E Ring w/ Diamond

[italy121210]

Hey there - after perusing the site for a few months i wanted to join and ask for opinions on a few items i have my eyes on for the future missus.

Ring: She wants something really unique and RG and when she saw this http://www.whiteflash.com/engagement-rings/diamond-settings/verragio-afn-5052-4-6-prong-crown-diamond-engagement-ring-3170.htm she was in awe ...so i really would like to get her this...

Diamond: Wanting to work w/ one vendor so would like to stick w/ Whiteflash...

Would like to get as big as possible while having ideal cut, eye clean diamond etc.

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3189852.htm#

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3114501.htm

These above look pretty nice...do you think a size difference would be noticeable w/ the 2?

Budget: i feel comfortable spending closer to 7-8k total than 9-10...in the long run though a couple grand really isn't a huge deal...

Thoughts are welcomed and appreciated!

 

[Niel]

Hey there - after perusing the site for a few months i wanted to join and ask for opinions on a few items i have my eyes on for the future missus.

Ring: She wants something really unique and RG and when she saw this http://www.whiteflash.com/engagement-rings/diamond-settings/verragio-afn-5052-4-6-prong-crown-diamond-engagement-ring-3170.htm she was in awe ...so i really would like to get her this...

Diamond: Wanting to work w/ one vendor so would like to stick w/ Whiteflash...

Would like to get as big as possible while having ideal cut, eye clean diamond etc.

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3189852.htm#

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3114501.htm

These above look pretty nice...do you think a size difference would be noticeable w/ the 2?

Budget: i feel comfortable spending closer to 7-8k total than 9-10...in the long run though a couple grand really isn't a huge deal...

Thoughts are welcomed and appreciated!

and it absolutely has to be that setting? I ask only because Verragio isn't the best quality. Gypsy Im sure will chime in, she's looked at it a lot, and i just don't think its worth the 3k you're paying for it.

ETA: Im sorry if i sound discouraging, but 3k is a lot for a setting, and this is an important purchase. I don't want you dropping that kind of money with high expectations and being let down by the quality. Maybe you can go see them in person, maybe you'll be happy with the quality for the price.

 

[italy121210]

Thanks for your reply, not sure that it"has" to be it I just wanted it to be since I know this was her favorite. We browsed through many different rings etc. I'm surprised at the questionable quality of this one you mentioned considering it's hefty price tag. I would like to try and see something like this ring in person with her as I thought maybe it would be too big or gaudy on her finger. In fact I did mention it's size and that didn't dissuade her at all. When she saw these Verragio beaded rings it really spoke to her especially this one.

 

[Niel]

Thanks for your reply, not sure that it"has" to be it I just wanted it to be since I know this was her favorite. We browsed through many different rings etc. I'm surprised at the questionable quality of this one you mentioned considering it's hefty price tag. I would like to try and see something like this ring in person with her as I thought maybe it would be too big or gaudy on her finger. In fact I did mention it's size and that didn't dissuade her at all. When she saw these Verragio beaded rings it really spoke to her especially this one.

I was surprised too, but at a point a "brand" can command a lot of money.

This isn't exactly the same, but Gabriel and Co makes similar settings with that swirly underside, and for much cheaper. And I'm certain they could do rose gold.
https://bridal.gabrielny.com/product/ER7723W44JJ#sthash.gEfnP6Ef.ITIf8L2V.dpbs

maybe sense you're shopping together have her poke around the website a bit? they have literally dozens and dozens of settings, maybe one might strike her fancy.

and they have stones in your price range too

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/12528/

but thats just what i remember was similar to that setting. Best thing to do is see it in person, if she likes it, then problem solved!

 

[Gypsy]

I do not like the quality of Verragio settings, and do indeed feel they are over priced.

HOWEVER as the setting is 'only' 3k and it is what she wants, exactly. That's what I would get her. I would not get her a different setting UNLESS you can involve her in the choice, and she choses another setting. Otherwise she will be disappointed.

 

[italy121210]

Thanks I truly do appreciate the feedback. Is there something in particular with Verragio quality? I've done some searching and haven't found quality control issues, I'm not doubting you just wondering?

Great idea of searching more with her and possibly finding something else w/o disappointing her.

Are taccori rings considered quality pieces?

 

[Gypsy]

Verragio just looks cheap, the settings are light, the diamonds are tiny and not especially sparkly. I actually like some of the designs. So I went out here to some local retailers and the pave quality was just cheap. I had (have, somewhere) a pave ring I got for ebay form China. And honestly the pave quality was the same. My setting was 500. And that's pretty much what the Verragio settings look like. I also know of two very good jewelers: Joe Escobar and Brian Gavin that have chosen not to carry the line because of exactly that.

At Joe Escobar they had one of the 'sample' rings they had bought on clearance and I compared it head to head with Vatche. And Vatche won hands down.

Tacori, yes, tacori is good quality. But they are VERY expensive.

See if she likes anything at Beverly K. Anything you see by them can be made in rose gold.

I'd also like to show you these rings, I think ANY of these would look fantastic in rose gold. http://www.erikawinters.com/

Also check out Vatche: http://www.dvatche.com/

And these: http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/engagement-rings/side-stones/ They pretty much all come in Rose Gold (you can select rose gold, 18kt and 14kt -- make sure you look at both the 18kt and the 14kt selections, some designs are available in one alloy but not the other).

She honestly might love this one: http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/engagement-rings/side-stones/

 

[Gypsy]

Couple more:

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/engagement-rings/pave-and-side-stones/shelby-sholdt-18k-rose-gold-5841r18
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/engagement-rings/pave-and-side-stones/nicole-18k-rose-gold-5930r18 can be made for a round
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/engagement-rings/pave-and-side-stones/the-anita-halo-18k-rose-gold-5950r18

 

[italy121210]

Thank you i will look into all of the links you provided and will feel her out on some of these

 

[italy121210]

She honestly might love this one: http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/engagement-rings/side-stones/

Which one were you referring to exactly here? Went to a page full of rings hehe

 

[Gypsy]

I really suggest that you both just look through all the links together.

Few more:
http://www.maevona.com/product/MVA33_EOR_SQ_PRO___
http://www.maevona.com/product/MVA33_EOR_OV

http://www.maevona.com/product/MVA33_EOR

 

[Gypsy]

She honestly might love this one: http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/engagement-rings/side-stones/

Which one were you referring to exactly here? Went to a page full of rings hehe

Hehe: http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/engagement-rings/pave-and-side-stones/lace-18k-rose-gold-5934r18-1

 

[Niel]

Some ritani ones she might enjoy (they do rose gold even though its not on there sight. And wf sells them. )
http://www.ritani.com/engagement-rings/lattice-micropave-diamond-band-engagement-ring-in-14kt-white-gold/8067

http://www.ritani.com/engagement-rings/micropave-braided-diamond-band-engagement-ring-with-milgrain-finish-in-18kt-yellow-gold/12057

 

[distracts]

I have a concern about the setting as well - it's 20k rose gold, and I've seen 20k rose gold and it's quite yellow with only the barest hint of rose. I haven't seen Verragio's 20k rose gold but I can't imagine it would be different since there's so much gold in it. Exactly how rosy does she want the rose gold to appear? It could be that Verragio has lower karatages of rose gold available but I have no idea. I would be sure to look at 18k and 14k rose gold by some different brands in person if you can to determine how rosy you like it to be.

 

[italy121210]

Great suggestions folks, after discussing about Verragio quality or lack thereof, she was OK with looking at other rings. Her styles keep changing hehe sounds like she wants unique rg ring with some finger coverage.

She really liked this after looking at everything WF and majority of BG ring inventory.
http://www.whiteflash.com/engagement-rings/diamond-settings/tacori-2639-rdp-dantela-spotlight-diamond-engagement-ring-2542.htm

Still have Gabriel and a few others to browse together. ..

Btw any difference w/ 14k vs 18kt rg?

 

[Niel]

Great suggestions folks, after discussing about Verragio quality or lack thereof, she was OK with looking at other rings. Her styles keep changing hehe sounds like she wants unique rg ring with some finger coverage.

She really liked this after looking at everything WF and majority of BG ring inventory.
http://www.whiteflash.com/engagement-rings/diamond-settings/tacori-2639-rdp-dantela-spotlight-diamond-engagement-ring-2542.htm

Still have Gabriel and a few others to browse together. ..

Btw any difference w/ 14k vs 18kt rg?

Less actual gold. So more of the stuff that makes the ring pink. So on average 14 k is more pink, where 18k (the one with more gold) ends up looking more coppery

 

[Niel]

She seems to be into the vintage styling. What would you think of that setting with this. Gog sells tacori and says you get a 3% discount if your setting costs more than 2500. I'd probably get the 14k myself just because I like how pink it is with such a white stone.
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/12279/

 

[italy121210]

A bit of an update, we casually looked thru online inventories and she really liked several different rings! So being set on one is not the case which is nice for me haha. Anyway, she liked a few from beverly, vatche, and one from Gabriel nd co. Alot. I got a much better idea of the styles she likes. Is Gabriel decent quality? It certainly is much cheaper which could result in a larger rock

Thanks so much for the help, I'm going for 14kt rg to be more on the pink side.

Also Neil, that's a beautiful av f stone. Is it accurate tho that having rose gold means going down in color say to a H or I Is completely acceptable still appearing very white since RG Background?

 

[Niel]

I have seen g&co settings in real life and I thought the quality was nice particularly for the price . Which settings did she like?

Also even if you were going with white metal you could go with an h or I and it look white.you're right it doesn't have to be that white. I just thought that stone was a nice price for the size and the kind of cut,but of course its a bit more expensive because its a branded cut.

You I'm sure could go with a regular MRB depending on the Gabriel and co.

 

[italy121210]

She liked this at Gabriel nd co. https://bridal.gabrielny.com/product/ER7543K44JJ

it's 14kt...i will say that from when we first started looking several months ago she always liked this kind of 'twist criss cross' type...consistent there

hhmm...it seemed most of the others were 18kt...like the tacori setting
http://www.tacori.com/engagement/2620rdsmppk.html ; very nice

dvatche swan w/ pave not sure if could come in RG
http://www.goodoldgold.com/images/settings/Vatche%20Files%20w%203%20view%20large%20file/196%20SWAN%20W%20PAVE/196%20swan%20pave%203%20view%20large.jpg

as well as solstice http://www.goodoldgold.com/images/settings/Vatche%20Files%20w%203%20view%20large%20file/281%20SOLSTICE%20PAVE/281%20solstice%20pave%203%20view%20large.jpg

 

[Gypsy]

I like the bottom three. Get quotes for them in the rose gold (I think Vatche does come in RG).

What size center are you getting? I think the Vatche stones will be nice with a 1.25 or 7mm stone. The Tacori would look fantastic with a .70 and up stone.

 

[Niel]

has she seen this tacori? the MSRP is listed less than that verragio, Im not usually a fan of Tacori myself but the profile plus the swirly bit in the rose gold? love
http://www.tacori.com/engagement/2565mdrd75pk.html

 

[italy121210]

Gypsy - budget of 7-8 total is what I'm trying to stay with.

I will check for quotes and may have to go a step further and ask about the pinkness of the various rings. .. seems 14kt RG Is the huge minority here!

Neil- Yes we came across that exact tacori yest during a Lil search. . She really liked it. .. Then we looked at ritani lattice you linked above and she graded that one a10. So there are Def several she would like. I just need to make sure it's more on the pink side.

From our looking together, I would say she likes the twist Gabriel, lattice ritani, nd a beaded example from JA, and the few vatche the most. I know, it's hard to believe yet those are what she rates the highest

 

[Niel]

Gypsy - budget of 7-8 total is what I'm trying to stay with.

I will check for quotes and may have to go a step further and ask about the pinkness of the various rings. .. seems 14kt RG Is the huge minority here!

Neil- Yes we came across that exact tacori yest during a Lil search. . She really liked it. .. Then we looked at ritani lattice you linked above and she graded that one a10. So there are Def several she would like. I just need to make sure it's more on the pink side.

From our looking together, I would say she likes the twist Gabriel, lattice ritani, nd a beaded example from JA the most. I know, it's hard to believe yet those are what she rates the highest

not hard to believe those are nice! And lucky you the prices are very reasonable. I had a ritani myself and i am quite partial to the quality. You know i believe they would do the ring in 14k, even if the website only listed 18k. never hurts to ask!

If it were me, id probably do that one because it seems the most against trend. Simple. classic. twisty halos are very "right now!" and in a few years they may still scream 2014

 

[italy121210]

FYI - i emailed D'Vatche directly and then responded in less than 12 hours stating they can do 14kt OR 18kt RG!!! That's great news

I will inquire w/ Ritani later on to also check about 14kt RG...

ATM, i would say top two are:
Vatche Solstice (looks like prongs are hearts)
http://www.goodoldgold.com/images/settings/Vatche%20Files%20w%203%20view%20large%20file/281%20SOLSTICE%20PAVE/281%20solstice%20pave%203%20view%20large.jpg

AND

Ritani Lattice
http://www.whiteflash.com/engagement-rings/diamond-settings/ritani-anadare-diamond-engagement-ring-2147.htm

And then there's the Gabriel and Co. - i do think the quality of these other 2 above are more solid though and am trying to forget about this one. It would be in her top 3 though...

Thanks for all the help, i am glad to be including her, after all she'll be the one wearing it! And, it's fun!

 

[Niel]

Is the size of the center stone important to her? If so, I'd go with the cheaper of the two,so you had more for the stone.

 

[italy121210]

^to a degree, yes. The rg ring for her is more important I believe. I'm hoping to be able to find closer to a typical carat's dimensions than further away so something near 6.2mm. ..

 

[Niel]

With that ritani you should be able to afford a ct.

 

[Niel]

I saw you bumped this thread.

So, like i said i think you could get over a ct if you went with the ritani.

For example, id want to make sure this is eye clean but

http://www.ritani.com/diamonds/round-diamond-1-13-Carat-I-color-GIA-certified/D-1J7MSQ

If its 14k rose, and you pay by wire, its under 8k

 

[pyramid]

Great suggestions folks, after discussing about Verragio quality or lack thereof, she was OK with looking at other rings. Her styles keep changing hehe sounds like she wants unique rg ring with some finger coverage.

She really liked this after looking at everything WF and majority of BG ring inventory.
http://www.whiteflash.com/engagement-rings/diamond-settings/tacori-2639-rdp-dantela-spotlight-diamond-engagement-ring-2542.htm

Still have Gabriel and a few others to browse together. ..

Btw any difference w/ 14k vs 18kt rg?

Less actual gold. So more of the stuff that makes the ring pink. So on average 14 k is more pink, where 18k (the one with more gold) ends up looking more coppery

The 'stuff that makes the ring pink' is copper. Therefore the 18k should not look more coppery.
In my opinion 14k looks more pinker and 18k looks nearer to 18k yellow gold, duller than 14k but with a hint of pink which
you don't see on 18k yellow. More difficult to see it is rose gold if you didn't know it, may show up next to white gold or platinum though.