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Hi psers, I have recently moved into buying an e-ring for my girlfriend.
I bought a stone and would like some advice on whether or not it is good enough or I should resell it.The diamond is a 1980 graded EGL New York stone. I bought the stone in a setting mounted in a solitaire of 14k yellow gold. I paid 2500$ total secondary market for the ring and stone, so 2450 for the stone if I wanted to sell the ring (assuming 80% of scrap value on the gold weigh). My only concern is the cut. Cut scores 7+ on hca. I liked the stone, and I let my girlfriend see it and she liked the sparkle. I'm just wondering if the cut is really that much of a detriment Here are the specs.
Round brilliant cut 58 facets, 0.75 carat, internally flawless
Color: 1 (G)
Approx. Max 5.95 Min 5.90 x 3.58mm.
Table 62.0
Depth 60.4
Proportions: V. Good
Crown height 12% (11.5-12.49%)
Crown angle 32.3 (31.2-33.3)
Pavilion depth 45% (44.5-45.49)
Pavilion angle 42.0 (41.7-42.2)
Lower half 70%
Star % 55
Girdle min/max thin/thin
Girdle thickness 2.5%
Girdle thickness: thin, faceted
Finish grade: good
Polish: good
Symmetry: good
Painting/digging: negligible
Fluorescence: none
Culet: none
I ran it through facetware and it approximated a gia very good cut grade. I also looked at gia's chart grading and it looks like this cut would fall as a very good. I'm just worried with the table being huge and the crown/pavilion not that great that the diamond is losing a lot of light. Also crown/pavilion angles are not awesome, and depth relative to height not too hot either.
I met the third party at a jewlers. The jewler confirmed the stone. He said is was legit, as EGL used to have a better reputation before 2003 when EGL wasnt making enough money from their 3 first labs so they opened other labs, such as the Israel lab, which has now evaporated any reputation/sway they used to have. He told me report has 3 signatures, back when EGL used to have 3 appraisers look at the stone, and he told me that the rap for the stone was 6800/carat, so would be 5100 for this stone. He had previously offered the woman 2500, but subsuquently offered the lady 2800-3000, but the lady and I had previously agreed on 2500 so she accepted that price (she wanted to find someone to buy the ring to use rather than sell to a dealer).
Is this stone worth it with a hca like that? I like the stone and my girlfriend. It falls under a very good cut if it was gia graded....albeit a very good cut that doesnt have the best brilliance, fire, sparkle, scintillation, and/or all of terms related to sparkle. Please keep in mind I noted where rounding could occur with pavilion depth and crown depth, as that is the info I was provided, so thus the pavilion angle and crown angle, which I calculated, could be also within a range. I indicated all ranges in parenthesis.
I bought a stone and would like some advice on whether or not it is good enough or I should resell it.The diamond is a 1980 graded EGL New York stone. I bought the stone in a setting mounted in a solitaire of 14k yellow gold. I paid 2500$ total secondary market for the ring and stone, so 2450 for the stone if I wanted to sell the ring (assuming 80% of scrap value on the gold weigh). My only concern is the cut. Cut scores 7+ on hca. I liked the stone, and I let my girlfriend see it and she liked the sparkle. I'm just wondering if the cut is really that much of a detriment Here are the specs.
Round brilliant cut 58 facets, 0.75 carat, internally flawless
Color: 1 (G)
Approx. Max 5.95 Min 5.90 x 3.58mm.
Table 62.0
Depth 60.4
Proportions: V. Good
Crown height 12% (11.5-12.49%)
Crown angle 32.3 (31.2-33.3)
Pavilion depth 45% (44.5-45.49)
Pavilion angle 42.0 (41.7-42.2)
Lower half 70%
Star % 55
Girdle min/max thin/thin
Girdle thickness 2.5%
Girdle thickness: thin, faceted
Finish grade: good
Polish: good
Symmetry: good
Painting/digging: negligible
Fluorescence: none
Culet: none
I ran it through facetware and it approximated a gia very good cut grade. I also looked at gia's chart grading and it looks like this cut would fall as a very good. I'm just worried with the table being huge and the crown/pavilion not that great that the diamond is losing a lot of light. Also crown/pavilion angles are not awesome, and depth relative to height not too hot either.
I met the third party at a jewlers. The jewler confirmed the stone. He said is was legit, as EGL used to have a better reputation before 2003 when EGL wasnt making enough money from their 3 first labs so they opened other labs, such as the Israel lab, which has now evaporated any reputation/sway they used to have. He told me report has 3 signatures, back when EGL used to have 3 appraisers look at the stone, and he told me that the rap for the stone was 6800/carat, so would be 5100 for this stone. He had previously offered the woman 2500, but subsuquently offered the lady 2800-3000, but the lady and I had previously agreed on 2500 so she accepted that price (she wanted to find someone to buy the ring to use rather than sell to a dealer).
Is this stone worth it with a hca like that? I like the stone and my girlfriend. It falls under a very good cut if it was gia graded....albeit a very good cut that doesnt have the best brilliance, fire, sparkle, scintillation, and/or all of terms related to sparkle. Please keep in mind I noted where rounding could occur with pavilion depth and crown depth, as that is the info I was provided, so thus the pavilion angle and crown angle, which I calculated, could be also within a range. I indicated all ranges in parenthesis.