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MINE!!

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It has been a crazy crazy week.

As you know, my hubby and I got married last year @ the JOP and had our wedding this spring. I have my two children, who are now going to be 8 and 11. (UGH!! they grow fast) My DH has none of his own..

He loves my children and I know that he does. But I know he wants one that is part of him as well. He is 39 and I am 31, so he wanted to have child before you got too far up there.
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We had decided that we were going to start trying this next fall.

Sometimes accidents happen, and one happened recently. BC is not always 100% foolproof, as we all know. We took 2 preg and they were both positive. We were very happy. But I was a little nervous, considering that once it we found out.. well I started thinking about diapers and late nights and how long it had been and how old my children were. But as everyone here may know... I love children and after a while, the thought of having another angel was just awesome!!! Soon after, I seemed to have started my period and I took another test and it was negative. (the 2 positives were not even the same tests) I was very confused. But it was early, so my OB said not worry, that somethingw as probably wrong with it and my body was just looking out for me and got rid of it. That about 65% of all pregnancys end this way without women even knowing they were pregnant.

But the story gets more interesting. Well:

DH and I started talking about it and decided that we would just go ahead and start trying earlier than we had thought about.

Here is the kicker... and here is where I get angry. My husband has RA. He takes a drug called Methotexrate. We asked his Dr. if it was okay for me to get pregnant while he was taking it. HE (the specailist) said yes, that my husband was taking low enough doses that it would be alright and should not pose a thread to the developement of the baby and that the only thing we may have to worry about is low sperm count. Well, I called my OBGYN and metioned it to him. I thought he was going to crawl through the phone and grab me. NO NO NO he says. They give Methotexrate to people who have etopic pregnancies to end the pregnancy. He said is causes sperm mutation which leads to birth defects. OMG.. I think.... My OB says... that the risk is high and for women they never should have children on Meth. and for men, they should not father them either.

However, we did some research on it. Most thigns say that he hould discontiune use for 3 months and that everything should return to normal and there is not chance of Birth defects after this "cleansing " period. That means my DH will have to use another med. for this period of time, till I get pregnant. It has been a sad and stressful week. Of course it is impossible to get a second opinion, considering you have to be a patient.

We called back his RA specailist and he said that it was fine since it was such a low does, regardless of what my OB said. However, we are running with what the OB. said instead. But I suppose the worst thing is, that mnow that have thought I was perg, not pregnant now and waiting to change around med. and watching and realizing my kids are older, but somehow ... deep inside.. still thining about another baby, but not really... I am just a mess...

Just wanted to vent and say that I am sad, upset, relieved and confused all at the same time.
 

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Mine, if you still have my private e-mail, please drop me a line.........i''d like to ''talk'' more personally.

this is not an easy place to be in and no wonder you feel like you''re a mess. its always good to vent and express as i believe it is part of the process that gets us ''on the path''.

i''m also glad you''re going with your OBGYN''s recommendation....as hard as it is. i believe OBGYN''s are more up to date re the side effects of meds and more concerned about them as well.....they have to deal with them in a way that the other doctor just doesn''t have to. he has you, your family, and your future child''s best interests in mind. he wants you and your family to have the best conditions going into adding a new member of the family. he is giving you the benefit of his experience and trying to make sure that any future pregnancy is successful and results in a healthy child.

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ps again, if you still have my private e-mail address, please do send me a private e-mail. sending orange vibes your way.........
 

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I would talk to a pharmacist or even the drug manufacturer. Many drug companies have the drug inserts online. They are very indept and have statistics on clinical testing. It will give you a better idea of what you are dealing with. Good luck.
 

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and i don''t trust the drug companies evaluation: too many times in retrospect it is shown that they knew of side effects from test results but didn''t report them and/or under played them by using deceptive language. the FDA is now merely a paid arm of the pharmaceutical companies and even their stamp of approval on drugs has to be suspect.

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ps when talking about having effects on a fetus, i''m all for being paranoid and taking the most cautious road available....especially when my own doctor speaks up. why take a chance?!
 

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MINE- I can relate. My DH has psoriatic arthritis. He has been living with it for the past 4 years or so. He used to take Methotexrate. His dr told him he needed to be off it for a couple months if and when he decided to have children. Methotexrate did not help him anyways so he has been on remicade for the past year and has had great results (much better than any other medication). He is going to double check with his dr but he is pretty sure there will be no side affects when we try for a baby. Would he be willing to switch medications?
 

Tacori E-ring

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Thanks MINE! I LOVE wearing it!

I don''t know if I would feel right asking DH to stop remicade even for a few months since it helps him SOOO much so I know what you mean but I am SURE there is a way around it. Maybe a different drug that works the same but has less side effects. Going to his dr is the first step. I''ll keep my fingers crossed for ya!
 

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Date: 8/31/2006 3:42:16 PM
Author: MINE!!

I am sure that we are definitely going to go with my OB here.
I think this is a VERY wise choice.

Following the OB, nothing could go awry if things don''t go as she anticipates. Following the RA specialist, things could go very awry if things don''t go as HE anticipates.
 

MelissaSue

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awww. Mine.. I am so sad for you! The good news is, you still have a very good chance of having a healthy pregnancy/baby.. Its good that you found out from your OB that the drug your husband is on can cause these problems.. Hopefully your husband will find a better, safer medication.. and maybe.. like Tacori''s hubby, it will work even better for him! Keep your spirits up hon! And good luck!!!
 

MINE!!

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Alj~true true

MelissaSue~ Thanks... we shall see what happens. I am very lucky that I have two amazing angels aready though, so if I cannot have another... well.... that still makes me a very fortunate mum. But sometimes I think this world could use a little more help.. Maybe one mor angel would be a good thing...

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Let me pipe up here to point out the obvious... there are alternatives here. Of the Capt''s three kids, #1 was a full adoption, #2 was an adoption/surrogacy, and #3 was a "happy accident."
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So no matter the outcome of this drug issue, keep in mind you can still have a third one way or another.
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Date: 8/31/2006 7:42:03 PM
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Let me pipe up here to point out the obvious... there are alternatives here. Of the Capt''s three kids, #1 was a full adoption, #2 was an adoption/surrogacy, and #3 was a ''happy accident.''
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So no matter the outcome of this drug issue, keep in mind you can still have a third one way or another.
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Sorry to hear about all the ups and downs, MINE... it sounds like you''ve definitely been on an emotional rollercoaster with all this. But I have to agree with Capt... as the proud "aunt" of two beautiful and amazing adopted little girls, I can''t express enough what a blessing adoption can be! Their arrival brought so much joy to everyone involved, and was the perfect fairytale end to a difficult chapter in their parents'' lives... 9 years of trying unsuccessfully to conceive. So if you and your husband really want a baby to share together, I really believe there is one out there for you... just maybe not in the way you expected! Good luck...
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Date: 8/31/2006 8:20:21 PM
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Sorry to hear about all the ups and downs, MINE... it sounds like you''ve definitely been on an emotional rollercoaster with all this. But I have to agree with Capt... as the proud ''aunt'' of two beautiful and amazing adopted little girls, I can''t express enough what a blessing adoption can be!

Although I have an adopted daughter, I never thought of adoption when I read about the quandary Mine and her husband face. I guess because Mine is so young and seems so relentlessly fertile! No matter how a baby arrives, s/he will be Mine''s husband''s own if s/he is theirs from birth (or thereabouts). I saw a seven week old little girl melt my husband''s heart!

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Mine, I just wanted to say that you are very, very young and have plenty of time to have more children if you and your husband want to. Babies in the late 30''s is very common these days. Our third child was adopted when we were 40!
 

MINE!!

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Hey eveyone, thanks for the thoughtful and wonderful advice.

I have some very good news. After meeting with my OB/GYN and my husbands R.A. specialist together... they looked over the med, the dosage and the issues and they both looked at us and said.."Go for it!" The dosage is so low on the Med. that the risks would not be any more than a normal pregnancy. I would have to take a bit of folic acid and so DH would have to continue to take hi as well. But they said that there is absoultely no reason why I could not have a healthy strong baby.

But they want me to be on a dedicated regime of folic acid for a month (into the 2nd week of it now... thought I should take it just cause I am getting older anyway) So we are going to start "trying" in about 3 weeks or so!

I suppose I am excited and I suppose that I am not. My doctor said that I was not nuts. That it would be easier now that I have experience and that I had already gotten the quintisential "t-shirt" LOL...

Well, just wanted to share.

DH and I have also decided to look into adoption after we have tried for a while if things just do not work out naturally. Ah yes... another little one.. LOL.. I must be nuts.. but delightful nuts after all.
 

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glad you worked everything out with your dr. and I hope in continues to go smoothly.
 

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That''s great news MINE!!! I didn''t respond last time because I didn''t have any different advice than what was already offered...but I''m happy things have been sorted out and good luck!
 
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