Trekkie|1412784044|3764311 said:Thomas Eric Duncan has died in Dallas, Texas: edition.cnn.com/2014/10/08/health/ebola-us
Now we wait to see if his family has managed to avoid infection.
Calliecake|1412787129|3764332 said:Trekkie|1412784044|3764311 said:Thomas Eric Duncan has died in Dallas, Texas: edition.cnn.com/2014/10/08/health/ebola-us
Now we wait to see if his family has managed to avoid infection.
Along with the paramedics who took who took him to the hospital, and those who rode in the ambulance afterward.
Calliecake|1412787129|3764332 said:Trekkie|1412784044|3764311 said:Thomas Eric Duncan has died in Dallas, Texas: edition.cnn.com/2014/10/08/health/ebola-us
Now we wait to see if his family has managed to avoid infection.
Along with the paramedics who took who took him to the hospital, and those who rode in the ambulance afterward.
chemgirl|1412788506|3764346 said:Missy: zmapp was available in extremely limited supply and it has simply ran out. The manufacturing process is extremely slow (requires modified plants to mature).
Calliecake|1412791822|3764373 said:Missy, I had heard they are out of the drug that was used to treat the two patients that were brought back from Africa. It also did not sound like there was a quick fix for getting more of the medicine. Pretty scary. I can't believe that we have not done more to prevent people who may have been exposed from entering the country.
Calliecake|1412791822|3764373 said:Missy, I had heard they are out of the drug that was used to treat the two patients that were brought back from Africa. It also did not sound like there was a quick fix for getting more of the medicine. Pretty scary. I can't believe that we have not done more to prevent people who may have been exposed from entering the country.
Calliecake|1412787129|3764332 said:Trekkie|1412784044|3764311 said:Thomas Eric Duncan has died in Dallas, Texas: edition.cnn.com/2014/10/08/health/ebola-us
Now we wait to see if his family has managed to avoid infection.
Along with the paramedics who took who took him to the hospital, and those who rode in the ambulance afterward.
missy|1412788077|3764342 said:Why was Thomas Duncan given an experimental drug and not the drug the other infected Americans were given? Was it too late in the game for him? Also, why did the hospital ER turn him away when he first went there. Could have been a different outcome and I just cannot help wonder what happened?
Zoe|1412802854|3764467 said:Calliecake|1412787129|3764332 said:Trekkie|1412784044|3764311 said:Thomas Eric Duncan has died in Dallas, Texas: edition.cnn.com/2014/10/08/health/ebola-us
Now we wait to see if his family has managed to avoid infection.
Along with the paramedics who took who took him to the hospital, and those who rode in the ambulance afterward.
Wait, the paramedics didn't die, did they? I think we're waiting to see if those who helped Duncan develop symptoms, right?
According to CNN, there's a person who claims he's come into contact with Duncan who may have gotten sick.
Also according to CNN, enhanced screening will start at 5 US airports.
missy|1412792290|3764377 said:Calliecake|1412791822|3764373 said:Missy, I had heard they are out of the drug that was used to treat the two patients that were brought back from Africa. It also did not sound like there was a quick fix for getting more of the medicine. Pretty scary. I can't believe that we have not done more to prevent people who may have been exposed from entering the country.
Yes, I agree. In the beginning of this thread I stated that the threat of infecting others in America with Ebola is not from bringing those infected American scientists/doctors over in a controlled manner but is from the general population bringing it over here unwittingly and via Commercial plane travel. Just what happened unfortunately and I am not sure what can be done to prevent similar further contagious infections from happening but clearly something needs to be done. Even if that is to say anyone traveling in the Ebola infected regions cannot re-enter the general population in the USA until the incubation period is over. Safety first. If one must travel to infected areas they have to pay the price so as to prevent infecting others.
Thanks for that info Trekkie.
Calliecake|1412812297|3764563 said:Zoe|1412802854|3764467 said:Calliecake|1412787129|3764332 said:Trekkie|1412784044|3764311 said:Thomas Eric Duncan has died in Dallas, Texas: edition.cnn.com/2014/10/08/health/ebola-us
Now we wait to see if his family has managed to avoid infection.
Along with the paramedics who took who took him to the hospital, and those who rode in the ambulance afterward.
Wait, the paramedics didn't die, did they? I think we're waiting to see if those who helped Duncan develop symptoms, right?
According to CNN, there's a person who claims he's come into contact with Duncan who may have gotten sick.
Also according to CNN, enhanced screening will start at 5 US airports.
Hi Zoe, You are correct. No paramedics have died or gotten sick. I believe one of the people who came to quarantine Thomas Eric Duncan's apartment and was in the apartment has become ill. It will be another 48 hours before they know if he has Ebola.
Zoe|1412846789|3764753 said:Calliecake|1412812297|3764563 said:Zoe|1412802854|3764467 said:Calliecake|1412787129|3764332 said:Trekkie|1412784044|3764311 said:Thomas Eric Duncan has died in Dallas, Texas: edition.cnn.com/2014/10/08/health/ebola-us
Now we wait to see if his family has managed to avoid infection.
Along with the paramedics who took who took him to the hospital, and those who rode in the ambulance afterward.
Wait, the paramedics didn't die, did they? I think we're waiting to see if those who helped Duncan develop symptoms, right?
According to CNN, there's a person who claims he's come into contact with Duncan who may have gotten sick.
Also according to CNN, enhanced screening will start at 5 US airports.
Hi Zoe, You are correct. No paramedics have died or gotten sick. I believe one of the people who came to quarantine Thomas Eric Duncan's apartment and was in the apartment has become ill. It will be another 48 hours before they know if he has Ebola.
Oh okay, I wondered if I missed something. I think the other person is a deputy sheriff who didn't have direct contact with Duncan. I think the latest CNN report I heard was that he hasn't had any symptoms yet so they're hopeful it's not Ebola. Better to be cautious and get checked out though, just in case.
I was listening to NPR yesterday morning and they were interviewing medical professionals in Alabama (or was it Arkansas?) who will be training/helping others in Liberia and SL. They described the process of putting on and taking off the has mat suit and how tricky it is to keep everything covered. They had a lot of difficulties. It was an interesting interview.
ksinger|1412847110|3764754 said:It would make instructive listening for anyone who can't quite understand how docs and other care-givers get infected.
ksinger|1412847110|3764754 said:I was listening to NPR yesterday morning and they were interviewing medical professionals in Alabama (or was it Arkansas?) who will be training/helping others in Liberia and SL. They described the process of putting on and taking off the has mat suit and how tricky it is to keep everything covered. They had a lot of difficulties. It was an interesting interview.
distracts|1412884027|3764974 said:ksinger|1412847110|3764754 said:It would make instructive listening for anyone who can't quite understand how docs and other care-givers get infected.
Yeah, it's not that the disease's mechanisms of transmission aren't understood, it's that protecting yourself 100% from them is hard, and doing it over and over again gives you new opportunities for error, and people make mistakes and then get sick and possibly die.
Calliecake|1412812655|3764567 said:missy|1412792290|3764377 said:Calliecake|1412791822|3764373 said:Missy, I had heard they are out of the drug that was used to treat the two patients that were brought back from Africa. It also did not sound like there was a quick fix for getting more of the medicine. Pretty scary. I can't believe that we have not done more to prevent people who may have been exposed from entering the country.
Yes, I agree. In the beginning of this thread I stated that the threat of infecting others in America with Ebola is not from bringing those infected American scientists/doctors over in a controlled manner but is from the general population bringing it over here unwittingly and via Commercial plane travel. Just what happened unfortunately and I am not sure what can be done to prevent similar further contagious infections from happening but clearly something needs to be done. Even if that is to say anyone traveling in the Ebola infected regions cannot re-enter the general population in the USA until the incubation period is over. Safety first. If one must travel to infected areas they have to pay the price so as to prevent infecting others.
Thanks for that info Trekkie.
They stated on the local Chicago news tonight that they were going to begin screening at O'Hare Airport NEXT week. I have no idea why they are waiting.
kenny|1413142104|3766159 said:Yes that hospital ER screwed up royally.
Patient told nurse where he just arrived from Liberia but attending physician didn't get the word.
Now the million-dollar question is, "WTF! WHY NOT!?!"
Some are blaming the move from paper medical records to electronic/computer software.
That hospital uses computers, not paper, for medical records.
My old doctor, who still uses paper records warned me that trusting software is a can of worms.
My current doctor spends more time reading and typing into his computer than talking to or facing me during an office visit.
I hate it.
Apparently my old doctor was right.
Below is an article about how the shortcomings of electronic medical record keeping may be responsible for the Ebola outbreak here.
Unfortunately the article gets ugly-political ... but the part about why electronic record keeping is inferior to paper I find very significant.
I hope the wealth, power and political connections of this woman and her medical records company does not obscure the investigation of what went wrong with the medical records software and let Ebola loose in America.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/389817/ebola-electronic-medical-records-and-epic-systems-michelle-malkin