kokolee,Date: 5/25/2007 2:53:44 PM
Author: kokolee804
Thanks for all the posts. Maybe he was having a bad day! But there is no 'other side' to the post. I just thought that people should be aware of what my experience was. The price quote he gave me was very high, even for three stone solitare designs. Maybe he just thought I was innocent? I am not sure!!!
In any case, as long as others have good experience with him , I guess it's OK!!!
But I can't see myself working with him. Customer service is such an integral part of the business and I really literally came out of his office almost in tears...
He kept on saying how he was the best in business, such a great artist, everyone else really offers nothing in comparison, and saying mean things like - if you don't want my design, go somewhere else. But I am by no means an impolite person. So I don't know why he was so hostile with me! I just asked standard questions like turnaround time, price quotes on various designs, whether he is insured (and he is NOT fully insured! yikes)....
So anyways... Just my thoughts...
Date: 5/26/2007 7:50:53 PM
Author: Harriet
kokolee,Date: 5/25/2007 2:53:44 PM
Author: kokolee804
Thanks for all the posts. Maybe he was having a bad day! But there is no ''other side'' to the post. I just thought that people should be aware of what my experience was. The price quote he gave me was very high, even for three stone solitare designs. Maybe he just thought I was innocent? I am not sure!!!
In any case, as long as others have good experience with him , I guess it''s OK!!!
But I can''t see myself working with him. Customer service is such an integral part of the business and I really literally came out of his office almost in tears...
He kept on saying how he was the best in business, such a great artist, everyone else really offers nothing in comparison, and saying mean things like - if you don''t want my design, go somewhere else. But I am by no means an impolite person. So I don''t know why he was so hostile with me! I just asked standard questions like turnaround time, price quotes on various designs, whether he is insured (and he is NOT fully insured! yikes)....
So anyways... Just my thoughts...
Judging from the time for your post, you, Kasey and I were all at LM''s office in the morning. I cannot speak for Kasey, but I saw no evidence of his having a bad day. In addition, there is another side to your encounter. I am privy to it, but do not feel at liberty to disclose LM''s side. Incidentally, LM made no request that I keep his side confidential. Please bear in mind that I am in no position to do so, and am not adjudicating between yours and his.
thats so not right discussing another client with someone.Date: 5/26/2007 7:50:53 PM
Author: Harriet
kokolee,
Judging from the time for your post, you, Kasey and I were all at LM''s office in the morning. I cannot speak for Kasey, but I saw no evidence of his having a bad day. In addition, there is another side to your encounter. I am privy to it, but do not feel at liberty to disclose LM''s side. Incidentally, LM made no request that I keep his side confidential. Please bear in mind that I am in no position to do so, and am not adjudicating between yours and his.
yea its called no class on the part of the vendor.Date: 5/26/2007 11:31:15 PM
Author: angeline
Alllllrighhhhtttt!!!! You go Harriet. At least I think so...I hope I read it right...
You know what? I love that someone thought they could be anonymous and present only their side but lo and behold........!!!!!!! there IS another side to the story!! even if we never hear it (as good sportswoman Harriet keeps mum...)
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1. Firstly, it was I who brought kokolee's factually false statements to LM's attention (I am distinguishing her objective from her subjective claims). I did so because (i) as LM's is a small operation, I would like to know what type of person I am dealing with; and (ii) as some members of our community believe, vendors ought to be able to share their side of the story. At any rate, kokolee is not a client of LM's, nor is there such a thing as jeweller-client privilege.Date: 5/26/2007 11:46:58 PM
Author: strmrdr
thats so not right discussing another client with someone.Date: 5/26/2007 7:50:53 PM
Author: Harriet
kokolee,
Judging from the time for your post, you, Kasey and I were all at LM's office in the morning. I cannot speak for Kasey, but I saw no evidence of his having a bad day. In addition, there is another side to your encounter. I am privy to it, but do not feel at liberty to disclose LM's side. Incidentally, LM made no request that I keep his side confidential. Please bear in mind that I am in no position to do so, and am not adjudicating between yours and his.
what makes ya think ya got the whole true story from him?
Hi Angeline,Date: 5/26/2007 11:31:15 PM
Author: angeline
Alllllrighhhhtttt!!!! You go Harriet. At least I think so...I hope I read it right...
You know what? I love that someone thought they could be anonymous and present only their side but lo and behold........!!!!!!! there IS another side to the story!! even if we never hear it (as good sportswoman Harriet keeps mum...)
a
Harriet, i must admit you sound like LM''s (public) defender..., after all this is a public forum!Date: 5/27/2007 12:16:14 AM
Author: Harriet
1. Firstly, it was I who brought kokolee''s factually false statements to LM''s attention (I am distinguishing her objective from her subjective claims). I did so because (i) as LM''s is a small operation, I would like to know what type of person I am dealing with; and (ii) as some members of our community believe, vendors ought to be able to share their side of the story. At any rate, kokolee is not a client of LM''s, nor is there such a thing as jeweller-client privilege.Date: 5/26/2007 11:46:58 PM
Author: strmrdr
thats so not right discussing another client with someone.Date: 5/26/2007 7:50:53 PM
Author: Harriet
kokolee,
Judging from the time for your post, you, Kasey and I were all at LM''s office in the morning. I cannot speak for Kasey, but I saw no evidence of his having a bad day. In addition, there is another side to your encounter. I am privy to it, but do not feel at liberty to disclose LM''s side. Incidentally, LM made no request that I keep his side confidential. Please bear in mind that I am in no position to do so, and am not adjudicating between yours and his.
what makes ya think ya got the whole true story from him?
2. In response to your question, please refer to the highlighted portion of my post.
Harriet, it''s your right to ask a vendor questions, but please do not take any part in resolving whatever happening between that vendor and a consumer on PS forums.Date: 5/27/2007 12:16:14 AM
Author: Harriet
1. Firstly, it was I who brought kokolee''s factually false statements to LM''s attention (I am distinguishing her objective from her subjective claims). I did so because (i) as LM''s is a small operation, I would like to know what type of person I am dealing with; and (ii) as some members of our community believe, vendors ought to be able to share their side of the story. At any rate, kokolee is not a client of LM''s, nor is there such a thing as jeweller-client privilege.Date: 5/26/2007 11:46:58 PM
Author: strmrdr
thats so not right discussing another client with someone.Date: 5/26/2007 7:50:53 PM
Author: Harriet
kokolee,
Judging from the time for your post, you, Kasey and I were all at LM''s office in the morning. I cannot speak for Kasey, but I saw no evidence of his having a bad day. In addition, there is another side to your encounter. I am privy to it, but do not feel at liberty to disclose LM''s side. Incidentally, LM made no request that I keep his side confidential. Please bear in mind that I am in no position to do so, and am not adjudicating between yours and his.
what makes ya think ya got the whole true story from him?
2. In response to your question, please refer to the highlighted portion of my post.
Guys, please do not make issues like this more dramatic than they are. Let's try to keep the discussions constructive and leading toward resolving issues, not making them more tangled because of the nature of public forums.Date: 5/27/2007 8:42:20 AM
Author: diamondseeker2006
I can only infer from reading other threads that someone came in and insisted they had an appointment at the same time of Harriet's appointment and basically took her time. So it seems natural that LM would have to apologize to Harriet and explain the situation so that she would understand why she was being forced to wait. So I see nothing out of order about Leon having to explain the situation to Harriet, and I also see nothing wrong with Harriet posting here since she was involved indirectly in this situation.Incorrect, she was "told" about it. It's obvious to me that after the initial conflict, Leon probably chose not to work with the person. And that's fine. I respect Leon for NOT coming on here to defend himself, because that almost always makes the vendor look bad whether he was in the right or in the wrong. Not quite. Vendors can come here and state their position in accurate, professional, and factual manner, thus showing their professionalism in resolving issues. Recent rings like Widget's, Kaleigh's, and Starry's give me the confidence that I'd have Leon make me a ring. Their taste is impeccable and I know they would not be happy with anything but excellent workmanship.