just ask your vendor "what''s RAP" on XX stone.Date: 11/1/2008 5:09:59 PM
Author:Doc_1
how to get the pricing list if it is out....i googled the net and could not find how to purchase it...or it is for diamond dealers only and not to the public?
Internet advertisers present their wares right here...on this board...several actually even advertising for the same diamond held "somewhere" for different prices...which means they need to be close to the bone to get your attention and business. I would use the "Pricescope your diamond" here above to see real world ranges and targets. The "search by cut" option within provides a target center where options have a smaller range, somewhat higher price...and for these generally non-virtual and in-house options...you can expect a more reliable and higher quality.Date: 11/1/2008 6:42:12 PM
Author: Doc_1
Is it fair to say that Rap price is the base and i should get as close to it as i can?
because the trade is terrified of lowering prices so they want him to make it look like all is ok while below the surface it isn''t.Date: 11/1/2008 6:53:56 PM
Author: Doc_1
So why is the pressure on Rap to up his prices..and he lowered it instead?
Not exactly Karl..., its not a question of being ok or not..., this industry (as all others) is witnessing (from the sidelines [in my opinion]) one of the most serious economic crisis since the depression...Date: 11/1/2008 7:05:18 PM
Author: strmrdr
because the trade is terrified of lowering prices so they want him to make it look like all is ok while below the surface it isn''t.Date: 11/1/2008 6:53:56 PM
Author: Doc_1
So why is the pressure on Rap to up his prices..and he lowered it instead?
At the consumer end do you think it will be better if i wait a little if that means i can get a better deal?Date: 11/1/2008 7:25:47 PM
Author: DiaGem
Not exactly Karl..., its not a question of being ok or not..., this industry (as all others) is witnessing (from the sidelines [in my opinion]) one of the most serious economic crisis since the depression...Date: 11/1/2008 7:05:18 PM
Author: strmrdr
Date: 11/1/2008 6:53:56 PM
Author: Doc_1
So why is the pressure on Rap to up his prices..and he lowered it instead?
because the trade is terrified of lowering prices so they want him to make it look like all is ok while below the surface it isn''t.
As of now..., there was some speculations when it came to the larger finer quality Diamonds..., so naturally a lot of dealers or industry members are nervous at this time...
The turmoil dust/fog is still fresh and heavy..., its hard to look ahead and see the results (for the Diamond industry at least)...
Saying its not ok below the surface is not the right wordings..., we dont know yet as most segments are frozen at this time and there are almost no deals made..., but I can assure you that I personally know of some deals that are still made at the regular prices of a month or two ago..., especially in the smaller goods segment (2 carats and below).
Time will tell what will happen in the Diamond industry..., but you might find yourself surprised...
Date: 11/1/2008 7:25:47 PM
Author: DiaGem
Not exactly Karl..., its not a question of being ok or not..., this industry (as all others) is witnessing (from the sidelines [in my opinion]) one of the most serious economic crisis since the depression...Date: 11/1/2008 7:05:18 PM
Author: strmrdr
Date: 11/1/2008 6:53:56 PM
Author: Doc_1
So why is the pressure on Rap to up his prices..and he lowered it instead?
because the trade is terrified of lowering prices so they want him to make it look like all is ok while below the surface it isn''t.
As of now..., there was some speculations when it came to the larger finer quality Diamonds..., so naturally a lot of dealers or industry members are nervous at this time...
The turmoil dust/fog is still fresh and heavy..., its hard to look ahead and see the results (for the Diamond industry at least)...
Saying its not ok below the surface is not the right wordings..., we dont know yet as most segments are frozen at this time and there are almost no deals made..., but I can assure you that I personally know of some deals that are still made at the regular prices of a month or two ago..., especially in the smaller goods segment (2 carats and below).
Time will tell what will happen in the Diamond industry..., but you might find yourself surprised...
I believe if you need or want to buy a Diamond today you might have a bit of an advantage as you know the latest slogan...., "CASH IS KING"...Date: 11/1/2008 7:40:29 PM
Author: Doc_1
At the consumer end do you think it will be better if i wait a little if that means i can get a better deal?
Date: 11/1/2008 7:51:27 PM
Author: strmrdr
Date: 11/1/2008 7:25:47 PM
Author: DiaGem
Not exactly Karl..., its not a question of being ok or not..., this industry (as all others) is witnessing (from the sidelines [in my opinion]) one of the most serious economic crisis since the depression...Date: 11/1/2008 7:05:18 PM
Author: strmrdr
Date: 11/1/2008 6:53:56 PM
Author: Doc_1
So why is the pressure on Rap to up his prices..and he lowered it instead?
because the trade is terrified of lowering prices so they want him to make it look like all is ok while below the surface it isn''t.
As of now..., there was some speculations when it came to the larger finer quality Diamonds..., so naturally a lot of dealers or industry members are nervous at this time...
The turmoil dust/fog is still fresh and heavy..., its hard to look ahead and see the results (for the Diamond industry at least)...
Saying its not ok below the surface is not the right wordings..., we dont know yet as most segments are frozen at this time and there are almost no deals made..., but I can assure you that I personally know of some deals that are still made at the regular prices of a month or two ago..., especially in the smaller goods segment (2 carats and below).
Time will tell what will happen in the Diamond industry..., but you might find yourself surprised...
They cant stay frozen or the industry is dead.
Dont worry..., its impossible to stay frozen..., but it is for the near future...
If they don''t make enough money over the holiday season they are toast.
Like I said previously..., the good will survive..., good old fashioned capitalism
They don''t have much time before they are forced to move.
No one wants to make the first move that makes sense as the first to move could lose big time.
Some are making moves already..., thats where some journalists have a field-day, but its considered a drop in the bucket..., but I said before and I will say again..., this industry is dominated by very strong economic entities/hands (much more than examples in the past)...
Date: 11/1/2008 7:57:40 PM
Author: DiaGem
Date: 11/1/2008 7:40:29 PM
Author: Doc_1
At the consumer end do you think it will be better if i wait a little if that means i can get a better deal?
I believe if you need or want to buy a Diamond today you might have a bit of an advantage as you know the latest slogan...., ''CASH IS KING''...
And if you can find a cash hungry jeweler you might be in a better negotiating position...., one thing is for sure..., having the Rapaport pricesheet handy will be an obstacle for your position rather than help...
Good luck!
The bottom line is that the pricescope search prices are more indicative of low end real world prices than RAP is.Date: 11/1/2008 8:14:01 PM
Author: Doc_1
Am sorry ..but i do not know how knowing more can be an obstacle. i can choose to pay more but at least i want to know.
Your welcome.Date: 11/1/2008 8:45:53 PM
Author: Doc_1
thx Karl for the advice ...will do..!!