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How to deal with Creepers.

CatLady

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After reading Starset''s post, I thought that I might share my own creeper story and seek some advice on how to deal with this guy who I met.

About a month or two ago I met a guy at a bar. I wasn''t really interested in him, he said he was 36, but looked much older and seemed kind of weird. He asked for my number and I gave it to him. I just got out of a long relationship that ended pretty badly and am just getting back into the dating game, so I''m not exactly going to throw a fish back before I take a good look at it.

So, he texts me and asks me out for the following Saturday night. I told him that I wasn''t sure because I might have plans, so he responds with "Well, if Saturday doesn''t work for you, how about one of the following days next week - Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday or Friday". I was like "whoa mister, calm down". Saturday approached and the number one guy I''m dating was out of town, and I had plans with friends for later in the evening, so I agreed to meet him for dinner at 7 PM. I knew that I shouldn''t have gone, especially when he offered to pick me up and I said no because I didn''t want him to know where I lived, nor did I want to ride in the car with him.

During our dinner, he told me that he had been married. Then he threw in that he had a domestic violence charge against him because he threw a bottle of wine at his wife when they were married. Then he laughed about it.
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. I couldn''t have gotten out of there fast enough. Then he kept asking me out but I kept coming up with lame excuses, hoping that he would get the hint. Besides the wine bottle thing, he also says old man things like "winner winner, chicken dinner", spelled waist instead of waste, uses the wrong your. I didn''t know that it was possible for all of my pet peeves to be embodied by one man, but he is just that. He is the anti-one.

So I work at a bar a few nights a week, and last week he showed up there randomly. I ignored him and hid and he left me some psycho text messages. I told him that I only have four nights off a week, and a lot of friends and that I just got out of a relationship and wasn''t really looking to date anyone. So the next morning he left some ten minute long meandering voicemail apologizing for the night before saying that he had eaten a bunch of adderall and gotten really drunk (how attractive), and that I didn''t give him enough of a chance when we went out to dinner and that he didn''t want to marry me but he just thought that I was really hot and wants to go out with me again. Then he told me that he has a daughter, oh yeah and that he had been involved in a hit and run in the parking lot the night before, but that it wasn''t his fault because the other car was black and it was dark and it didn''t do much damage so he just took off.

I didn''t respond. This was Wednesday. Last night he sent me three texts saying some crazy crap about how I''m so gangster, and he wants a chicken dinner. Then one saying "I''m really drunk". So obviously he isn''t going to take my silence as a sign that I''m not interested so I really don''t know the best way to handle it. He has shown himself to be completely batsh*t crazy so I''m frankly a bit frightened. I''ve thought about maybe telling him that I am pregnant or that I got back together with my ex or something the next time he bothers me. Is that best, or should I just keep ignoring him? It''s like I went on a date with Emilio Estevez''s character in St. Elmo''s Fire.
 

Hudson_Hawk

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I have some crazy stories but that''s NUTS. Personally I''d email him tell him you''re not interested and thenclose that email account and open a new one. Or program it so his emails go right to your junk mail. Does he have your phone number too? You said he didn''t know where you live, right?
 

HappyNewLife

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oh my, he sounds batshit crazy!!! I think you have two options--- brutal honesty or complete avoidance. However, since he knows where you work, I would recommend honesty. And get it ALL in writing. Text or email him that you aren''t interested-- keep a "paper trail" so that if you have to involve authorities, you have evidence that you set boundaries and that he is violating them.

Gosh, I hope he disappears ASAP. he sounds like a freaking lunatic!
 

sba771

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I would call your phone service and block his number and maybe you can have him removed from your bar should he come to harass you?
 

CatLady

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I've never emailed him. I don't even know his last name. He somehow knows mine though because he told me he crept on my facebook with his friends. He was like "Why are you a fan of Doggie DNA, what is MGMT?". One of my good friends is a cop, so I know that I can get him to intervene if needed. I hope that it doesn't get to that point. Also, is "chicken dinner" some kind of code for sex or something? He talks about chicken dinners all of the time and I honestly have no idea what it means.

ETA - another strange thing. He said that his name was Bill, but when he called and left a voicemail he said some other name. Something like Grant or something that I couldn't understand but it defintely was not Bill so I don't know if it was his last name.
 

KittyGolightly

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If I were you, I would change my phone number. I''d also take a look at the privacy settings on my FB page.

Also, please let your coworkers and manager know that this guy is bothering you. Your workplace seems to be the only place he knows where to find you. You need to be extra careful, especially going to your car after work.

And if you have a cop friend, you might as well let him know what''s going on sooner than later. He may have some good suggestions for you.
 

CatLady

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Ok, I googled his phone number, which gave me a link to his work. I found out his full name and looked him up on the courts website. His little domestic violence charge doesn''t seem so little - he was sentenced to 30 days in jail and a year of probation, and ordered "NO CONTACT WITH woman''s name/RESIDENCE/PLACE OF EMPLOY NO FIREARMS/AMMUNITION/DRUGS/ALCOHOL". Also, he has had to have his wages garnished for child support, and oh yeah, he''s really 42. What a freaking loser. Boy do I know how to pick them. I''m texting my cop friend right now.
 

TooPatient

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Date: 4/27/2010 1:19:28 PM
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If I were you, I would change my phone number. I''d also take a look at the privacy settings on my FB page.

Also, please let your coworkers and manager know that this guy is bothering you. Your workplace seems to be the only place he knows where to find you. You need to be extra careful, especially going to your car after work.

And if you have a cop friend, you might as well let him know what''s going on sooner than later. He may have some good suggestions for you.
Ditto to all. Especially talking to your friend. He deals with this kind of thing and may be able to give you advice on how to protect yourself from this guy (new number, blocked e-mails, etc.)

You should also do a search on your name and see if your address or anything comes up. I know that mine doesn''t (well, my last address does) but FI''s does.
 

HappyNewLife

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I would make sure you get escorted to your car at the end of your shifts from now on. Ugh, he sucks. and definitely change your FB privacy settings so that ONLY FRIENDS can see anything you write or find out any info about you. And ditto on briefing your cop friend on this sooner rather than later.
 

beezygal

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omg.. ditto to telling your cop friend..

for the time being, please becareful!!!
 

dawnabee

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Oh my... please be careful! Let everyone know you have a creeper bothering you so that if your late to somewhere that someone can check on you and that you are covered! If you walk alone carry your keys between your fingers for protection too (heaven forbid you might use them). Also do call your phone provider and block his number... do not respond to him as it will fuel his fire. He was probably drunk when he said chicken dinner unless he is being a pervert as well and referring to you in slang as a "chicken" which you may look up on urbandictionary.com because I''d rather not say what it means lol

Anyway thats the least of your worries I hope he disappears!
 

junebug17

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Oh my God, what a lunatic, please be careful! Everyone else has offered great suggestions, please keep yourself safe. Try to always be with someone, and maybe get some mace to carry with you. I'm sorry, I sound a little over-board, but I am worried for you. Please keep us posted.
 

laine

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Yeah, eww:
chicken dinner on urban dictionary

ETA: I apologize--the last definition is totally gross. The first is that it means to have sex. Just know that and don't even click the link.
 

CatLady

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My cop friend has been briefed on the situation. He told me that I need to tell him to stop contacting me, and if he continues it will be considered telephone harrassment. He also said that he will drive by when I''m getting off work if I need him to. Hopefully the creep will just leave me alone though.
 

elrohwen

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Chicken dinner is a slang for having sex with someone (getting laid = getting a chicken dinner).

What a creep! I don''t really have any good advice. I think I would just continue to ignore, but be careful if he escalates and get your cop friend involved. It may be enough to threaten that you have a good cop friend.
 

monarch64

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Oh. I thought it was like Engagement Chicken. Huh.
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ETA: IGNORE HIM.
 

elrohwen

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Date: 4/27/2010 3:44:34 PM
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Oh. I thought it was like Engagement Chicken. Huh.
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Hahahaha.


Hey, the guy just wants to eat some lovely roasted, or maybe fried, chicken over here! Give him a break

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Erin

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CatLady I''m sorry you''re going through this.
You learned a lesson though, right? You can look at some fish without even taking them out of the water.
 

mary poppins

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OMG, totally creepy! I''m glad you told your cop friend already and he''s offered to help if necessary. Ditto on telling the creep via text that you don''t want to see him and also getting an escort to you car after work.
 

merilenda

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I don''t have anything really insightful to add that hasn''t already been said, but I agree that you should document all that you''re doing to let him know that you''re not interested and that he needs to leave you alone. Just be extra careful about locking your doors and windows and walking alone. Ex: don''t leave your door unlocked, even if you''re just taking out the trash or something.

Make sure that your cop friend and others know this guy''s name and where to locate him. Chicken dinner? Wow...I''ve never heard that one either. This guy sounds very scary (and he has the record to back it up).
 

babygirl

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Haha oh my god is this guy a real person?!?!! He sounds like he might have EVERY PROBLEM THAT EXISTS. Sorry you managed to get sucked in even a little bit, CL. Good luck ditching the creeper. Maybe tell him you''re really a man?
 

Indylady

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Oh dear. Taking adderal and getting drunk, drunk texting, checking out your Facebook and calling you gangster? He sounds like a lame college freshman..

A domestic abuse charge and a hit and run change the picture entirely, and make him sound like a dangerous person to me. Please have someone walk you to your car after work, now and for a long time (scary people have long memories and sometimes come back way later to haunt their victims), and thank goodness he didn''t pick you up from your house. Try to Google yourself and your name and see if there are any links to your address online (there''s actually a site that links you directly to Google-Earth''s street view from an address of a person you search for by name). I really hope gets over you f-a-s-t! And save his texts just in case you need to show them to authorities.
 

lilyfoot

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Oh gosh this sounds scary .. take more care who you give your phone number to next time! Maybe you should run a background check beforehand, lol!
 

manderz

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Date: 4/27/2010 1:05:56 PM
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I would call your phone service and block his number and maybe you can have him removed from your bar should he come to harass you?

You actually can''t have his number blocked without a police report. A friend of mine was in a really crappy situation, so we''ve researched all that sort of stuff, unfortunately.
 

PumpkinPie

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wow! honesty would be my suggestion as well as caution! he sounds wacky
 

CatLady

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It''s been all quiet on the creeper front since Sunday night, so I''m really hoping that he leaves me alone. I need to reread my copy of ''The Gift of Fear'' apparently.

In the future I will not extend the slightest hint of kindness towards any man who I do not 1. find attractive, 2. have met some of his friends and 3. done a preliminary background check on the internet.

Luckily I have an incredibly common last name. A google search brings up over 5 million hits, when I got more specific all that showed up was some stuff from college and an obituary. I guess he could find my parent''s address, but I dare him to go try to f with my dad. All you could see on my facebook were who I was friends with and what I was a "fan" of. Luckily I''m moving in two weeks too, and one of my roommates is going to be a guy. Right now I''m living alone and it''s a little creepy anyway, and my dog will randomly jump out of bed and start growling in the middle of the night.
 

junebug17

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Glad to hear it Catlady! I think he''s gotten the message - but still be careful and take precautions. It''s good that you''re moving in a few weeks, and will have roomates. In a way, too bad he can''t run into your dad, sounds like dad would take care of him!
 

merbear1215

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The Gift of Fear! A great book. Really makes you think you should trust your gut.

Good Luck with this situation!
 

oddoneout

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I ditto changing your number and email address. I honestly don't know if this guy would take any sort of hint. He sounds like a huge loser.

ETA: I'm glad you got your cop friend involved and things have seemed to calm down. Please stay safe.
 
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