question about the 60:60 tutorial picture

[skphotoimages]

This picture is in the 60:60 tutorial. Are the red images on the bottom supposed to reflect what an ideal scope image might look like on these stones, or is it something all together different?

 

[Lorelei]

I think so Sky, looks like the arrow patterns match.

 

[skphotoimages]

OK, thanks for clearing that up for me.

 

[Garry H (Cut Nut)]

yes they are

Also the ideal-scope images and light perfrmance would change if the girdle thickness is thicker or thinner.
Slightly thicker would be better - and extremely thick would make all the stones too shallo in crown and pavilion.

 

[diamondsbylauren]

Hi everyone,
seeing as how all those computer generated images are of off made 60/60's I would ask -what is the point?
Why not show what a well cut 60/60 looks like?

Anytime a crown angle is greater than 35 dgrees on a round diamond, GIA makes a note on the report- all of the computer generated imaginary 60/60's would have such comments and be considered badly made- ( badly cut).
All the CG stones would have the comment on the GIA report, so buyers could see it in plain english.



To me the smaller tabled "Ideal" cut stones seem to "throttle" the light.

It's a small difference, and I too love Ideal Cut diamonds- however, I still maintain that my favorite proporions are well cut 60/60

 

[Garry H (Cut Nut)]

Date: 12/18/2005 5:16:48 PM
Author: diamondsbylauren
Hi everyone,
seeing as how all those computer generated images are of off made 60/60''s I would ask -what is the point?
Why not show what a well cut 60/60 looks like?

Anytime a crown angle is greater than 35 dgrees on a round diamond, GIA makes a note on the report- all of the computer generated imaginary 60/60''s would have such comments and be considered badly made- ( badly cut).
All the CG stones would have the comment on the GIA report, so buyers could see it in plain english.



To me the smaller tabled ''Ideal'' cut stones seem to ''throttle'' the light.

It''s a small difference, and I too love Ideal Cut diamonds- however, I still maintain that my favorite proporions are well cut 60/60

David GIA will be accepting many diamonds with crown angles over 35 degrees as GIA excellent under the new cut proportions in 2 weeks from today. And not making negative comments.

 

[diamondsbylauren]

If you are indeed correct, this is a good point.
maybe 36 degree crowns might get top cut grade, but Garry, do you expect they will call a round brilliant with 39+ degrees "excellent"?

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 12/18/2005 6:56:16 PM
Author: diamondsbylauren
If you are indeed correct, this is a good point.

maybe 36 degree crowns might get top cut grade, but Garry, do you expect they will call a round brilliant with 39+ degrees ''excellent''?

I would :}

 

[strmrdr]

This one looks good to me :}

 

[strmrdr]

IS

 

[strmrdr]

The numbers

 

[strmrdr]

Avoiding the fish-eye was the hardest part.

 

[strmrdr]

I call it the 40-40

 

[diamondsbylauren]

We''ll certainly see storm.


Personally, I feel digially created images of imaginary diamonds tell us nothing. Kind of like digitally created images of people, or animals.
A well cut 60/60 ( actual diamond) looks nothing like those pics Storm, due respect.

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 12/18/2005 7:24:45 PM
Author: diamondsbylauren
We''ll certainly see storm.



Personally, I feel digially created images of imaginary diamonds tell us nothing. Kind of like digitally created images of people, or animals.

A well cut 60/60 ( actual diamond) looks nothing like those pics Storm, due respect.

They are shockingly close, close enough for design work if not buying close yet.
Its not ment to be a 60/60 and I like it better than some 60/60 combos gia facetware has blessed with the exellent title.

The main point is that saying no exellent to very good diamond can have a over 39 degree crown is wrong.

That is just as wrong as saying a 60/60 cant be kicken.
On of the kewlest looking round diamonds iv ever seen in real life had a 65% table atleast.
It didnt have the performance of a super-ideal but it was kewl.
It looked like a wagon wheel with a small hub, spokes and outer rim.
I havent been able to dupicate it in DC yet but it was awesome and sticks in my mind.
I like kewl patterns :}

 

[Garry H (Cut Nut)]

David I still have not given up on the idea that you could actually get an education and leave dinasaur world behind.
try www.facetware.gia.edu

If we can educate you to 1/2 the level of many consumers then there is still hope for many inert others.

 

[diamondsbylauren]

Maybe it''s because my photos actually show what a diamond looks like, but I don''t see the use in "virtual" diamonds. Call it "old thinking" - I don''t feel the "Virtual" diamonds look anything like a real one.
Garry- the thousands of people who we are lucky to call customers don''t happen to mind "old fashioned" thinking.


Storm- I am a trained diamond grader- I was trained by Harry Winston inc betyween 1976-1980, and I contest the virtual looks nothing like a real diamond- you feel they do.
Good.

 

[Garry H (Cut Nut)]

Date: 12/19/2005 1:20:28 PM
Author: diamondsbylauren
Maybe it''s because my photos actually show what a diamond looks like, but I don''t see the use in ''virtual'' diamonds. Call it ''old thinking'' - I don''t feel the ''Virtual'' diamonds look anything like a real one.
I contest the virtual looks nothing like a real diamond- you feel they do.
Good.

David you can trick up the lighting in the virtual photo''s and rework them in photoshop later too.

 

[valeria101]

Admitting that the DC graphics don't quite jump off the screen...


Garry, any chance someone could make up a photoreal demo that would do that trick? (thinking of Maya or something).

 

[diamondsbylauren]

Date: 12/19/2005 2:17:04 PM
Author: Garry H (Cut Nut)

Date: 12/19/2005 1:20:28 PM
Author: diamondsbylauren
Maybe it''s because my photos actually show what a diamond looks like, but I don''t see the use in ''virtual'' diamonds. Call it ''old thinking'' - I don''t feel the ''Virtual'' diamonds look anything like a real one.
I contest the virtual looks nothing like a real diamond- you feel they do.
Good.

David you can trick up the lighting in the virtual photo''s and rework them in photoshop later too.

Hi Garry- let''s be perfectly clear here: YOU can use whatever tricks you want to do whatever you do to virtual or imaginary images.
OUR photos have not been messed with in photoshop. PERIOD