Should I get this rock? Advice please!

[kokoro]

Hi all. I did find one stone I really liked and wanted everyone''s advice on the value and the stone itself. With respect to the dealer, I was wondering what would you all think about this stone? Price wise? Cut wise?

Shape - Round Brilliant
Measurements - 7.83 - 7.92 x 4.69mm
Weight - 1.73 carats
Proportions
Depth - 59.6%
Table - 58%
Girdle - Very Thin to Medium, Faceted
Cutlet - none
Finish -
Polish - Excellent
Symmetry - Excellent
Clarity - VS2
Color Grade - F
Fluorescence - None
Comments - None
Sarin report:

AGS 1.73 ct. 1
diam. 7.89mm (7.83-7.93)
depth 4.68mm 59.3%
crown 32.9'' 13.4% 1
pavil 41.2'' 43.4% 0
table 4.60mm 58% 1
culet 0.7% very small 0
girdle 0.7thin-1.4medium 1% 0

What do you all think?

There was one cloud in the off center of the diamond, looked like a little line w/ the 10X loupe. But that was it. Thank you and looking forward to your replies.

With my budget of sub 20K, I wanted to get the nicest sparkle as opposed to size and other criteria. Hence, I assume it would be best to stick with a stone like this? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

 

[strmrdr]

hca says:
Selected: 59.3% depth, 58% table, 32.9° crown angle, 41.2° pavilion angle
The result is for a symmetrical diamond with a medium girdle and very good polish
HCA scores were adjusted Dec. 15, 2001 and Feb. 6, 2003.


Factor Grade
Light Return Very Good
Fire Excellent
Scintillation Very Good
Spread
or diameter for weight Excellent
Total Visual Performance 1.8 - Excellent
within TIC rang

 

[strmrdr]

Personaly I dont care for the low crown.
They tend to have issues with poor off angle light return.

 

[strmrdr]

The very thin girdle might also be a concern depending on how much of it is very thin.

 

[kokoro]

I was debating between this and another:

Specs for the first:

Shape - Round Brilliant
Measurements - 7.83 - 7.92 x 4.69mm
Weight - 1.73 carats

Proportions
Depth - 59.6%
Table - 58%
Girdle - Very Thin to Medium, Faceted
Cutlet - none

Finish -
Polish - Excellent
Symmetry - Excellent
Clarity - VS2
Color Grade - F
Fluorescence - None
Comments - None

Sarin report:

AGS 1.73 ct. 1
diam. 7.89mm (7.83-7.93)
depth 4.68mm 59.3%
crown 32.9'' 13.4% 1
pavil 41.2'' 43.4% 0
table 4.60mm 58% 1
culet 0.7% very small 0
girdle 0.7thin-1.4medium 1% 0


Specs for the second:
7.78-7.82 x 4.77
1.75 carat
61.2%
57%
thin to medicum, faceted
cutlet- none
polish - excellent
symmetry - excellent
VS2
F
none - fluorescence
comment - none
sarin report:
7.8 (7.78-7.83)
34.4
14.6% crown height
41.2 pavil angle
43.6 depth
0.8 cutlet
table size 57.1
total depth 61.3
girdle thick 0.7-1.4
proportion cut grade - 0
haven''t seen this stone, but the GIA says there is an inclusion off center

I know I''m being picky, but any advice would be greatly appreicated. Also, any advice on the pricing of these? Thanks again!

 

[strmrdr]

No your not being picky.
You are spending a lot of maoney and should make an informed decision there is nothing wrong with that.

 

[strmrdr]

hca dont like the second one.
The 41.2 degree pavilion is the problem there.
Under an ideal-scope it would likely show some light leakage in the table area.

Selected: 61.2% depth, 57% table, 34.4° crown angle, 41.2° pavilion angle
The result is for a symmetrical diamond with a medium girdle and very good polish
HCA scores were adjusted Dec. 15, 2001 and Feb. 6, 2003.


Factor Grade
Light Return Very Good
Fire Good
Scintillation Good
Spread
or diameter for weight Very Good

Total Visual Performance 3.2 - Very Good - Worth buying if the price is right

 

[kokoro]

hi,

thanks for your reply!

So i assume the first one is better? Since it''s HCA in regards to visual performance is 1.8?

thanks

 

[kokoro]

also, what do you think about the pricing of these? Similar prices? What would be a good price?

thanks! As you can see, I''m stressing over this . . . sorry for my neurosis! THanks in advanced for the advice!

 

[strmrdr]

You can use the pricescope search on the homepage or above here to find simular diamonds and pricing.
I dont like to get into pricing issues much.
If your buying from a b&m it might be slightly higher than the internet pricing.
A local b&m has some advantages and you usualy pay for them.
I wouldnt pay a large amount more but im ok with some premium.

 

[Regular Guy]

Mike,

the first one might be primo....Storm''s given you some good advice.

I see you''re in NYC. How bout this. Get that one, bring it to GOG, compare it to this one, see if you feel the visual/cost difference is worth the stretch, pick the one you want.

Regards,

 

[valeria101]

Take a look at some diamonds first, IMO. Especially F-VS and G-SI1... because there is a 10 k difference there that you just might not be able to notice (see this and this). Of course, this might sound bad or not interesting at all, but you are in NYC and there must be plenty of opportunities to see what are those grades all about.

I would not disagree with the number crunching above. Between the two stones is a matter of taste, IMO. Perhaps #2 'sounds' better by the numbers (both angles and lack of -very thin- girdle-although this may not be important after all) - but this only because there is need to choose just one