Undercover999
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Undercover999|1327092141|3107658 said:Calling all pics of blue gold - alloy, intermetallic, oxide, or inteference coating, lets see em!
I've done a bunch of googling but I'm hoping you pricescopers have some stuff I haven't already found/seen. Thanks!
There is thus obtained a gold bar of beautiful iridescent blue color. The shade of the color obtained depends on the time and temperature at which the metal piece is left. Lighter colors are obtained when the temperature is brought down and darker colors when the temperature is brought up.
Perhaps that is the alloy I should use with the KNO3 dip... but I have no composition information. I'll do a test.A gold and iron alloy which has an exceedingly attractive peacock blue color is already known.
Undercover999|1327199878|3108523 said:Oh one more.
While I prefer blue gold, niobium also will develop a nice blue color with a carefully controlled oxide layer (as niobium oxide is transparent). I tried it so that I'd have a backup plan if I can't make the blue gold work. This is quite easy.
Undercover999|1327198559|3108519 said:My situation is that Kelly is very pleased with her homemade e-ring (remember this?) and shes decided that we should make my wedding ring as well. I don't like jewelry but I do really like the color blue. We don't have a design chosen but we're pretty sure that we'll do something like a white gold ring with a blue "stripe" around the middle... maybe recessed if the blue material is fragile, like an oxide layer. We think we'll melt down the "leftovers" from her own ring so that our rings will be made out of the same metal.
AGBF|1327335732|3109602 said:Here's a link to a little more information on Mr. Antoniazzi! (Thanks for digging him up for us, Undercover!) I have to go back to read it now; I just skimmed it. What I want to know is how he could could make 24K blue gold, which is what I thought I read. Surely that is impossible! 24K gold is pure gold. Maybe I saw 22K and misread! Back I go!
Link to article:
http://multiculturalcanada.ca/node/328297/full
Deb/AGBF
He succeeded in producing blue gold - a pure 24k gold, with all the characteristics of that metal - its rich warm color was achieved by a thermic process in which gold alloy is fused with other metals.
The Sirio laboratory of gold art also researches ancient alchemical alloys which can be adapted for work with objects and jewelry of esoteric symbolism, such as astrology, energy-amulets, etc.
To that end, we produce exclusively in our laboratory ancient alloys of gold and silver base, but composed of 7 metals, called electro discovery. It was described by Teofrasti Paracelso (1493-1541), who divulged the technique of fusion and its energy power.
These alloys are not simply a mixture of metals in prescribed proportions, but are possible only through specific astrological-alchemical procedures, without which the same mixture of the alloyed elements is impossible to realize.
JewelFreak|1327523772|3111573 said:Deb -- this guy is a flake.
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In other words, he buys his gold in Milan, gets out a dusty book & says some gobbledigook while waving his hands, and ** SHAZAM!**
imbues it with New Age powers. Don't think he'd be real forthcoming about his "non-traditional" methods. I got a huge kick out of reading it. Sorry, Undercover, I don't think this is your guy!
TheDoctor|1327538856|3111787 said:If you can pull any of this off I will fund your successful search for Sasquatch and a bonus for Unicorns.
One major problem with web research is that you never get the whole story.
The purples and blues produced thus far are totally un-workable, can't be milled, cast, or shaped. Can't be worn or altered or enjoyed like jewellery. They are simply colorful little ingots that will crumble because the "alloyed" metals are not homogenous, the grain structure is totally unstable.
Undercover999|1327557147|3112030 said:I tried two things tonight.
I'm done with Au/In.
I made an 18kt Au/Fe alloy (75% Au, 25% Fe).
AGBF|1327587229|3112154 said:Undercover999|1327557147|3112030 said:I tried two things tonight.
I'm done with Au/In.
I made an 18kt Au/Fe alloy (75% Au, 25% Fe).
So are you going to continue to work with the gold and iron (18kt Au/Fe alloy), Undercover? What are you planning to do next? You wrote that before you even posted here you tried making an alloy with iron and nickel as Muller did. Did you try one with copper like Kretchmer?
Deb/AGBF
Gold and silver metal clay is made up of particles of precious metal - pure silver or gold - held together with water and an organic binder. After a metal clay object has been fired with a torch or in a kiln, the water is eliminated and the binder is burned away. What's is left is the pure, precious metal - either fine silver (.999 silver, which is 99.9% silver vs. sterling, which is only 92.5% silver), or 22K gold.
part gypsy|1327960772|3115074 said:Would you consider it "cheating" to enamel a blue line onto a gold ring? After all, it was good enough for the Egyptians. And it would be an interesting skill to know how to enamel! I also think metal doped glass would be pretty as well.