Should lighter airline passengers pay less? (no politics)

[ruby59]

Re: Should lighter airline passengers pay less? (no politics

This is not a smart nor comfortable scenario to aggravate a man who already feels so entitled when I am traveling alone. I do have to exit the plane by myself. I do not want that person following me and doing me harm.

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Tell me one place on this planet where you would allow a strange man to constantly touch you?

You are not alone on that plane. And what better place than an airport to scream for security if that man starts to follow or harass you.

 

[ruby59]

Re: Should lighter airline passengers pay less? (no politics

To add to my previous post, actually that way of thinking is more dangerous, imo.

You are giving mixed signals to that guy that either you are weak or that you are welcoming his advances.

I have learned since I was bothered that you cut men off like that at the knees or by another part of the body.

And it is why my husband insisted our two girls when they went off to college take self defense classes.

 

[LadyMCh]

Re: Should lighter airline passengers pay less? (no politics

I don't think many of you get it, they charge people that actually are morbidly obese not just big, not just heavy, we are talking people who actually take up sometimes not just two but three seats across wise and then some.
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I agree, Arkie.

And to the poster above

If you fit into one seat where the arm rests can come down. You are fine.

If you cannot, you pay for the extra space you need.

If you fit, but are just obnoxious and keep "digging into" the person next to you then you call over a stewardess and let her deal with it.
If he refuses to comply, then they remove him from that seat and possibly arrest him when the plane lands.

This is not a smart nor comfortable scenario to aggravate a man who already feels so entitled when I am traveling alone. I do have to exit the plane by myself. I do not want that person following me and doing me harm.

I would have said something. On an airplane or in an airport are probably 2 of the safest places to tactfully confront someone since there are people EVERYWHERE. Plus, if he got through security, the chance of him having a weapon, like a gun or knife, is slim to none. If he was going to do you any physical harm, he'd have to do it with his body. You have a lot of room to lose him in the airport, that is if he hasn't been arrested or detained! You can always ask for security to escort you somewhere if you don't feel safe. Etc, etc, etc. Way safer than dealing w/ an @$$hole "in the wild"! I travel alone all the time, domestically and internationally.

I got upgraded on an international flight earlier this year after calling a steward over at the beginning of a flight because I had the middle seat between a mother and daughter (who had booked window and aisle) and kept leaning over me to talk to each other in Chinese. I literally said that they were related and kept simultaneously leaning over my seat to talk to each other and that I couldn't fly all the way from JFK to Shanghai for 15 HOURS with them leaning into my seat the whole time. They understood English, so they knew what I was saying. I knew the flight wasn't full, so I requested they either be set TOGETHER so they wouldn't be talking over me or that I would pay for an upgrade to an aisle seat. After take off, the steward took me to an open seat behind the middle galley that had so much leg room that I couldn't even touch the wall in front of me (and I'm 5'10"!), and there were 4 open seats between me an the next occupied seat. Heaven. As he led me away, I grabbed my bag out of overheard and said "Have a nice flight, ladies!" So, it never hurts to ask!

Of course, in this particular scenario, I would have more than likely not-so-passive-aggressively kept crossing my legs so that I kicked him in the process, if it seems he was doing this on purpose. Then, if he said something, fake apologize for being just "so klutzy".

As for flying with people physically spilling over into my seat because they're overweight, been there and done that, too. I got stuck on a small plane on a 2.5 hour flight with a man who was 1/3 the way into my seat. I spent the whole flight leaning to the left diagonally into the aisle, which tweaked my back so badly that I was in pain for the following week. The man *should* have had to have bought a second seat, but was not. Flying is expensive and a privilege. Once you pay for your seat, that's temporarily your property and you have a right to it. I don't think weight-based charges are appropriate because of muscle vs. fat and height considerations. BUT, if you can't fit in a seat comfortably with the armrest down, you should be required to buy another seat. Most airline policies that I have seen say that if you can't fit in your seat and need two seats but the flight is sold out, you may not be permitted to board the plane. I would not be surprised if someday people are required to sit in a "test seat" prior to boarding.

 

[House Cat]

Re: Should lighter airline passengers pay less? (no politics

To add to my previous post, actually that way of thinking is more dangerous, imo.

You are giving mixed signals to that guy that either you are weak or that you are welcoming his advances.

I have learned since I was bothered that you cut men off like that at the knees or by another part of the body.

And it is why my husband insisted our two girls when they went off to college take self defense classes.

Is it your intention to be so horribly offensive and hurtful? Or does your complete lack of empathy just come natural for you?

 

[ruby59]

Re: Should lighter airline passengers pay less? (no politics

Is it your intention to be so horribly offensive and hurtful? Or does your complete lack of empathy just come natural for you?

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What are you talking about now? Which sentence of mine offended you?

 

[ruby59]

Re: Should lighter airline passengers pay less? (no politics

To add to my previous post, actually that way of thinking is more dangerous, imo.

You are giving mixed signals to that guy that either you are weak or that you are welcoming his advances.

(answer) This is what was told to my girls during their self defense class.
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I have learned since I was bothered that you cut men off like that at the knees or by another part of the body.

(answer) I was molested as a child. I have already put that out there. I now do not make myself out to be a victim. If I had known then what I know now, the outcome would have been different.

And yes part of that class is learning how to deal with an offender.
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And it is why my husband insisted our two girls when they went off to college take self defense classes.