Hi YMA:Date: 10/30/2005 9:16:39 PM
Author:YMA
What can you tell by these numbers?????????????
2.55 GIA Cert. Rec. Radiant
Color: I
Clarity: SI1
Depth: 68%
8.37 x 7.28 x 5.08 ???????????/
Will this stone face up like 2.5 carat??
risky business?Date: 10/31/2005 3:51:47 PM
Author: RADIANTMAN
Hi YMA;
While I personally believe that buying any diamond sight unseen is a risky business, radiants present greater risks than more symmetrical shapes with less complex faceting like rounds and princesses.
i don't question your expertise one bit, however, your position allows you avenues not available to the average consumer. the internet has opened up a new world for buyers and can be very rewarding for those willing to take the time to learn about their purchase. if the consumer is buying from a reputable vendor, what is there to be afraid of?Date: 10/31/2005 3:51:47 PM
Author: RADIANTMAN
Few people would question my expertise in radiant cuts, and I have never, and never will, buy one sight unseen. It amazes me that consumers can read a few articles and convince themselves that they are now knowledgable enough to do something that I would be afraid to do.
idealscope and brillancescope are two totally different tools. totally. i think it would be more helpful if you could explain, in your opinion, the extent of the uselessness for each.Date: 10/31/2005 3:51:47 PM
Author: RADIANTMAN
There is no substitute to seeing a radiant cut in person. If you do buy on the net, make sure you have shopped stores as well, and be prepared to return it if it's not as nice as the ones you've seen in person. Also, take photographs (if unretouched) more seriously as an indicator of what the diamond will look like than 'idealscopes,' 'brilliantscopes' and the like. Those instruments were developed for round diamonds and are pretty useless in evaluating radiants.
wooohooo! i think we''re getting somewhere. yes, if your goal is to get a bigger stone, then you need to look at the measurements. there is no reason to pay for more carat weight, i.e. 2.5 vs. your current 2.0 if the measurements are the same. if the numbers are very close, you''re not gaining anything.Date: 10/31/2005 5:18:18 PM
Author: YMA
Belle,
Thank for your advise, and reply.
AHHHHHHHHHHH, You gave me the answer I was looking for, now I can go home and look and my currect GIA report and compare the measurements to the new stone I am looking to purchase.
That''s what I''ve been trying to get all along, I know you have to look at the stone, grading, clarity, cut , color and idea scope blah, blah, blah, but what I really wanted to know is how and what those measurements mean.
So....... if the measurements are larger then my current stone and the depth is lower will the new stone be worth it to upgrade to 2.55 point to make a difference or should I wait it out for that dream 3 carats.
THATS WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.......THANKS, BELLE
David - well said.Date: 10/31/2005 5:18:45 PM
Author: diamondsbylauren
Belle,
YOu have some good points.
I think Stan does too.
I''m quite sure tht Stan will agree that if someone has a well supplied reputable jeweler they trust telling them it''s a great stone, that''s the number one path to getting a good radiant cut- or any diamond.
I guess maybe Stan''s point ( and one I''ve been hameering home for so long) is that if one thinks the numbers give them useful knowledge, they might actually be more prone to getting ripped off- or buying a less than desirable stone. this holds true if one walks into a store, or logs onto a site.
You know, a little knowledge can be very dangerous........
I totally agree with stan on the uselessness of IS and BS images.
i agree with this as well david, but i feel it''s necessary to point out that one can build the same trust in an online source. buying over the internet does not have to be the scary proposition stan makes it out to be.Date: 10/31/2005 5:18:45 PM
Author: diamondsbylauren
I''m quite sure tht Stan will agree that if someone has a well supplied reputable jeweler they trust telling them it''s a great stone, that''s the number one path to getting a good radiant cut- or any diamond.
i will meet you in the middle on this one. for rounds, which are very straightforward in cut, i think the numbers can be extremely useful. for fancy cuts, i would be more cautious. there are too many variables to rely on the numbers alone with fancies. and yes, a little knowledge can be very dangerous but it can be quite helpful too.Date: 10/31/2005 5:18:45 PM
Author: diamondsbylauren
I guess maybe Stan''s point ( and one I''ve been hameering home for so long) is that if one thinks the numbers give them useful knowledge, they might actually be more prone to getting ripped off- or buying a less than desirable stone. this holds true if one walks into a store, or logs onto a site.
You know, a little knowledge can be very dangerous........
agreed.Date: 10/31/2005 5:48:37 PM
Author: RADIANTMAN
If a vendor that you trust tells you that a diamond is beautiful, that provides much more useful information than any tool that I know of. If you don''t trust the vendor, then don''t buy from them. An idealscope image or brilliantscope report will not fix the problem.
Date: 10/31/2005 8:01:11 PM
Author: YMA
2.02ct
7.86 x 6.30 x 4.64 mm
2.55ct
8.37 x 7.28 x 5.08 mm