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Back to the drawing board... Looking to purchase a cushion

hotskate

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So I have came to some realization.

I am looking to spend under 12k
Cushion
1.7-2.0
g,h,i
vs2,si1 (a clean si1)
Good, very good cut
great optics
faint to no florecense (figure with a lower color the florecene might make is sparkle and look better color wise?)

i would say more on the squarish side then rectangular for sure.

I have enclosed the ring that i would like to do as well. it will have to be customized due to her ring size and wanting to change it and make it a little unique ;-)

I want to thank you in advanced for your help.

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Re: Back to the drawing board... Looking to purchase a cushi

Is your budget for the stone itself, or the stone and the setting?

Do you want an antique/antique style cushion, or a modern cushion?

Don't despair! You'll find your cushion! You're so wise to return the original one and wait until you find the "right" one.
 

hotskate

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Re: Back to the drawing board... Looking to purchase a cushi

Haven|1339279440|3212773 said:
Is your budget for the stone itself, or the stone and the setting?

Do you want an antique/antique style cushion, or a modern cushion?

Don't despair! You'll find your cushion! You're so wise to return the original one and wait until you find the "right" one.

12 just for the stone

Modernish look.
 

diamondseeker2006

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Re: Back to the drawing board... Looking to purchase a cushi

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/8890/ price is $12,253 looks great except I would want one that was equal sides (square cushion).

now looking at the others...

I think K in a modern cushion will be too tinted yellow, so I am only looking a J or better color

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Cushion-Diamond-1462314.asp close to square, need ASET image and need to know if it is eyeclean

The J VS1 had no picture so you have no idea what it looks like, but it is too rectangular anyway.

One question. That is an antique style setting. Are you sure you don't want to look at antique style cushions? Because I think they'd go better with this setting.
 

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Re: Back to the drawing board... Looking to purchase a cushi

hotskate|1339288765|3212856 said:
Here are four stones I am interested in. Thoughts please.


Not sure the price....
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/8890/ Nice. I like the slightly elongated look of this one, very flattering on the hands


seems kind of round.
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/K-IF-Ideal-Cut-Cushion-Diamond-1471593.asp I adore this one. The four prongs will help square it out. It's chunky faceted so it's suits the K color and still modern-ish in faceting (not overly chunky no maltese cross or anything like that). Great mix and suits the setting to a T!

Like the weight
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/K-SI1-Ideal-Cut-Cushion-Diamond-1493306.asp
Get an ASET
Actual image looks kind of off
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/K-VS1-Very%20Good-Cut-Cushion-Diamond-1384786.asp Center looks really dark. I'd pass

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Cushion-Diamond-1462314.asp I really don't care for this one. It's got a standard four main faceting and it's not a great example of that type

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/J-VS1-Ideal-Cut-Cushion-Diamond-1498411.asp No image
 

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Re: Back to the drawing board... Looking to purchase a cushi

diamondseeker2006|1339290110|3212868 said:
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/8890/ price is $12,253 looks great except I would want one that was equal sides (square cushion).

now looking at the others...

I think K in a modern cushion will be too tinted yellow, so I am only looking a J or better color

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Cushion-Diamond-1462314.asp close to square, need ASET image and need to know if it is eyeclean

The J VS1 had no picture so you have no idea what it looks like, but it is too rectangular anyway.

One question. That is an antique style setting. Are you sure you don't want to look at antique style cushions? Because I think they'd go better with this setting.


As far as the GOG diamond how do you know it is $12,253? how do you know it is not equal sides ? please elaborate

I like the style of the following 3:
Concerned of the "X" if it is Black looking
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/K-SI1-Ideal-Cut-Cushion-Diamond-1493306.asp
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/K-VS1-Very%20Good-Cut-Cushion-Diamond-1384786.asp


http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/K-IF-Ideal-Cut-Cushion-Diamond-1471593.asp

NOT these:
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/H-SI2-Good-Cut-Cushion-Diamond-1489070.asp
 

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Re: Back to the drawing board... Looking to purchase a cushi

You click on "reserve diamond" and it takes you to a shopping cart and the price is shown there. Some brands of diamonds do not allow the prices to be openly posted on the internet but you can see the price if you reserve it. Then remove it if you don't really want to reserve it!

As to the length of the sides, you look at the diameter measurements. 6.5 x 6.55 is basically square shaped whereas 6.9 x 6.1 is more rectangular. You need to think about whether you want a rectangular stone in that setting because I think a squarish cushion is going to look better (unless she prefers rectangular, of course).

In your original post you wrote G,H,I color but you linked K color modern cushions and those are going to be tinted. I think you won't be happy with the color unless she has seen colors below J and likes them.
 

hotskate

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Re: Back to the drawing board... Looking to purchase a cushi

diamondseeker2006|1339292635|3212896 said:
You click on "reserve diamond" and it takes you to a shopping cart and the price is shown there. Some brands of diamonds do not allow the prices to be openly posted on the internet but you can see the price if you reserve it. Then remove it if you don't really want to reserve it!

In your original post you wrote G,H,I color but you linked K color modern cushions and those are going to be tinted. I think you won't be happy with the color unless she has seen colors below J and likes them.

Thank you for that information!

She loved and I honestly liked the previous stone i bought.

cushion 2.09 EGL true GIA VS1 but the EGL color "G" was actually a GIA L (brownish tint). if the price was right i probably wound have returned it.

Me personally do i want a true GIA close to 2 carat g colored VS2 stone yessss :) but its to much money I am pretty sure.

thanks so much for your input
 

hotskate

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Re: Back to the drawing board... Looking to purchase a cushi

diamondseeker2006|1339292635|3212896 said:
You click on "reserve diamond" and it takes you to a shopping cart and the price is shown there. Some brands of diamonds do not allow the prices to be openly posted on the internet but you can see the price if you reserve it. Then remove it if you don't really want to reserve it!

As to the length of the sides, you look at the diameter measurements. 6.5 x 6.55 is basically square shaped whereas 6.9 x 6.1 is more rectangular. You need to think about whether you want a rectangular stone in that setting because I think a squarish cushion is going to look better (unless she prefers rectangular, of course).

In your original post you wrote G,H,I color but you linked K color modern cushions and those are going to be tinted. I think you won't be happy with the color unless she has seen colors below J and likes them.

She likes the 1.0 -1.15ish NOT 1.30
 

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Re: Back to the drawing board... Looking to purchase a cushi

hotskate|1339292878|3212898 said:
She loved and I honestly liked the previous stone i bought.

cushion 2.09 EGL true GIA VS1 but the EGL color "G" was actually a GIA L (brownish tint).


WOW. That's insane.
 

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Re: Back to the drawing board... Looking to purchase a cushi

Gypsy|1339293164|3212903 said:
hotskate|1339292878|3212898 said:
She loved and I honestly liked the previous stone i bought.

cushion 2.09 EGL true GIA VS1 but the EGL color "G" was actually a GIA L (brownish tint).


WOW. That's insane.

Welcome to my journey :angryfire:
 

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Re: Back to the drawing board... Looking to purchase a cushi

Gypsy|1339293164|3212903 said:
hotskate|1339292878|3212898 said:
She loved and I honestly liked the previous stone i bought.

cushion 2.09 EGL true GIA VS1 but the EGL color "G" was actually a GIA L (brownish tint).


WOW. That's insane.

No kidding!!!! :-o That is FIVE grades lower!!! Yikes!

I will say, though, the tints are going to differ in lower colored stones and I would prefer the brownish over yellowish unless I was trying to get a yellow diamond, of course.
 

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Re: Back to the drawing board... Looking to purchase a cushi

diamondseeker2006|1339293556|3212912 said:
Gypsy|1339293164|3212903 said:
hotskate|1339292878|3212898 said:
She loved and I honestly liked the previous stone i bought.

cushion 2.09 EGL true GIA VS1 but the EGL color "G" was actually a GIA L (brownish tint).


WOW. That's insane.

No kidding!!!! :-o That is FIVE grades lower!!! Yikes!

I will say, though, the tints are going to differ in lower colored stones and I would prefer the brownish over yellowish unless I was trying to get a yellow diamond, of course.

That is why this whole thing has been getting so frustrating and difficult :(
 

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Re: Back to the drawing board... Looking to purchase a cushi

Gypsy|1339295390|3212932 said:
Pending an ASET, this one would be my choice. http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/K-IF-Ideal-Cut-Cushion-Diamond-1471593.asp (it's around 8-9k right?).
here is what i found on another thread


ariel144|1339282118|3212801 said:
hotskate|1339281321|3212791 said:
ariel144|1339280056|3212782 said:
The 1.66 is a high K color and faces up exceptionally bright according to the gemologist. The ASET and gemologist's comments are posted on another thread... and is about the same measurements as your other stone. it is a cushion brilliant and very very nice. Both stones are a little over $8,000.

Here is the ASET and the thread:
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/help-what-do-you-think-of-this-antique-cut-cushion.174602/page-3']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/help-what-do-you-think-of-this-antique-cut-cushion.174602/page-3[/URL]

Here is what the gemologist said

"I'm happy to tell you that this diamond is exceptionally bright and has great fire, brilliance, and scintillation. It has a rather round outline and a higher "K" color. This is a gorgeous cushion cut that will give you a fantastic sparkle and look beautiful mounted in any setting. I recommend it highly for your purchase and believe you'll be very happy with it when you see it for yourself. "



http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/K-IF-Ideal-Cut-Cushion-Diamond-1471593.asp

Shape: Cushion
Carat weight: 1.66
Cut: Excellent
Color: K
Clarity: IF
Certificate: GIA
Depth: 66.2%
Table: 58.0%
Polish: Very Good
Symmetry: Good
Girdle: Slightly thick to very thick
Culet: Small
Fluorescence: None
Measurements: 7.26*7.05*4.67
Ratio: 1.03

Thank you.

My only concerns is its more of a true round feel wouldn't i then just try and find a round? Sorry if i am coming across over critical
 

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Re: Back to the drawing board... Looking to purchase a cushi

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The ASET is very nice.
The four prongs look of the setting will help square it off. It's a personal preference. The faceting is NOTHING like a round brilliant and it works with the setting you've chosen-- chunky but still modern-- perfectly. Plus the price on it is great.
 

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Re: Back to the drawing board... Looking to purchase a cushi

A bit smaller than what you're looking for, but GIA H VS2. http://www.engagementringsdirect.com/1.50-carat-h-vs2-a-cut-beyond-cushion-cut-diamond-gid-89203.html (With the caveat that ERD's site is hit and miss for me tonight). I like the idea of an antique-style stone in that setting, this is ideal light performance.

If she's okay with an "honest" L color, here's 1.79 ct AGS L VVS2 http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9247/

This is a bit small, and a bit rectangular, but I find it very pleasing http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/8912/
 

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milton333|1339297900|3212957 said:
A bit smaller than what you're looking for, but GIA H VS2. http://www.engagementringsdirect.com/1.50-carat-h-vs2-a-cut-beyond-cushion-cut-diamond-gid-89203.html (With the caveat that ERD's site is hit and miss for me tonight). I like the idea of an antique-style stone in that setting, this is ideal light performance.

If she's okay with an "honest" L color, here's 1.79 ct AGS L VVS2 http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9247/

This is a bit small, and a bit rectangular, but I find it very pleasing http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/8912/

I already posted GOG 9247 but he doesn't seem interested in the antique style cushions. I agree with you, though!

hotskate, are you the one with the 1.66 K IF on hold?
 

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Re: Back to the drawing board... Looking to purchase a cushi

Laila619|1339312991|3213034 said:
Gypsy|1339295390|3212932 said:
Pending an ASET, this one would be my choice. http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/K-IF-Ideal-Cut-Cushion-Diamond-1471593.asp (it's around 8-9k right?).

Yes, this one is killer and the price is great, especially for an IF stone!

It would be pretty amazing to be able to say I/She has an IF diamond :) i am just concerned that with K color now :( ughh and if i can't see inclusions with the naked eye and am doing K maybe i am better off with BIGGER over IF ...
 

hotskate

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Re: Back to the drawing board... Looking to purchase a cushi

Gypsy|1339297463|3212951 said:
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The ASET is very nice.
The four prongs look of the setting will help square it off. It's a personal preference. The faceting is NOTHING like a round brilliant and it works with the setting you've chosen-- chunky but still modern-- perfectly. Plus the price on it is great.

I understand the prongs and setting will make it look more square i think i would have to agree :)

this is the 1.66 right? (just thinking that maybe i don't need a IF stone and can use more carat weight? I am starting to also be concerned about the K color :( wish i had every one of these stones in hand to compare and see.
 

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Re: Back to the drawing board... Looking to purchase a cushi

diamondseeker2006|1339299776|3212972 said:
milton333|1339297900|3212957 said:
A bit smaller than what you're looking for, but GIA H VS2. http://www.engagementringsdirect.com/1.50-carat-h-vs2-a-cut-beyond-cushion-cut-diamond-gid-89203.html (With the caveat that ERD's site is hit and miss for me tonight). I like the idea of an antique-style stone in that setting, this is ideal light performance.

If she's okay with an "honest" L color, here's 1.79 ct AGS L VVS2 http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9247/

This is a bit small, and a bit rectangular, but I find it very pleasing http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/8912/

I already posted GOG 9247 but he doesn't seem interested in the antique style cushions. I agree with you, though!

hotskate, are you the one with the 1.66 K IF on hold?

Yes I have the 1.66 on hold

K is a large stretch from where i was previously in the first place lol L i do not think i can bring myself to do especially for $13,000 ;/

1.46ct J VS1 August Vintage Cushion Diamond is gorgeous looking at the fact that it is under 1.5 carats though hmmm.. like that it is better color and in the VS range as well.
 

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Re: Back to the drawing board... Looking to purchase a cushi

sorry, E/W means set East to West or the length going across the width of the finger to give more finger coverage as in Haven's ring an Old Mine Cut which is an antique cushion cut stone:

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/its-here-its-here-my-2-30-ct-omb-antique-cushion-upgrade.158760/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/its-here-its-here-my-2-30-ct-omb-antique-cushion-upgrade.158760/[/URL]

The I cushion on James Allen has a really large table (74%) and would not recommend that stone.
 

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hotskate|1339348078|3213181 said:
Gypsy|1339297463|3212951 said:
file.jpg

The ASET is very nice.
The four prongs look of the setting will help square it off. It's a personal preference. The faceting is NOTHING like a round brilliant and it works with the setting you've chosen-- chunky but still modern-- perfectly. Plus the price on it is great.

I understand the prongs and setting will make it look more square i think i would have to agree :)

this is the 1.66 right? (just thinking that maybe i don't need a IF stone and can use more carat weight? I am starting to also be concerned about the K color :( wish i had every one of these stones in hand to compare and see.

Don't focus on the carat weight but look at the measurements of the 1.66...it faces up like a 2 c stone. 7.13 x 7.3 because of the 64% (?) depth which is a great depth.

Right, you do not need an IF stone but this one is really nice even for the price because of the cut plus, according to the gemologist at JA, it is an "high K" color which will make it face up nice and white, and you saved around $4,000 off your budget. A high K color will be so close to a J that you won't be able to tell any difference whatsoever, if there is any difference. Cut is King....not color, but when you look at it in person you will know if it is the one....whichever stone you choose.

Either way you cannot go wrong with any of these stones from GOG, ERD, or the 1.66 from JA.
 

hotskate

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Re: Back to the drawing board... Looking to purchase a cushi

any thoughts on any of these three? they are local. i know we need pictures but just based on report

gia72236e.jpg

GIA69394.jpg

GIA78431.jpg
 

hotskate

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Re: Back to the drawing board... Looking to purchase a cushi

SOrry this one needed to be re-uploaded 13,000

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