ago and it kicked my rear...

In my humble opinion it is what we call a ghost crystal or as Rick said a crystal in a crystal. It did not show up in the rough material; or at least with refractol and fiber-optic light; it did not rear it''s head until I was pre-polishing the table.
The sapphire was from my old contact in Natal South Africa and it was supposed to be un-heated Madagascar material; I agree with the un-heated part; and from its color and secondary color I have no doubt the location is correct also.

It is a neat gem; of course it would normally go for much more without the inclusion if you would call it that; but it is a neat gem and only shows the ghost crystal when you tilt it a certain way. Other than that; the parcel turned out some very nice gems.
Really neat under 60x microscope.

I like neat inclusions... As to other gems that will display crystals; well most if not all can and will show other mineral crystals; and some will show crystals inclusions of the same type; but corundum to me show it more often. I have a complete collection of crystal inclusions in other gem minerals; negative crystals, en hydras, en solids, both together, the list goes on and on; it can be habit forming
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But I put that one on there as they are kind of neat for the collector...
 

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I totally want it just for that crystal!
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glitterata

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Me too, I think that''s so cool.
 

MakingTheGrade

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I caved. Just bought it
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picture (for those too lazy to click a link
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I think the the ghost crystal is just too cool. Color doesn't seem too bad either
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Date: 11/30/2009 10:39:15 AM
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I caved. Just bought it
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Awesome!!!!
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Looking forward to pictures. It seems to be a pretty color.
 

MakingTheGrade

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Thanks. I am a little worried it might be overly saturated and dark but we will see!
 

Novel

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Oooh, fun! Can''t wait to see IRL pics!
 

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Date: 11/30/2009 11:24:39 AM
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Oooh, fun! Can''t wait to see IRL pics!

I can''t wait to see it too!

How long did it take for your spinels to get to you?
 

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Super cool! Can''t wait to see pics when it arrives.
 

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Wowee...I can’t wait to see pictures of the new stone too. I think the inclusion is really cool.
 

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Haha, part of me wanted to start a "What do you think about this sapphire?" thread, and see if anybody replied with "Well, there's an inclusion in it."

That way I could say "I know, and I Love it!"

I bet Dana's collection of inclusions are pretty cool, I'd love to see a collection like that under the microscope. I bet it's be really educational (and pretty).
 

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Date: 11/30/2009 5:58:43 PM
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Date: 11/30/2009 11:24:39 AM

Author: Novel

Oooh, fun! Can''t wait to see IRL pics!


I can''t wait to see it too!


How long did it take for your spinels to get to you?

He shipped the day after I ordered them, and then Thanksgiving happened and I wasn''t in the office. So, is not long a reasonable answer?
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Seriously, five days at the most, with Thanksgiving, etc. Woo!
 

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Date: 11/30/2009 10:39:15 AM
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I caved. Just bought it
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hahaha =)
do take lots of photos of the stone at various angles =)
 
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