Black tiny spot on vs1

[Vichy1987]

Hi, idk what to do or where to turn about this, i recently got engaged and have a beautiful 1.51 princess cut color H vs1, got engaged a littlw over four weeks and i just noticed a tiny black spot on my diamond that really bothers me idk what to do i think the 30 day warranty is up now! What can i do?? Help plz im really upset!

 

[maccers]

Do you have a certificate for your diamond? If so, what lab was it graded by?

 

[Vichy1987]

Yes the diamond is certify im not sure about the lab though! Do you think theres anything i can do?

 

[Vichy1987]

I found the certificate it say it was done by EGL international

 

[Dancing Fire]

I found the certificate it say it was done by EGL international

Hate to tell you the bad news but your stone is not a H VS1 stone... ..can you trade it in for a GIA graded stone?

 

[Vichy1987]

Omg!! Why you say that?

 

[Dancing Fire]

Omg!! Why you say that?

You wanted me to lie?...

 

[Vichy1987]

Im so upset my SO spent alot of money on this ring!

 

[Vichy1987]

Do you think we can contact the company of where he bought it from? And see what can they do? We havent done a different appraisal only the one that came with my ring, what should i do?

 

[maccers]

I found the certificate it say it was done by EGL international

Not all labs grade stones to the same standard. EGL International is known to be very generous with how they grade stones. If you sent the same stone to EGL international and then to GIA, they could get drastically different results. Your VS1 EGL might get a grade of SI1 or worse at GIA. Same issue with colour and cut. It's unusual that a Stone with a visible black carbon spot would get a grade of VS1. At the VS1 level, usually the stone would be 'eye clean'.

 

[Vichy1987]

Thats what i thought too that vs1 you couldnt see imperfections with your naked eye!

 

[Lady_Disdain]

EGL is known as a soft grader, since they use different standards but the same nomenclature as GIA. Some diamonds can grade two or three grades higher on EGL than GIA. This, however, reflects on price. EGL certified stones are usually cheaper than those with GIA certificates. If you compare a similar stone to yours with a GIA certificate, it will be more expensive.

 

[Dancing Fire]

Im so upset my SO spent alot of money on this ring!

How much did he paid?... I hope he didn't paid H VS1 GIA graded price.

 

[Gypsy]

Oh. EGL. Yeah, that's not a reputable lab. Well, that's why. It's not a real VS1.

Read these:

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/been-wondering-when-this-would-happen-lawsuit-over-grading.204318/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/been-wondering-when-this-would-happen-lawsuit-over-grading.204318/[/URL] Lawsuits over EGL International.
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/egl-certification-are-any-of-them-ok.142863/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/egl-certification-are-any-of-them-ok.142863/[/URL] About EGL Labs
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/israel-egl.129920/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/israel-egl.129920/[/URL] Additional information.



I'm sorry. It stinks. Was it paid for by a credit card? Some credit cards have great buyer protection that can help you.

 

[Vichy1987]

He paid between somewhere between $8000-$9000

 

[Dancing Fire]

He paid between somewhere between $8000-$9000

A well cut 1.5ct H VS1 GIA graded stone will cost you about $10K

 

[Vichy1987]

I just hate the fact that we bought it thinking that it was a vs1 diamond.

 

[AprilBaby]

Too bad you didn't find us first!

 

[Vichy1987]

Too bad you didn't find us first!

I know! Im gonna try to figure out what i can do and definetenely get another apraisal see how it goes.

 

[Gypsy]

He paid between somewhere between $8000-$9000

A well cut 1.5ct H VS1 GIA graded stone will cost you about $10K

Nope. Your prices are way out of date.


12K-13k is the price for a 1.5 Carat GIA H VS1 with a decent cut grade.

10k you are looking at I color and eyeclean. Usually 1.4 carats too, not 1.5.

 

[Gypsy]

Too bad you didn't find us first!

I know! Im gonna try to figure out what i can do and definetenely get another apraisal see how it goes.

At least let us help you find a good appraiser. Where are you located?

 

[maccers]

He paid between somewhere between $8000-$9000

A well cut 1.5ct H VS1 GIA graded stone will cost you about $10K

Nope. Your prices are way out of date.


12K-13k is the price for a 1.5 Carat GIA H VS1 with a decent cut grade.

10k you are looking at I color and eyeclean. Usually 1.4 carats too, not 1.5.

Price-wise, it sounds like you didn't get ripped off but you also didn't get what you wanted.

How will getting an appraisal help? Sorry for my lack of understanding.

 

[Gypsy]

How will getting an appraisal help? Sorry for my lack of understanding.

It will tell her exactly what she has. And maybe give her ammunition to get a refund or return.

 

[Karl_K]

lab issues aside for a second .. is it clean?
polishing compound from polishing the ring after setting on the diamond will look just like you describe and is sometimes hard to remove.
A good steam cleaning by a pro is often needed to remove it.

 

[Dancing Fire]

He paid between somewhere between $8000-$9000

A well cut 1.5ct H VS1 GIA graded stone will cost you about $10K

Nope. Your prices are way out of date.


12K-13k is the price for a 1.5 Carat GIA H VS1 with a decent cut grade.

10k you are looking at I color and eyeclean. Usually 1.4 carats too, not 1.5.

Here's a ACA for $10.8K, so was guessing $10K for a non branded GIA stone.
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/princess-cut-loose-diamond-3189825.htm

 

[Lorelei]

lab issues aside for a second .. is it clean?
polishing compound from polishing the ring after setting on the diamond will look just like you describe and is sometimes hard to remove.
A good steam cleaning by a pro is often needed to remove it.

My thoughts too, start with that Vichy just in case it is a blob of polishing compound. If not, as you only bought the ring recently, I don't know if it might be possible to return it if you wish but there might be a chance, take it to be cleaned first.

Many congratulations on your engagement!

I will get this thread moved to Rocky Talk.

 

[Vichy1987]

Too bad you didn't find us first!

I know! Im gonna try to figure out what i can do and definetenely get another apraisal see how it goes.

At least let us help you find a good appraiser. Where are you located?

I live in houston tx, thanks alot and the reason why i wanna get another apraisal is because i wanna know exactly wath i have, he bought this ring thinking it was a color H, VS1, 1.51

 

[Vichy1987]

lab issues aside for a second .. is it clean?
polishing compound from polishing the ring after setting on the diamond will look just like you describe and is sometimes hard to remove.
A good steam cleaning by a pro is often needed to remove it.

I just got this ring 4 weeks ago so i havent hd it long for it to be dirty to the point where tou can see a black spot that wont go away, or am i wrong? Also im sure that the black spot is inside the diamond after taking a really good look at the ring

 

[Karl_K]

lab issues aside for a second .. is it clean?
polishing compound from polishing the ring after setting on the diamond will look just like you describe and is sometimes hard to remove.
A good steam cleaning by a pro is often needed to remove it.

I just got this ring 4 weeks ago so i havent hd it long for it to be dirty to the point where tou can see a black spot that wont go away, or am i wrong? Also im sure that the black spot is inside the diamond after taking a really good look at the ring

After you just got it would be when it would be most likely to have polishing compound on it.
After the benchman sets the diamond in the ring he gives the ring a final polish.
Sometimes the compound does not get totally removed from the diamond.
If its on the pavilion it can look like it is in the diamond.
I am not saying that is the case but it is certainly possible.

 

[msop04]

Too bad you didn't find us first!

I know! Im gonna try to figure out what i can do and definetenely get another apraisal see how it goes.

At least let us help you find a good appraiser. Where are you located?

I live in houston tx, thanks alot and the reason why i wanna get another apraisal is because i wanna know exactly wath i have, he bought this ring thinking it was a color H, VS1, 1.51

Isn't Whiteflash in Texas??

OP, I'd see what I had, and if it's not close to an H/VS1, then I'd push for a full refund and get the stone DF posted:

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/princess-cut-loose-diamond-3189825.htm