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Donald Trump is saying one of the first things he will do if elected President is get rid of gun free zones on schools.
Calliecake|1452299238|3972969 said:Donald Trump is saying one of the first things he will do if elected President is get rid of gun free zones on schools.
Calliecake|1452299238|3972969 said:Donald Trump is saying one of the first things he will do if elected President is get rid of gun free zones on schools.
packrat|1452302141|3972993 said:Which means..what, really? If someone is going to shoot up a school, they're not going to say aw shit, I guess I can't b/c of this sign and then walk away. As we've seen. Gun free zones=most law abiding citizens won't carry there.
missy|1452351862|3973167 said:Rhea, thanks for that info. Looks like my first choice Australia (should Trump become president) won't allow us to relocate permanently.
Fortunately I think Trump has no chance of being elected.
jordyonbass|1452352494|3973173 said:missy|1452351862|3973167 said:Rhea, thanks for that info. Looks like my first choice Australia (should Trump become president) won't allow us to relocate permanently.
Fortunately I think Trump has no chance of being elected.
They have to find you to send you back, we're a landmass the same size roughly as the US but with less than 10% of the population so as you can imagine our authorities are much smaller in numbers. Plus I can teach you some of my bush survival tricks which will make it even harder for immigration officers to find you and send you back
Rhea|1452351216|3973163 said:The problem is, moving to where? The world as a whole is very anti-immigrant at the moment. That includes even highly educated, white skinned, high earning immigrants who have no medical problems or criminal history. For English speaking Western countries it's not abnormal for immigrants to only be considered if they are on a skills shortage list and have met age and income requirements. Even then a visa may be temporary, such as tied to an employer or length of time rather than indefinite.
Canada has a quick check for eligibility here www.cic.gc.ca/english/Immigrate/index.asp
Australia here www.border.gov.au/Trav/Visa-1
UK here www.gov.uk/browse/visas-immigration
There are other countries of course, I just went for the large English speaking ones.
missy|1452352758|3973175 said:jordyonbass|1452352494|3973173 said:missy|1452351862|3973167 said:Rhea, thanks for that info. Looks like my first choice Australia (should Trump become president) won't allow us to relocate permanently.
Fortunately I think Trump has no chance of being elected.
They have to find you to send you back, we're a landmass the same size roughly as the US but with less than 10% of the population so as you can imagine our authorities are much smaller in numbers. Plus I can teach you some of my bush survival tricks which will make it even harder for immigration officers to find you and send you back
Thank you Jordy! I appreciate your offer and I will keep that in mind. It's good to have a plan just in case the unthinkable happens.
I would love living in Australia.
monarch64|1452355022|3973192 said:It's a discussion I've had with my husband for years now. We have a plan and it doesn't include English-speaking countries.
Rhea|1452355625|3973195 said:monarch64|1452355022|3973192 said:It's a discussion I've had with my husband for years now. We have a plan and it doesn't include English-speaking countries.
That sounds exciting! As an immigrant, I just get a bit frustrated when people throw the idea of immigrating around easily. Most people I speak with assume I must have done something wrong because surely it'd be easier to move and cheaper than I made it.
missy|1452347815|3973147 said:Monnie, I'm moving too if Trump is elected.
That man is dangerous in so many ways.
packrat|1452302141|3972993 said:Which means..what, really? If someone is going to shoot up a school, they're not going to say aw shit, I guess I can't b/c of this sign and then walk away. As we've seen. Gun free zones=most law abiding citizens won't carry there.
He will not be the GOP nominee.missy|1452351862|3973167 said:Rhea, thanks for that info. Looks like my first choice Australia (should Trump become president) won't allow us to relocate permanently.
Fortunately I think Trump has no chance of being elected.
momhappy|1452359929|3973229 said:packrat|1452302141|3972993 said:Which means..what, really? If someone is going to shoot up a school, they're not going to say aw shit, I guess I can't b/c of this sign and then walk away. As we've seen. Gun free zones=most law abiding citizens won't carry there.
This doesn't make sense to me. If a gun-free zone means most law-abiding citizens won't be carrying, then wouldn't that maybe be more appealing to a criminal? If you are a criminal (and you want to inflict as harm as possible) wouldn't you want to choose a place where you know it's unlikely that people can shoot back? This, of course, assumes that criminals put a lot of careful thought and consideration into their plans of action, which is not always the case.
As far as Trump's talk on gun-free school zones, I know very little about it, so I'm not able to comment on it at this time. I wouldn't jump to conclusions one way or another before fact-checking.
jordyonbass|1452342218|3973137 said:packrat|1452302141|3972993 said:Which means..what, really? If someone is going to shoot up a school, they're not going to say aw shit, I guess I can't b/c of this sign and then walk away. As we've seen. Gun free zones=most law abiding citizens won't carry there.
Just out of curiosity and I ask this with all due respect packrat - if it is legal to do so, would you take a gun to a school - just in case? And if not, who do you think should? I have experience with firearms and have dealt with dangerous situations with wild dogs and boars but that sort of thing is a different situation entirely and I am not willing to say I could react effectively to a person shooting up a public place. Not many people can at all under such duress.
I have read a lot of your posts and I do understand you are pro-gun. You could say I am as well for the fact that we need them for protection in the outback from wild animals whenever doing vermin eradication, however I do not keep a firearm within 100 miles of where I live and have no interest in starting to do so. It interests me how we have such varying stances while both being relatively pro-gun.
missy|1452351862|3973167 said:Rhea, thanks for that info. Looks like my first choice Australia (should Trump become president) won't allow us to relocate permanently.
Fortunately I think Trump has no chance of being elected.
part gypsy|1452371280|3973296 said:For some reason this thread reminds me of this
http://www.theonion.com/article/gorilla-sales-skyrocket-after-latest-gorilla-attac-30860
Tekate|1452376908|3973340 said:Last January I was on NZ and Australia and we checked into the logistics of emigration, but it seemed that they do not want immigrants without being helpful to their economy.. no retirees wanted