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In general, what should be more important to Americans in their daily life: Moral values or material concerns?

Cause if you voted Moral Values, that's not in line with Obama.
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I ignored questions like that one and the one about the brother living on a $300 salary.
Obviously, it''s a bit a biased (and the article...I know I posted it but please don''t believe I agree with what he says about the Iraq war).
I paid attention to the other questions though--energy, abortion, taxes, that sort of thing.
 

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"4. Some say Barack Obama’s plans to implement sweeping environmental regulations will raise the cost of gas, groceries, heating and air conditioning. Do you favor or oppose Obama’s environmental plans?"

Biased much? It''s like saying "Some people say that Barack Obama''s health care plan kills babies. You don''t support killing babies, do you? Do you support his health care plan?"

Ridiculous.
 

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The overwhelming majority of the questions are NOT biased, and ask you to give a straight answer based on your (assumingly educated) opinion.

Example:
3. Do you favor or oppose raising the top tax rate on the self-employed from 37.9% to 54.9%?



ETA: 7 out of 51 are what I consider politically biased.


On the article I listed above, this is what I found interesting (based on the results from the Obama test).
Disclaimer: This guy is pretty right leaning, so I took out all the biased questions and any negative unecessary words.

Obama vs. America - On the Issues

Energy Policy

America is 80% dependent upon fossil fuels and Obama wants to increase taxes on all fossil fuels. 35.5% of Americans agree, but 60.9% DISAGREE!
Obama opposes drilling for domestic fuel in ANWR and 36.3% agree, but 54.1% DISAGREE!
Obama opposes increased off-shore energy production and 27% agree. But 73% of Americans DISAGREE!
Obama wants to increase environmental regulations that will increase the already high cost of energy and 32.5% agree. But 49.1% DISAGREE!
Obama wants to raise tariffs on imported energy sources and 30.1% foolishly agree. But 61.9% DISAGREE!
Obama opposes safe clean nuclear energy and 12.8% agree. But 58.6% DISAGREE and say we should produce as much nuclear energy as possible.
Obama believes that environmental initiatives are more important than domestic energy independence and 34% agree. But 60% DISAGREE!
Tax Policy

Obama wants to increase taxes on investment earnings. 25.6% agree, but 65.9% DISAGREE!
Obama wants to increase the “death tax” and 37% of Americans agree. But 52.6% DISAGREE!
Obama plans to raise taxes on the self-employed, which provide 95% of the jobs in America today. 10.5% agree, but 84.5% DISAGREE!
Obama plans to raise taxes on all small Sub-S corporations and only 8.7% agree. But 85.4% DISAGREE!
Obama believes that a 35% tax rate is not enough for Americans earning more than 1 million a year. 33.2% agree, but 51.7% DISAGREE!
Obama wants to increase the top 1040 tax rate to 55% and 12.1% agree. But 48.5% DISAGREE and want to see the top tax rate reduced back to 28% like it was under Reagan.
Obama is proposing over $900 BILLION in new social spending during his first term and 35.8% agree. But 50.8% DISAGREE!
Obama promises to reduce individual taxes for 95% of Americans and increase taxes for only 5%. But only 5.1% think those new taxes on the “wealthy” won’t be passed on down to consumers, employees and shareholders. 55.5% think those tax increases will be passed onto consumers and 19.9% think the new taxes will result on job layoffs. A full 94.9% DISAGREE with Obama!
Still 35.7% of Americans believe that Obama’s overall tax plan will help average Americans while 51.8% DISAGREE!
Voting Rights

Obama wants felons, non-US citizens, dead people and duplicate voters to be counted in every national election. 21% agree, but 70.1% DISAGREE!
Second Amendment Rights

Obama wants all US gun manufacturers to be held legally accountable for all crimes committed with a gun. 13.9% agree, but 76.2% DISAGREE!
36 states have concealed carry gun permit laws on the books and Obama wants to eliminate all of them at the federal level. 14.8% agree, but 77.6% DISAGREE!
Obama wants new tougher gun control laws, taking guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens and leaving them only in the hands of people who don’t care what the laws say. 35.1% agree, but 60% DISAGREE!
Obama favors banning the sale of handguns in America and 36% agree. But 59% strongly DISAGREE!
Obama wants to ban the sale of standard hunting rifle ammunition in the US and 9.4% agree. But 77.1% DISAGREE!
Obama believes that Americans DO NOT have the right to use deadly force in self-defense, even in the case of violent home invasion. 7.9 agree, but 87.7% DISAGREE!
As a state senator in Illinois, Obama favored raising taxes on gun and ammunition sales by 500% in an effort to slow down purchases of both and he wants to do the same nationally. 39.8% agree, but 54.2% DISAGREE!

Social Spending

Obama plans to drastically increase the power and budget of the federal government to do more social engineering. 43% want the same government to “do more.” 49% DISAGREE!
Defense and National Security

Obama wants our law enforcement agencies to wait for a court order before stopping the next 9/11 in the ongoing war on terrorism. 41.9% agree, but 56.1% DISAGREE!
Obama wants a criminal court order before federal agents can perform a standard search and seizure of property where people are suspected of terrorist activities. 63.2% agree and only 33.5% DISAGREE!
Obama wants known terrorist operatives in America to be afforded full unfettered civil rights equal to that of every innocent American citizen. 30.1% foolishly agree, but 64% DISAGREE!
Obama believes the President should openly negotiate with terrorists and anti-American rogue regimes, such as Iran, without any preconditions. 21% agree, but 62.5% DISAGREE!
Obama demands an arbitrary troop retreat in Iraq over the next 18 months, no matter the conditions on the ground in Iraq or the consequences left behind. 43.6% agree, but 51.3% DISAGREE

Trade

Obama wants to increase taxes, tariffs and trade restrictions. 34.1% agree and think Obama will improve trade by these means. 49.8% DISAGREE!
Health Care

Obama's health care policy. 35.1% agree, but 59.9% DISAGREE!
Social Values

Obama supports abortion even when the abortion fails 17.7% of Americans agree with Obama, that doctors should not make any attempt to save the baby. But 67.8% DISAGREE!
Like China, Obama supports a woman’s right to abort her fetus on the basis of the baby’s gender alone. 12.3% agree. But 82.2% DISAGREE!
Obama opposes parental rights notification before their child can have an abortion and 19.7% agree. But 77% DISAGREE!
Obama says he has no idea when life begins and 7% are foolish enough to agree. But 58.9% DISAGREE, believing that life begins at conception and another 34.1% say that life should be protect at birth at a minimum, no matter what.
Obama says that America is no longer a Judeo-Christian nation. 40.3% of Americans say they agree with Obama’s secular socialist American vision today. But 44.4% still DISAGREE!
Obama believes that abortion should always be legal, no matter the circumstances, even once the baby is born alive. 31% agree . But 69% DISAGREE! 40% believe it should be ILLEGAL with few exceptions and 10% believe it should be ILLEGAL with NO exceptions.
Obama supports giving alternative sexual lifestyles equal status with the traditional family unit. 36.3% agree, but 58.3% DISAGREE!
Obama seeks special rights based upon race, gender, sexual preference and national origin, for taxpayer funded employment. 39.6% agree, but 53.6% DISAGREE!


Justice

Obama says the courts are “too conservative.” 32% agree, but 64% DISAGREE!

Obama supports ending secret balloting 15.4% agree, but 78% DISAGREE!



 

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LOL. Check out the book advertised at the bottom of the website.

"The Audacity of Deceit: Barack Obama''s War on American Values."

I''m sure this test won''t be biased at all.
 

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Date: 9/30/2008 4:23:45 PM
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LOL. Check out the book advertised at the bottom of the website.

''The Audacity of Deceit: Barack Obama''s War on American Values.''

I''m sure this test won''t be biased at all.
You mean like all of your Huffington post links?
 

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I fully acknowledge the Huffington Post links are biased, but they don't lead to loaded surveys.
 

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But as I said before, most of the questions aren''t biased, they are straight questions with straight answers. You all are choosing to focus only on the biased ones.
Oh well. Guess I expected to much when I thought people would focus on that aspect rather than the biased parts.
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Date: 9/30/2008 4:32:21 PM
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But as I said before, most of the questions aren''t biased, they are straight questions with straight answers. You all are choosing to focus only on the biased ones.

Oh well. Guess I expected to much when I thought people would focus on that aspect rather than the biased parts.
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If any of the questions are tipped, the survey is useless.
 

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Date: 9/30/2008 3:59:12 PM
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Biased much? It''s like saying ''Some people say that Barack Obama''s health care plan kills babies. You don''t support killing babies, do you? Do you support his health care plan?''

Ridiculous.

This one was my favorite:

13. If you knew you had a step brother who was living in a slum and barely surviving on $300 a year, would you help them financially?
 

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Date: 9/30/2008 4:36:30 PM
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Date: 9/30/2008 4:32:21 PM
Author: luckystar112
But as I said before, most of the questions aren't biased, they are straight questions with straight answers. You all are choosing to focus only on the biased ones.

Oh well. Guess I expected to much when I thought people would focus on that aspect rather than the biased parts.
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If any of the questions are tipped, the survey is useless.
It doesn't base the results on all the answers together except for the percentage you agree or disagree with Obama.
Afterwards, all the questions are broken down into your answers compared to his....which is what I c/p in an above post. That was the part I was interested in, anyway.
 

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Date: 9/30/2008 5:05:38 PM
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Date: 9/30/2008 4:36:30 PM

Author: EBree


Date: 9/30/2008 4:32:21 PM

Author: luckystar112

But as I said before, most of the questions aren''t biased, they are straight questions with straight answers. You all are choosing to focus only on the biased ones.


Oh well. Guess I expected to much when I thought people would focus on that aspect rather than the biased parts.
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If any of the questions are tipped, the survey is useless.

It doesn''t base the results on all the answers comulatively except for the percentage you agree or disagree with Obama.

Afterwards, all the questions are broken down into your answers compared to his....which is what I c/p in an above post.
Don''t you find issue with how unbalanced the categories are though? There is 1 question each under the categories of healthcare, spending, and trade but 9 abortion-related questions under the category of social issues. Not to mention the inflammatory nature of many of the questions. Come on!
 

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Date: 9/30/2008 4:39:00 PM
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Date: 9/30/2008 3:59:12 PM
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Biased much? It''s like saying ''Some people say that Barack Obama''s health care plan kills babies. You don''t support killing babies, do you? Do you support his health care plan?''

Ridiculous.

This one was my favorite:

13. If you knew you had a step brother who was living in a slum and barely surviving on $300 a year, would you help them financially?
I answered "No" to that question.
 

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Date: 9/30/2008 4:39:00 PM
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Date: 9/30/2008 3:59:12 PM

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Biased much? It''s like saying ''Some people say that Barack Obama''s health care plan kills babies. You don''t support killing babies, do you? Do you support his health care plan?''


Ridiculous.


This one was my favorite:


13. If you knew you had a step brother who was living in a slum and barely surviving on $300 a year, would you help them financially?

I remember when this first came out, except I think they just referred to him as his brother, not step brother. I love how simplistic it is. Do they know how many freaking relatives he has in Africa? Do they know that men were/are allowed to have more than one wife and so you''d end up with a crap load of siblings, let alone other relatives. Do they know that you can end up with even more that aren''t even blood related? If he took care of every poor relative he had, he wouldn''t be able to take care of his own kids. I guess sometimes it pays to read, and comprehend, his memoir.
 

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Date: 9/30/2008 5:23:08 PM
Author: Inanna

Date: 9/30/2008 5:05:38 PM
Author: luckystar112

Date: 9/30/2008 4:36:30 PM

Author: EBree



Date: 9/30/2008 4:32:21 PM

Author: luckystar112

But as I said before, most of the questions aren''t biased, they are straight questions with straight answers. You all are choosing to focus only on the biased ones.


Oh well. Guess I expected to much when I thought people would focus on that aspect rather than the biased parts.
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If any of the questions are tipped, the survey is useless.

It doesn''t base the results on all the answers comulatively except for the percentage you agree or disagree with Obama.

Afterwards, all the questions are broken down into your answers compared to his....which is what I c/p in an above post.
Don''t you find issue with how unbalanced the categories are though? There is 1 question each under the categories of healthcare, spending, and trade but 9 abortion-related questions under the category of social issues. Not to mention the inflammatory nature of many of the questions. Come on!
I completely agree with you, but perhaps they did that since most people''s beliefs seem to be driven by social issues?
 

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Sorry, this "test" is a joke and is completely meaningless.

I am so sick of seeing this BS right-wing or left-wing extreme blogging that people actually take seriously.

Like I'm going to go online and take a quiz and go "Oh! All this time I thought I was a leftie and now this quiz has made it so clear - I'm really a right-wing conservative! Thank goodness for skewed surveys!!"

And this is in no way pointed at you LuckyStar. My anger is directed at the ridiculousness of the stuff on the internet.
 

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Well, I''m taking it very personally. Shame on you, elle.
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I completely agree.
 

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Date: 9/30/2008 7:21:01 PM
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Well, I''m taking it very personally. Shame on you, elle.
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I completely agree.

Ya never know.
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Just making sure there are no unintended victims of my ranting.
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Date: 9/30/2008 4:39:00 PM
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Date: 9/30/2008 3:59:12 PM

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Biased much? It''s like saying ''Some people say that Barack Obama''s health care plan kills babies. You don''t support killing babies, do you? Do you support his health care plan?''


Ridiculous.


This one was my favorite:


13. If you knew you had a step brother who was living in a slum and barely surviving on $300 a year, would you help them financially?

Oh that''s awful, what an awful and loaded question. Reminds me of 2000 when a group called around to voters asking what they would think about McCain if they knew he fathered a black baby out of wedlock. Terrible.
 

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Date: 9/30/2008 7:21:01 PM
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Well, I''m taking it very personally. Shame on you, elle.
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I completely agree.

If you agree then why the heck did you post this crap? LOL. I mean I''m all for the facts from both sides, but this is ridiculous no?
 

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I posted it because I thought the percentage of people who took the quiz and disagreed with Obama's policies was interesting. Again, of the 51 questions in the quiz, 7 are what I would consider biased. The rest do not even tell you what Obama's stance is or what it would mean (in a conservative view) if you voted his way. It's just straight up question and answer.
When you are finished with the quiz it breaks it down question by question and shows you Obama's stance, your answer, and how Americans answered.
I thought it was interesting that on most of his tax/energy/social policies, people (who took this quiz) did not necessarily agree with him. You can't say that only conservatives took the test, or else there would be no percentage of people for his stances.

I ignored the biased questions. I scoffed at the step-brother question but went on to answer the others. I didn't think it was that hard.
 

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I counted more than seven loaded questions, but the bottom line is, it's a bum test. It has an incredibly conservative slant, one apparent even before pressing "take the test now," which makes me wonder just how accurate ALL the questions and answers are.

If you have to dodge biased questions, what's the point?
 

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We can agree to disagree.
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Fair ''nuff.
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Date: 9/30/2008 7:55:15 PM
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I posted it because I thought the percentage of people who took the quiz and disagreed with Obama's policies was interesting. Again, of the 51 questions in the quiz, 7 are what I would consider biased. The rest do not even tell you what Obama's stance is or what it would mean (in a conservative view) if you voted his way. It's just straight up question and answer.
When you are finished with the quiz it breaks it down question by question and shows you Obama's stance, your answer, and how Americans answered.
I thought it was interesting that on most of his tax/energy/social policies, people (who took this quiz) did not necessarily agree with him. You can't say that only conservatives took the test, or else there would be no percentage of people for his stances.

I ignored the biased questions. I scoffed at the step-brother question but went on to answer the others. I didn't think it was that hard.
All right then. Would you also post a link to a left leaning survey with such loaded questions against McCain? LOL Or is this as I suspect a VERY thinly vieled attempt to sway some votes for your man so the madness can continue!
 

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Date: 9/30/2008 8:42:26 PM
Author: colormyworld

Date: 9/30/2008 7:55:15 PM
Author: luckystar112
I posted it because I thought the percentage of people who took the quiz and disagreed with Obama''s policies was interesting. Again, of the 51 questions in the quiz, 7 are what I would consider biased. The rest do not even tell you what Obama''s stance is or what it would mean (in a conservative view) if you voted his way. It''s just straight up question and answer.
When you are finished with the quiz it breaks it down question by question and shows you Obama''s stance, your answer, and how Americans answered.
I thought it was interesting that on most of his tax/energy/social policies, people (who took this quiz) did not necessarily agree with him. You can''t say that only conservatives took the test, or else there would be no percentage of people for his stances.

I ignored the biased questions. I scoffed at the step-brother question but went on to answer the others. I didn''t think it was that hard.
All right then. Would you also post a link to a left leaning survey with such loaded questions against McCain? LOL Or is this as I suspect a VERY thinly vieled attempt to sway some votes for your man so the madness can continue!
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You caught me!

Um, I''m pretty sure that those who post regularly in ATW have already made up their mind. So no, not trying to "sway votes".
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I was trying to get some insight on the public opinion of some of the questions (which do not agree with Obama), but oddly no one wants to address why they think that is.
 

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Yeeeeeah,uh huh I see now. How could I have thought otherwise.
 

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Date: 9/30/2008 9:12:26 PM
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Yeeeeeah,uh huh I see now. How could I have thought otherwise.
I know. I''m so transparent.
 

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Date: 9/30/2008 9:17:29 PM
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Date: 9/30/2008 9:12:26 PM
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Yeeeeeah,uh huh I see now. How could I have thought otherwise.
I know. I''m so transparent.

I agree.
 
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