Imdanny
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PilsnPinkysMom|1320802762|3057416 said:I say this in jest, of course, but they're raising quite the conservative army!
Joy.
PilsnPinkysMom|1320802762|3057416 said:I say this in jest, of course, but they're raising quite the conservative army!
Amber St. Clare|1320798086|3057347 said:If one supports a woman's right to choose, than I think her choice should supported, whether we agree with her or not.
kribbie|1320847741|3057708 said:I'm sorry, but in this day and age this is simply not okay. Regardless of the freedom of choice argument, it's not okay to just keep procreating without any consideration for the consequences we are already facing due to overpopulation.
monarch64|1320856372|3057797 said:kribbie|1320847741|3057708 said:I'm sorry, but in this day and age this is simply not okay. Regardless of the freedom of choice argument, it's not okay to just keep procreating without any consideration for the consequences we are already facing due to overpopulation.
I fail to see how we are already suffering the consequences of overpopulation, but I don't live in an overpopulated area by any means. And, if it's not okay to just keep procreating, where would you draw the line, Kribbie? Just 2 children per household? You get into rather dangerous territory when you start telling people it's not okay to do what they're doing because YOU are not comfortable with their lifestyle, don't you think?
kribbie|1320858780|3057836 said:monarch64|1320856372|3057797 said:kribbie|1320847741|3057708 said:I'm sorry, but in this day and age this is simply not okay. Regardless of the freedom of choice argument, it's not okay to just keep procreating without any consideration for the consequences we are already facing due to overpopulation.
I fail to see how we are already suffering the consequences of overpopulation, but I don't live in an overpopulated area by any means. And, if it's not okay to just keep procreating, where would you draw the line, Kribbie? Just 2 children per household? You get into rather dangerous territory when you start telling people it's not okay to do what they're doing because YOU are not comfortable with their lifestyle, don't you think?
It has nothing to do with my personal level of comfort. It's about the high levels of unemployment, environmental degradation, poor quality of water, scarce availability of food sources, and other related issues. It's not something to disregard just because we don't all see it in our neighbourhood. Everyone is encouraged to ‘want’ and perceive that they ‘need’ to consume beyond the planet’s ability to provide. I know it's not a popular opinion, but nevertheless I do think a line has to be drawn somewhere.
Touchémonarch64|1320861223|3057871 said:kribbie|1320858780|3057836 said:monarch64|1320856372|3057797 said:kribbie|1320847741|3057708 said:I'm sorry, but in this day and age this is simply not okay. Regardless of the freedom of choice argument, it's not okay to just keep procreating without any consideration for the consequences we are already facing due to overpopulation.
I fail to see how we are already suffering the consequences of overpopulation, but I don't live in an overpopulated area by any means. And, if it's not okay to just keep procreating, where would you draw the line, Kribbie? Just 2 children per household? You get into rather dangerous territory when you start telling people it's not okay to do what they're doing because YOU are not comfortable with their lifestyle, don't you think?
It has nothing to do with my personal level of comfort. It's about the high levels of unemployment, environmental degradation, poor quality of water, scarce availability of food sources, and other related issues. It's not something to disregard just because we don't all see it in our neighbourhood. Everyone is encouraged to ‘want’ and perceive that they ‘need’ to consume beyond the planet’s ability to provide. I know it's not a popular opinion, but nevertheless I do think a line has to be drawn somewhere.
I understand what you're saying. However, what about the population controls already in place? Abortion is legal in many countries, there are wars happening, people are killed by others constantly, and of course we experience natural disasters which claim thousands if not hundreds of thousands of lives every so often. Heck, what about all the childless-by-choice families? I just feel that families like the Duggars are so few and far between and that this is not something likely to turn into a trend that saying "it's not okay" is unnecessarily harsh, kwim? I guess I just have more of a "live and let live" mentality these days.
part gypsy|1320871628|3058028 said:I guess I come down to feeling, as long as her doctor feels it is safe for her to have another child, that it is between her and her husband. I guess I'm just surprised that her ob gyn has given her the go ahead given her age and potential complications which could leave 19 dependents motherless.
ededdeddy|1320862605|3057894 said:I've heard the family claims themselves as a church and pays no taxes whatsoever. That has to help.
part gypsy|1320871628|3058028 said:I guess I come down to feeling, as long as her doctor feels it is safe for her to have another child, that it is between her and her husband. I guess I'm just surprised that her ob gyn has given her the go ahead given her age and potential complications which could leave 19 dependents motherless.
Maria D|1320881715|3058161 said:Politically, I fully support this woman's right to choose to have as many children as she wants. Personally, I think she's nuts, but that's just my uninformed opinion; I've never watched the show.
I don't get all the concern over her and her future baby's health. This couple chooses this risky behavior and they are well equipped to handle the consequences. Should she die during childbirth, there are plenty of surrogate parents to take care of the existing kids. Should she lose the baby, she's got 19 other kids. If either of these things happen, or if the child survives but is profoundly hand-capped, this family will take it in stride and believe it was all part of god's plan for them. Why the worry?