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kenny|1441812157|3925590 said:Thanks missy and Sonnyjane for posting that info.
I was not aware of that.
It makes sense that only properly trained people should do this, but there is also the problem of judgement of how much time remains before the animal dies.
An untrained person is not officially qualified to judge this, but may feel common sense is enough if they perceive an emergency.
But, to do nothing beyond making a phone call (if you have cell coverage) or on a radio and wait and watch would be heart-wrenching, especially if officials didn't show up soon enough and you witness the animal's death.
If this video is authentic, and I suspect it is, the understanding and the joy the whale seems to express moved me to tears, and I'm a pretty heartless b@stard.
tuffyluvr|1441827244|3925727 said:Edit: it is fishing net, not fishing line.
sonnyjane|1441863084|3925951 said:Also, trust me that entanglement cases are a SLOW process, and as sad and torturous as it is, the average time for an entangled animal between entanglement and death is approximately five MONTHS. No animal you see entangled will perish by waiting a few hours. If it does die within that short time, then there was absolutely nothing that could be done to save it in the first place as it was already past the point of no return.
jordyonbass|1441864341|3925956 said:sonnyjane|1441863084|3925951 said:Also, trust me that entanglement cases are a SLOW process, and as sad and torturous as it is, the average time for an entangled animal between entanglement and death is approximately five MONTHS. No animal you see entangled will perish by waiting a few hours. If it does die within that short time, then there was absolutely nothing that could be done to save it in the first place as it was already past the point of no return.
From someone who has spent a HUGE part of their life on the ocean I can verify that this is pretty close to fact; if not, then the animal will have more time than that on average IMO. Countless times I have seen fishing equipment with barnacles and weed growth on both the mammal/shark and the tangled gear, indicating that the gear had been on the animal for a long time and in almost every case it seemed like the animal was not affected by it. So what this indicates to me is that any fish/animal that ends up tangled in nets in a way that could be mortal is most likely to be tended to by the fishermen due to the problems it causes for said fishermen (with the exception of deployed shark nets).
Any animal that has washed up on a beach with fishing gear tangled on it almost certainly did not die due to the fishing gear. If that were the case they would be dead on the ocean floor, miles out to sea where the gear is typically used and not washed up at a surf beach.
CJ2008|1441931601|3926303 said:... I read that if you see a turtle crossing the road and you want to help her never reverse her direction...all you're doing is delaying her process - not sure if it disorients them too. So you always want to help them in the same direction they are headed towards).
kenny|1441931869|3926306 said:CJ2008|1441931601|3926303 said:... I read that if you see a turtle crossing the road and you want to help her never reverse her direction...all you're doing is delaying her process - not sure if it disorients them too. So you always want to help them in the same direction they are headed towards).
Even if the road runs along a high cliff?
CJ2008|1441931601|3926303 said:Oh my goodness thank you for all that wonderful information sonnyjane.
I love whenever I learn something about how to handle an animal-specific situation - one of my biggest fears is seeing an animal in distress and doing the wrong thing when I think I'm actually helping.
Not that I'll encounter a whale or dolphin any time soon - but having the knowledge is good. You never know when you might use it.
(for example - I read that if you see a turtle crossing the road and you want to help her never reverse her direction...all you're doing is delaying her process - not sure if it disorients them too. So you always want to help them in the same direction they are headed towards).
sonnyjane|1441933969|3926313 said:CJ2008|1441931601|3926303 said:Oh my goodness thank you for all that wonderful information sonnyjane.
I love whenever I learn something about how to handle an animal-specific situation - one of my biggest fears is seeing an animal in distress and doing the wrong thing when I think I'm actually helping.
Not that I'll encounter a whale or dolphin any time soon - but having the knowledge is good. You never know when you might use it.
(for example - I read that if you see a turtle crossing the road and you want to help her never reverse her direction...all you're doing is delaying her process - not sure if it disorients them too. So you always want to help them in the same direction they are headed towards).
Ha! I'm a marine biologist, not a herpetologist, so I'll take your word on the turtle crossing. Also if you find a baby bird on the ground, leave it be. It's likely just fledged. Don't try to care for it. That's another important one that many (including my own mom) have messed up.