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Ideal_Rock
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Three questions and a comment:
1) Regarding the topic of tipping, do you think there''s any relationship between those who will more readily tip in excess of 20%, and those who will more readily shop expressly for SuperIdeal, vs. Ideal, (to the extent these differences are clear.) For example, you could say that in either case, you get the same good meal/appearance, and that the differential is optional, from that point of view.
2 ) More broadly....now what''s that difference again?
a) For the current/past GIA & AGS standards, and certification, to what extent has it been different than it will be? For example, to the extent the differences will always be relative between these two certifying agencies, to the extent diamonds previously/up to now have been selected to be graded by GIA vs AGS, to what extent has that difference been telling. For example, again, many of Nice Ice''s options are certed by both GIA as well as AGS, and I pick on them specifically because of their defining as an institution dedicated to quality. So, since AGS designations have been available already, with a certain cache coming with them, how to explain the quality that has already apparently been available with GIA?
b) Per Paul''s comments here and elsewhere, to what extent will there now be a bright red line differentiating those diamonds newly available between these certifying agencies, on the logic that diamonds that for those diamonds that would be different enough to be AGS 0, it would be fool hearty to submit them to GIA, and just be grouped among the others.
c) Re a recent discussion about WF''s A Cut Above vs their Expert Selection...with deference to Lost Dog''s typology...see point #3 please right below...
3) I wonder if the promise isn''t in what RockDoc spoke of recently in Leonid''s survey:
"Despite writing and studying and researching on the part of the consumer, the really lacking element was the ability to discern the difference by sight. However, once I educated her eyes to what to look for, what characteristics were desirable but yet subtle and difficult for the untrained eye to see, the result was irrefutable, and she had to get an Eightstar, which she did."
GIA does present/talk a good game. So does Paul. And so do so many here, including Jim Schultz and Dave Atlas and others on the subtleties or lack thereof between the best and the very good. If we regard ourselves somewhat as phenomonologists here, wouldn''t it be good if some kind of education were possible and could be brought forward, to help us find the value in going the distance with our dollar, for a diamond that has just those certain special qualities, such that -- without which -- those qualities might just go unnoticed.
Finally, regarding Charlie the Tuna...do any of you remember those old commercials. Frankly there needn''t, as a practical matter, have to be a difference between those diamonds that are selected because we have good taste, versus those selected because we can appreciate that they look good. But, if we were to seek to to draw a bright line, on the topic of Superideals in particular, getting assistance in a place like Pricescope on these details (that point specifically to our experience of them) can only help.
1) Regarding the topic of tipping, do you think there''s any relationship between those who will more readily tip in excess of 20%, and those who will more readily shop expressly for SuperIdeal, vs. Ideal, (to the extent these differences are clear.) For example, you could say that in either case, you get the same good meal/appearance, and that the differential is optional, from that point of view.
2 ) More broadly....now what''s that difference again?
a) For the current/past GIA & AGS standards, and certification, to what extent has it been different than it will be? For example, to the extent the differences will always be relative between these two certifying agencies, to the extent diamonds previously/up to now have been selected to be graded by GIA vs AGS, to what extent has that difference been telling. For example, again, many of Nice Ice''s options are certed by both GIA as well as AGS, and I pick on them specifically because of their defining as an institution dedicated to quality. So, since AGS designations have been available already, with a certain cache coming with them, how to explain the quality that has already apparently been available with GIA?
b) Per Paul''s comments here and elsewhere, to what extent will there now be a bright red line differentiating those diamonds newly available between these certifying agencies, on the logic that diamonds that for those diamonds that would be different enough to be AGS 0, it would be fool hearty to submit them to GIA, and just be grouped among the others.
c) Re a recent discussion about WF''s A Cut Above vs their Expert Selection...with deference to Lost Dog''s typology...see point #3 please right below...
3) I wonder if the promise isn''t in what RockDoc spoke of recently in Leonid''s survey:
"Despite writing and studying and researching on the part of the consumer, the really lacking element was the ability to discern the difference by sight. However, once I educated her eyes to what to look for, what characteristics were desirable but yet subtle and difficult for the untrained eye to see, the result was irrefutable, and she had to get an Eightstar, which she did."
GIA does present/talk a good game. So does Paul. And so do so many here, including Jim Schultz and Dave Atlas and others on the subtleties or lack thereof between the best and the very good. If we regard ourselves somewhat as phenomonologists here, wouldn''t it be good if some kind of education were possible and could be brought forward, to help us find the value in going the distance with our dollar, for a diamond that has just those certain special qualities, such that -- without which -- those qualities might just go unnoticed.
Finally, regarding Charlie the Tuna...do any of you remember those old commercials. Frankly there needn''t, as a practical matter, have to be a difference between those diamonds that are selected because we have good taste, versus those selected because we can appreciate that they look good. But, if we were to seek to to draw a bright line, on the topic of Superideals in particular, getting assistance in a place like Pricescope on these details (that point specifically to our experience of them) can only help.
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