AVC + Vintage Setting Need Help

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Re: AVC + Vintage Setting Need Help

Post by ariel144 » July 31st, 2012, 5:43 pm
Written by Gypsy » July 30th, 2012, 11:18 pm:There are quite a few Beverly K dealers in Nor Cal. Pave in Berkley carries them. In San Ramon Heller carries them. In Napa there is another jeweler that carries them.

As for your BF. Well, I get sticking to a budget. But I don't get tiptoeing and the not making things complicated thing. You pick what you want, put it on hold, give the setting vendor instructions and he pays for it.

But, I would like to ask a question. Why don't you contribute your own funds to the ring budget? I would spend the 5k on a stone and a temp setting. Then save up for your dream setting yourself. That way you respect his budget, but also get what you want.


I agree with Gypsy...get the best largest stone you can afford in a temp. setting and save for your dream setting.

This AVC faces up the largest and would probably be eye clean and in your $3 k budget;

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9089/

How about that ASET? Nice stone and almost 6x6mm
Re: AVC + Vintage Setting Need Help

Post by webdiva » July 31st, 2012, 5:49 pm
Here are an H and a K (different stones from yours) in natural light in a video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICYW8pedP1s&list=UUEV7slr-i-VduBBnfv9MxhA&index=5&feature=plcp
skip to 4:02
Re: AVC + Vintage Setting Need Help

Post by webdiva » July 31st, 2012, 6:00 pm
Whichever one you decide on, you can put it on hold for $500 online after hours. You can even change your mind after that about which one you want. There are limited AVCs left in that price range and a ton of lurkers on PS, as you well know. :)
Re: AVC + Vintage Setting Need Help

Post by ariel144 » July 31st, 2012, 6:47 pm
Written by mandasand » July 31st, 2012, 1:20 pm:Hi Uber - no, that stone is not eye clean. This is what Matt said last week:
Diamond #9089 is not 100% eye clean; however the inclusion is off to the side and also hard to see. People focus their attention on the center of the diamond, so no one should notice the inclusion either unless they go far out of their way to look for it.

Oh, and I also just found this setting. Someone knock me out:
http://www.gabrielny.com/engaged/style/ER7925W83JJ


I was voting for the .92 k before i saw the video and it is still my pick. That size will not be too big for a small finger and in the video with magnification I could see no inclusion.

Also I saw an Amavida setting at a local jeweler and it was stunning and very delicate looking which is what I wanted in a setting. This is the first posting where i have seen that brand of setting online. I went to their site but the setting i saw was not in their catalog. That setting you have chosen is awesome. I think you have a winner on both counts the .92 K AVC and that Amavida setting. Can't wait to see your final pick.
Re: AVC + Vintage Setting Need Help

Post by rubybeth » July 31st, 2012, 6:58 pm
Written by mandasand » July 31st, 2012, 1:20 pm:Hi Uber - no, that stone is not eye clean. This is what Matt said last week:
Diamond #9089 is not 100% eye clean; however the inclusion is off to the side and also hard to see. People focus their attention on the center of the diamond, so no one should notice the inclusion either unless they go far out of their way to look for it.

Oh, and I also just found this setting. Someone knock me out:
http://www.gabrielny.com/engaged/style/ER7925W83JJ


Ohh, I was going to link to that setting, but thought you didn't want a halo! I think that one is lovely, too. :naughty:
"See the girl with the diamond ring/She knows how to shake that thing." —Ray Charles
Re: AVC + Vintage Setting Need Help

Post by mandasand » July 31st, 2012, 7:15 pm
I've always loved halos I was just rethinking because I've been SO indecisive about settings that I'm considering getting something more simple and then upgrading the setting down the road.

Does anyone have a favorite simple vintage style setting they want to share?? If I don't get a halo, I love double claw and fishtails prongs!!
Re: AVC + Vintage Setting Need Help

Post by ariel144 » July 31st, 2012, 7:22 pm
Written by mandasand » July 31st, 2012, 7:15 pm:I've always loved halos I was just rethinking because I've been SO indecisive about settings that I'm considering getting something more simple and then upgrading the setting down the road.

Does anyone have a favorite simple vintage style setting they want to share?? If I don't get a halo, I love double claw and fishtails prongs!!


I think this is the Amavida setting I saw at the store and loved it....the shaft was thin and elegant but substantial...it doesn't have a halo and is a very elegant victorian solitaire with those diamonds underneath the center stone were very showy from all angles. I remember it as only having four prongs but this shows 6. It was $1800 in the store and held a 9mm stone. I would call some local jewelers to see who carries Amavida and look at their settings in person.

http://www.gabrielny.com/amavida/style/ER7940W83JJ
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Re: AVC + Vintage Setting Need Help

Post by GirlyGirl » July 31st, 2012, 7:30 pm
Written by webdiva » July 31st, 2012, 6:00 pm:Whichever one you decide on, you can put it on hold for $500 online after hours. You can even change your mind after that about which one you want. There are limited AVCs left in that price range and a ton of lurkers on PS, as you well know. :)


When I was in the market for an AVC, I put a hold on on the .76 I VS1. I stalked the website and as soon as my .77 H VS2 popped up, I put a hold on that too. I decided on the .77 because it was .01 ct bigger. My deposit on the .76 was refunded.

As soon as you find a good prospect, hold it first and ask questions later. The inventory between .5 and .99 ct seems to go quickly.
Re: AVC + Vintage Setting Need Help

Post by webdiva » July 31st, 2012, 7:37 pm
Written by mandasand » July 31st, 2012, 7:15 pm:I've always loved halos I was just rethinking because I've been SO indecisive about settings that I'm considering getting something more simple and then upgrading the setting down the road.

Does anyone have a favorite simple vintage style setting they want to share?? If I don't get a halo, I love double claw and fishtails prongs!!


Have you tried on any halos in person? This type of halo is very understated and elegant, not "blingy" - if that's what you're worried about. If you love halos, get a halo.

I'm glad girlygirl just posted, because it reminds me to show you her gorgeous AVC!
http://www.pricescope.com/forum/rockytalky/i-have-the-smallest-diamond-out-of-all-my-friends-t177640.html
http://www.pricescope.com/forum/show-me-the-ring/avc-vatche-caroline-and-whiteflash-danielle-bezel-t178114.html
Re: AVC + Vintage Setting Need Help

Post by mandasand » July 31st, 2012, 7:56 pm
Written by webdiva » July 31st, 2012, 7:37 pm:
Written by mandasand » July 31st, 2012, 7:15 pm:I've always loved halos I was just rethinking because I've been SO indecisive about settings that I'm considering getting something more simple and then upgrading the setting down the road.

Does anyone have a favorite simple vintage style setting they want to share?? If I don't get a halo, I love double claw and fishtails prongs!!


Have you tried on any halos in person? This type of halo is very understated and elegant, not "blingy" - if that's what you're worried about. If you love halos, get a halo.

I'm glad girlygirl just posted, because it reminds me to show you her gorgeous AVC!
http://www.pricescope.com/forum/rockytalky/i-have-the-smallest-diamond-out-of-all-my-friends-t177640.html
http://www.pricescope.com/forum/show-me-the-ring/avc-vatche-caroline-and-whiteflash-danielle-bezel-t178114.html


I have tried on the Gabriel 7527 halo. It was the one we were going to buy but then I started 2nd guessing myself!

There is only one local jeweler that carries Gabriel and it ended up not working out with him, so if I pick a different Gabriel setting I won't be able to try it on first. I have no complaints about their settings. Really beautiful.

I'm going to send some pics to my cousin...she's like my twin!! I know she'll help me! They had their rings custom designed but she inherited her stone so they were able to put all the money towards the setting! I'm also going to ask my future mom-in-law. She's seen the Gabriel setting and loved it.
Re: AVC + Vintage Setting Need Help

Post by ariel144 » July 31st, 2012, 7:58 pm
Here is a thread of AVC's ...note how white even the L colors look. Most are set in solitaires. Great thread

http://www.pricescope.com/forum/show-me-the-ring/show-me-your-avc-avoec-diamonds-t123446.html
Re: AVC + Vintage Setting Need Help

Post by ariel144 » July 31st, 2012, 8:27 pm
Here is a discussion on why this girl picked a K AVC when she at first wanted nothing lower than an H...interesting:

http://www.pricescope.com/forum/show-me-the-ring/we-re-engaged-pics-of-my-avc-in-erd-custom-micro-pave-halo-t151072-30.html


Unread post by kinjal » 16 Feb 2011 23:43
devotedMOMMY: i love your ring, exactly what im looking to do

i know you ended up going with a K colored AVC for your center stone. can you explain what your thought process was, because i know you were initially thinking about a higher color. the reason im asking is because im looking for a stone at the moment. Budget is <$7000. Mark from ERD is searching for a Cushion Brilliant for me, but in my price range, he is recommending a 1.12G/VS1 or 1.33I/VS2 stone. Looking at GOG, I noticed http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/7804/.... 1.54K/VS2. What do you think of the stone? In your ring, can you see a difference in color between the center stone and the melee? Your expertise would be appreciated, since I love your ring and you got a stone will similar ratings as this.


here is my current thread:
http://www.pricescope.com/forum/post2853450.html#p2853450


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Unread post by DvotedMOMMY » 17 Feb 2011 03:23
@Kinjal..

First of all, Thank you for the nice thoughts on my ring! :bigsmile:

Ok,, as far as the K color? My #1 thing to tell you to do,, as is what happened with me,, as I thought I wouldnt go past an H,, is to talk to Johnathan, of Good Old Gold,, if it IS an AVC your looking for. He actually took the time, and made me a personal color comparasion video with MY diamond I was interested,, and it was IN THE BAG after that!! SOLD!!! haha

Most of the time, I never see any color, or warmth in my bEAUTIFUL K AVC. Anytime I'm out, resturants, shopping, the lighting works magic on it!! it looks not only icy white, but the large cut facets of the AVC are like no other! You get BIG, BOLD, rainbow flashes,,, I cannot go out, without someone STOPPING me, to see and ask of my ring! They always say they've NEVER seen a diamond like it!

Now,, when do i see warmth?/ Sometimes in the house, with some ambient, natural light coming in,, or in the car while I'm driving, with sunlight coming through.. If the light is coming through the ring,, instead of reflecting off of it,, i will get a warmth,, not a yellow,, just like a slight difference then the melee,,, VERY slight,, but i actually like it! My melee is an I,, so there REALLY isnt too much of a difference,, if any, because you do not see any color diferences..

We too spent $7K,,, $5k for the AVC, $2k for the setting,,, (which dont quote Me on to Mark,, I think he gave me a mega deal!) LOL

But again,,, speak to Jonathan,, he is the GREATEST! He will SHOW you anything and everything you need to know! :)

Hope this helps!

Good Luck! ;)
Re: AVC + Vintage Setting Need Help

Post by mandasand » July 31st, 2012, 8:42 pm
Thanks for all the info and links Ariel. Happy surfing for me!

Just to recap, here are the settings on my list:
http://www.gabrielny.com/engaged/style/ER7527W44JJ
http://www.gabrielny.com/engaged/style/ER7925W83JJ
http://www.gabrielny.com/engaged/style/ER7999W44JJ (they will change the prongs to claw prongs for me)
http://antiqueengagementrings.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=2299
http://antiqueengagementrings.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=1183

We are getting closer to putting something on hold...what an exciting week it's been!
Re: AVC + Vintage Setting Need Help

Post by ariel144 » July 31st, 2012, 9:18 pm
Here is a vintage solitaire setting the double claw prongs that will hold a cushion

http://www.gabrielny.com/amavida/style/ER6180W83JJ
Re: AVC + Vintage Setting Need Help

Post by woofmama » July 31st, 2012, 9:20 pm
Hi Mandasand,

I've been following your thread and want to add my vote :))

I love this K: http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9492/

I had been looking at it myself for a couple of months. I'm sure you have read every AVC thread and watched all the video's on GOG's site, I know I did when I was strongly considering an AVC. I still hope to have either one of a true antique cut stone or one of these gorgeous little sparkelies one day.

I found this site a year ago while lusting after Emerald cuts and Asschers and ended just purchasing a 1.11ct square emerald cut last week. I just had to go with my first love, ya know? Mine is from JA and is a K color. I can tell ya the cut is amazing and that baby is so bright, I don't see any color at all. And the price was amazing too. So for someone on a budget a well cut K can be a steal. I think if you order it you'll be surprised. That said, I have never seen an AVC IRL but everyone on here raves and gosh they look gorgeous ;))

Great settings you've chosen,too. I am currently in setting limbo so will probably set it in a simple solitare even though I'm an art deco girl at heart. That will give me time to make a thoughtful decision and still enjoy the diamond.
Of the setting you have chosen I like this one the most: http://antiqueengagementrings.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=1183

I can't wait to see what you pick!

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Re: AVC + Vintage Setting Need Help

Post by UberClaire » August 2nd, 2012, 10:37 am
Did you decide on the 0.92? I noticed that one disappeared from the site....
Re: AVC + Vintage Setting Need Help

Post by mandasand » August 2nd, 2012, 12:35 pm
I don't know. I noticed that too yesterday. He's a super sneaky sneaker. It's pointless to even guess (no point trying to crack someone in law enforcement).

We did look at the final setting choices last night and I think we both have a favorite. He agrees with me that we should not get anything that sits too high. He said the Gabriel settings and the halos sit too high. He worries that I will knock my stone out because I'm so clumsy. Also, I will be wearing the ring on my right hand and I'm right handed, so the ring will be exposed to more potential danger. We also agree that I should get something more delicate and simple looking because I have these really tiny fingers and we want to show off the center stone. When I tried on the Gabriel halo, it pretty much took up the whole top part of my finger - now that's finger coverage! I still had space for a thin band, though.

I asked those closest to me...BF, my cousin, my future mom-in-law. They all like these two the best (I have a fav of these two choices):
http://antiqueengagementrings.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=1183
http://antiqueengagementrings.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=2299

Plus, I've searched online and on this forum and I can't find anyone else that has these settings. So, it will be more unique :) If you search for Tacori 2620, you get over 5600 image results! The ring needs to be as special as me :)
Re: AVC + Vintage Setting Need Help

Post by Laila619 » August 2nd, 2012, 1:06 pm
Written by mandasand » August 2nd, 2012, 12:35 pm:
I asked those closest to me...BF, my cousin, my future mom-in-law. They all like these two the best (I have a fav of these two choices):
http://antiqueengagementrings.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=1183
http://antiqueengagementrings.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=2299



The second one for sure!! Love it! The fishtail prongs are gorgeous.

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Re: AVC + Vintage Setting Need Help

Post by GirlyGirl » August 2nd, 2012, 3:00 pm
Your .66 I SI1 is back on the site!

Reserve it now. Once it is reserved, you will have all the time in the world to choose a setting. We are rooting for you.
Re: AVC + Vintage Setting Need Help

Post by mandasand » August 2nd, 2012, 5:16 pm
Written by GirlyGirl » August 2nd, 2012, 3:00 pm:Your .66 I SI1 is back on the site!

Reserve it now. Once it is reserved, you will have all the time in the world to choose a setting. We are rooting for you.


Oh really? That's funny. I already have moved on from that one. Plus, it was HARD ENOUGH to try and find a setting that fits a stone smaller than .75 ct. Seriously.

It is in BFs hands now. I must let go!!

Oh, and this setting...
http://antiqueengagementrings.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=1183

...is my favorite! They told me I could do 8-prong, but if I do fishtail or split prong, it will enhance the cushion shape more than the 8-prong. If I go with this one, they will custom make the head for me. Here are some examples of the prongs they said I could get:
Fishtail: http://antiqueengagementrings.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=169
Split: http://antiqueengagementrings.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=3502

BUT, I'm letting my BF choose what setting he likes the bestest...since I love them all! I am sure he will make a great decision.
Re: AVC + Vintage Setting Need Help

Post by GirlyGirl » August 2nd, 2012, 9:17 pm
Written by mandasand » August 2nd, 2012, 5:16 pm:
Written by GirlyGirl » August 2nd, 2012, 3:00 pm:Your .66 I SI1 is back on the site!

Reserve it now. Once it is reserved, you will have all the time in the world to choose a setting. We are rooting for you.


Oh really? That's funny. I already have moved on from that one. Plus, it was HARD ENOUGH to try and find a setting that fits a stone smaller than .75 ct. Seriously.

It is in BFs hands now. I must let go!!

Oh, and this setting...
http://antiqueengagementrings.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=1183

...is my favorite! They told me I could do 8-prong, but if I do fishtail or split prong, it will enhance the cushion shape more than the 8-prong. If I go with this one, they will custom make the head for me. Here are some examples of the prongs they said I could get:
Fishtail: http://antiqueengagementrings.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=169
Split: http://antiqueengagementrings.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=3502

BUT, I'm letting my BF choose what setting he likes the bestest...since I love them all! I am sure he will make a great decision.


Yay! I can't wait for your big reveal!
Re: AVC + Vintage Setting Need Help

Post by LoveLikeCrazy » August 3rd, 2012, 8:50 am
I have been following AVC threads and after watching videos and checking out links posted here...i think i can go as low as an L (bigger rock yay!). My bf wont do the online thing tho so we are hoping to take a trip to GOG by year end. Lots of great info on this thread!

@mandasand : cant wait to the final selection!!!! :appl:



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