1.21 carat H color SI1 vs. 1.01 carat E color VS2

[PlastiKing]

I'm trying to decide which diamond will go better with the halo ring I plan on purchasing. The ring I'll get is from Shane Co. but I'll probably end up getting the diamond from James Allen due to the fact I can get a much better diamond for the same money.

Anyways, the budget is around $6k for the diamond and I've found two I really like.

One is 1.21 carat H color SI1 as you can see here. The clarity looks really good as far as I can see in that 20x zoom. The color definitely looks a little yellowish when compared to the E-colored one, but I'm thinking if it's mounted it probably won't be noticeable.
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.21-carat-h-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2384128

This is the second one, 1.01 carat E color VS2. I really love how bright and clear it is. Side by side, it's no comparison it looks way better. But I'm not sure if that's a good way to judge.
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.01-carat-e-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2337408

I'm also thinking since it's going to be on a halo ring, those small diamonds are probably going to be much closer to H than E so maybe the E might stick out a bit too much or make other diamonds look a little yellowish?

This is the ring I want to choose. I already tried a 1 carat H SI2 "Shane Classic" diamond and it looked really nice, so I'm assuming the one from James Allen will look just as good if not better.
https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/9086/10h/origin-d5.scene7.com/is/image/ShaneCo/ring/570/round-diamond-halo-engagement-ring_41069132_A1.jpg
https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/9086/10h/origin-d5.scene7.com/is/image/ShaneCo/ring/570/round-diamond-halo-engagement-ring_41069132_A2.jpg
https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/9086/10h/origin-d5.scene7.com/is/image/ShaneCo/designer-ring/570/diamond-round_267_267/built-item_41069132_P.jpg

Also, I know this is all really subjective, so really my end goal is to get a diamond that will fit in best on this ring that will provide the best sparkle. Part of me feels like if I get the H colored one, I'll regret it by passing up the E colored one since I feel like that one is more rare and unique. But then again a slightly larger diamond might look better and sparkle more especially when it's mounted.

 

[DiamondFlave]

I'm trying to decide which diamond will go better with the halo ring I plan on purchasing. The ring I'll get is from Shane Co. but I'll probably end up getting the diamond from James Allen due to the fact I can get a much better diamond for the same money.

Anyways, the budget is around $6k for the diamond and I've found two I really like.

One is 1.21 carat H color SI1 as you can see here. The clarity looks really good as far as I can see in that 20x zoom. The color definitely looks a little yellowish when compared to the E-colored one, but I'm thinking if it's mounted it probably won't be noticeable.
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.21-carat-h-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2384128

This is the second one, 1.01 carat E color VS2. I really love how bright and clear it is. Side by side, it's no comparison it looks way better. But I'm not sure if that's a good way to judge.
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.01-carat-e-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2337408

I'm also thinking since it's going to be on a halo ring, those small diamonds are probably going to be much closer to H than E so maybe the E might stick out a bit too much or make other diamonds look a little yellowish?

This is the ring I want to choose. I already tried a 1 carat H SI2 "Shane Classic" diamond and it looked really nice, so I'm assuming the one from James Allen will look just as good if not better.
https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/9086/10h/origin-d5.scene7.com/is/image/ShaneCo/ring/570/round-diamond-halo-engagement-ring_41069132_A1.jpg
https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/9086/10h/origin-d5.scene7.com/is/image/ShaneCo/ring/570/round-diamond-halo-engagement-ring_41069132_A2.jpg
https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/9086/10h/origin-d5.scene7.com/is/image/ShaneCo/designer-ring/570/diamond-round_267_267/built-item_41069132_P.jpg

Also, I know this is all really subjective, so really my end goal is to get a diamond that will fit in best on this ring that will provide the best sparkle. Part of me feels like if I get the H colored one, I'll regret it by passing up the E colored one since I feel like that one is more rare and unique. But then again a slightly larger diamond might look better and sparkle more especially when it's mounted.

1.21 H: Be aware of the comment regarding the clarity grade based on a cloud that is not shown! Such comment in a SI1 stone would make me concerned, as it is the reason for this grade (basically no inclusions shown on the plot). There is a chance that the stone is hazy! Check with vendor!

1.01 E: Pavillion and crown angles are slightly high. Furthermore you should be aware of the fluorescence (especially in an E, that is probably not desired and may make the diamond hazy as well)!

Best,
Flave

PS: would not be to much concerned about GIA H color

 

[PlastiKing]

Thanks for your help.

What should be the range of crown and pavilion angles? I read about 34.5/40.75 being ideal but of course almost every diamond I've seen is off by 1 degree either up or down.

Also, what's the general recommendation to go with a slightly higher carat but lower color and clarity or stick with smaller with better color and clarity? Which one is supposed to sparkle and have the wow factor more?

 

[Lore]

Also, what's the general recommendation to go with a slightly higher carat but lower color and clarity or stick with smaller with better color and clarity? Which one is supposed to sparkle and have the wow factor more?

General guidance is to prioritize CUT quality over all else if you want sparkle! The other C's: carat vs color vs clarity become a matter of taste and budget.

 

[PlastiKing]

Thanks Lore. I was prioritizing cut over all else, however, I wasn't really looking into the specifics (i.e. crown and pavilion angles) but rather just the grades (excellent, ideal, etc...)

What else should I look for when looking for cuts? For example, I found this diamond on WhiteFlash which looks to have better crown and pavilion angles, but unfortunately there's no video of it so it's pretty much a blind guess how it would look.

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3138166.htm

Would you guys say that one is better than the first two I posted?

 

[Lore]

Thanks Lore. I was prioritizing cut over all else, however, I wasn't really looking into the specifics (i.e. crown and pavilion angles) but rather just the grades (excellent, ideal, etc...)

What else should I look for when looking for cuts? For example, I found this diamond on WhiteFlash which looks to have better crown and pavilion angles, but unfortunately there's no video of it so it's pretty much a blind guess how it would look.

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3138166.htm

Would you guys say that one is better than the first two I posted?

You can use the HCA as a way to weed out bad diamonds: https://www.pricescope.com/tools/hca
Based on this tool, I think the WF diamond is cut better than the JA diamonds that you linked, but the inclusions in the WF may be visible to the naked eye. Inquire with their gemologist.
One you've found a few diamonds that are potential candidates (HCA score of <2.0), the next step is to use the IdealScope and ASET images to look for light return - that is a good indication of how your diamond will perform. The WF you linked has a good IS and ASET image (to my relatively untrained eye).

 

[gm89uk]

if you set search parameters to depth 62.3, excellent cut, table up to 58 usually you have a much higher success rate of finding a diamond with ideal angles. I would echo everything said about your two choices, you can do better. Beware the crystal clear video SI diamonds, they have been given that grade for a reason. Cloudy diamonds mostly look crystal clear in the videos, but much more cloudy in real life.

 

[95viper]

I don't know the seller but the 1.11 H VS1 in Pre-Loved forum sounds like a great deal and below budget

 

[PlastiKing]

So today I went in and checked out the ring and they gave me a few of their diamonds to try. They showed me their "Shane Classic" cut which looked good, but it looked a little too yellow next to the small stones in the halo ring. That was another question I wanted to ask. Am I going to have a problem with this? The little stones looked like they were E's or D's compared to the H center stone.

BTW here are the GIA specs for the center stone. It scored 1.8 in HCA tool.

Measurements
6.42 - 6.44 x 4.00 mm
Carat Weight
1.02 carat
Color Grade
H
Clarity Grade
VS1
Cut Grade
Excellent

Depth
62.2 %
Table
56 %
Crown Angle
36.0°
Crown Height
16.0%
Pavilion Angle
40.6°
Pavilion Depth
43.0%
Star Length
50%
Lower Half
80%
Girdle
Medium to Slightly Thick, Faceted, 3.5%
Culet
None

Polish
Excellent
Symmetry
Excellent

Fluorescence
Medium Blue

Clarity Characteristics
Feather, Pinpoint

So while this one looks like it's cut well, that color contrast just kinda took me by surprise. Now I'm afraid even if I get a perfectly cut stone, it might look too yellow. Anyways he said to purchase a diamond online and bring it to the store and they'll price match for a better stone they have. So basically I need to find a stone better than the one with the specs above.

What do you guys think about the color issue? Was that just in my head? Their store was a little darker so maybe that's why there seemed to be drastic color difference?

 

[gm89uk]

How much is the diamond you just talked about? Finding a great diamond with the right proportions within budget is no easy task, ideal cut are rare and difficult to come by, particularly in brick and mortar stores that do not place emphasis on cut. Small melee diamonds generally wi can generally appear whiter, and a larger stone's more obvious dispersion can cause the stone to appear slightly darker. Generally a well cut stone with face up white, while a poorly cut stone will show more colour.

While the stone has potential, I wouldn't buy it without scope images, it is difficult to evaluate stones properly in jewellery store lighting.

How about:

https://www.jamesallen.com/mobile/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.04-carat-f-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2311388
https://www.jamesallen.com/mobile/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.01-carat-h-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2038459

http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-8999354-1.00-carat-Round-diamond-H-color-SI1-clarity.aspx

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/forum/preloved-ps-jewels/1-11-h-vs1-platinum-solitaire-t227176.html']https://www.pricescope.com/forum/preloved-ps-jewels/1-11-h-vs1-platinum-solitaire-t227176.html[/URL] this is the preloved diamond that does seem really quite ideal for what you wanted. Great images

 

[PlastiKing]

How much is the diamond you just talked about? Finding a great diamond with the right proportions within budget is no easy task, ideal cut are rare and difficult to come by, particularly in brick and mortar stores that do not place emphasis on cut. Small melee diamonds generally wi can generally appear whiter, and a larger stone's more obvious dispersion can cause the stone to appear slightly darker. Generally a well cut stone with face up white, while a poorly cut stone will show more colour.

While the stone has potential, I wouldn't buy it without scope images, it is difficult to evaluate stones properly in jewellery store lighting.

How about:

https://www.jamesallen.com/mobile/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.04-carat-f-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2311388
https://www.jamesallen.com/mobile/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.01-carat-h-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2038459

http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-8999354-1.00-carat-Round-diamond-H-color-SI1-clarity.aspx

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/forum/preloved-ps-jewels/1-11-h-vs1-platinum-solitaire-t227176.html']https://www.pricescope.com/forum/preloved-ps-jewels/1-11-h-vs1-platinum-solitaire-t227176.html[/URL] this is the preloved diamond that does seem really quite ideal for what you wanted. Great images

The diamond they offered was around $6.5k, which I mentioned was out of my $6k budget but he said they could work around that. The private seller diamond looks good but I don't know if I'd feel comfortable buying it from any private seller. This is my first diamond purchase and I don't know much about them, so I would rather not buy any high priced item like that from a private seller.

Essentially I want to buy a diamond that is "returnable" in case Shane Co finds a diamond that matches that and they match the price, I'd rather get it from them so I can get the warranty and all that jazz with it. However, I have no problem buying it online from a reputable source and using it if they can't come close to matching, which they probably will not.

From those two James Allen ones, how come the h-colored diamond is lower carat, higher HCA score, yet still more expensive than the f-colored one? Also, as far as those lighter colored diamonds, someone mentioned fluorescence. In this case, what does a medium fluorescence do? Is it going to appear hazy? Just about all these diamonds on JA show "additional clouds not shown" in the GIA report.

 

[Lore]

From those two James Allen ones, how come the h-colored diamond is lower carat, higher HCA score, yet still more expensive than the f-colored one? Also, as far as those lighter colored diamonds, someone mentioned fluorescence. In this case, what does a medium fluorescence do? Is it going to appear hazy? Just about all these diamonds on JA show "additional clouds not shown" in the GIA report.

If I had to guess, the H diamond has less flourescence than the F diamond, so that commands a slight premium. The F's inclusion plot looks worse than the H's too. SI1 doesn't always equal SI1 -- it's a scale, so the H may be at the top of the SI1 scale compared to the F.

 

[gm89uk]

How much is the diamond you just talked about? Finding a great diamond with the right proportions within budget is no easy task, ideal cut are rare and difficult to come by, particularly in brick and mortar stores that do not place emphasis on cut. Small melee diamonds generally wi can generally appear whiter, and a larger stone's more obvious dispersion can cause the stone to appear slightly darker. Generally a well cut stone with face up white, while a poorly cut stone will show more colour.

While the stone has potential, I wouldn't buy it without scope images, it is difficult to evaluate stones properly in jewellery store lighting.

How about:

https://www.jamesallen.com/mobile/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.04-carat-f-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2311388
https://www.jamesallen.com/mobile/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.01-carat-h-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2038459

http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-8999354-1.00-carat-Round-diamond-H-color-SI1-clarity.aspx

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/forum/preloved-ps-jewels/1-11-h-vs1-platinum-solitaire-t227176.html']https://www.pricescope.com/forum/preloved-ps-jewels/1-11-h-vs1-platinum-solitaire-t227176.html[/URL] this is the preloved diamond that does seem really quite ideal for what you wanted. Great images

The diamond they offered was around $6.5k, which I mentioned was out of my $6k budget but he said they could work around that. The private seller diamond looks good but I don't know if I'd feel comfortable buying it from any private seller. This is my first diamond purchase and I don't know much about them, so I would rather not buy any high priced item like that from a private seller.

Essentially I want to buy a diamond that is "returnable" in case Shane Co finds a diamond that matches that and they match the price, I'd rather get it from them so I can get the warranty and all that jazz with it. However, I have no problem buying it online from a reputable source and using it if they can't come close to matching, which they probably will not.

From those two James Allen ones, how come the h-colored diamond is lower carat, higher HCA score, yet still more expensive than the f-colored one? Also, as far as those lighter colored diamonds, someone mentioned fluorescence. In this case, what does a medium fluorescence do? Is it going to appear hazy? Just about all these diamonds on JA show "additional clouds not shown" in the GIA report.

I'm not sure what warranty Shane co are offering that you wouldn't be getting from an online store. Your diamond is pretty reasonable value considering it's vs1.

As for comparing the two diamonds, the HCA score is insignificant. Both are under 2 , 0.3 is not better than 1.8. They may have different flavours, but HCA calculates theoretical light leakage that starts >2. Saying that the are tighter parameters than HCA, which increase your chances significantly of buying a nicer stone, particularly when buying online.

Table 54 to 58
Crown 34 to 35 (35.5 ok with shallower pavilion of 40.6)
Pavilion 40.6 to 40.8 (41 ok with shallower crown of 34)
Depth 59.5 to 62.3.

As for price, a high colour combined with fluor as with the F stone usually commands a discount. Twinning wisps are not under the middle of table but mostly hidden in the crown table edge, do not appear significant. There is a small black inclusion which under the crown facet at 12 o'clock probably also bringing the price down but would most likely be eye clean (Although needs confirmation) by JA. Medium fluor causing haze is an incredibly rare phenomenon, this is usually something that is also rare even with strong fluor and it's very strong fluor that can be risky, particularly in combination with twinning wisps. Additional Clouds not shown wouldn't bother me as clouds are nowhere near the primary inclusion.

The date of certification also will influence price. The price =/= mean the h is a more beautiful or clear diamond. The only way to tell us to ask James Allen for a gemology review of these stones, to ensure they are eye clean and have no haze. Particularly if the F is eye clean. If so I'd consider getting an idealscope requested (but you can only request for 3). You still have no questions asked free 30 days refund and you can compare to the Shane co stone.

Additionally you can invest into an ideal scope or aset and have a look at the stone in the shop. Most stones look beautiful in stores so you want to make sure you look at it under diffuse lighting or outside on a cloudy day. 36/40.6 combo is somewhat tricky GIA round angles 35.8/40.55 may look a lot better than 36.2/40.65 where arrows can start to look washed out etc, so they need to be well looked at.

 

[PlastiKing]

How much is the diamond you just talked about? Finding a great diamond with the right proportions within budget is no easy task, ideal cut are rare and difficult to come by, particularly in brick and mortar stores that do not place emphasis on cut. Small melee diamonds generally wi can generally appear whiter, and a larger stone's more obvious dispersion can cause the stone to appear slightly darker. Generally a well cut stone with face up white, while a poorly cut stone will show more colour.

While the stone has potential, I wouldn't buy it without scope images, it is difficult to evaluate stones properly in jewellery store lighting.

How about:

https://www.jamesallen.com/mobile/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.04-carat-f-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2311388
https://www.jamesallen.com/mobile/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.01-carat-h-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2038459

http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-8999354-1.00-carat-Round-diamond-H-color-SI1-clarity.aspx

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/forum/preloved-ps-jewels/1-11-h-vs1-platinum-solitaire-t227176.html']https://www.pricescope.com/forum/preloved-ps-jewels/1-11-h-vs1-platinum-solitaire-t227176.html[/URL] this is the preloved diamond that does seem really quite ideal for what you wanted. Great images

The diamond they offered was around $6.5k, which I mentioned was out of my $6k budget but he said they could work around that. The private seller diamond looks good but I don't know if I'd feel comfortable buying it from any private seller. This is my first diamond purchase and I don't know much about them, so I would rather not buy any high priced item like that from a private seller.

Essentially I want to buy a diamond that is "returnable" in case Shane Co finds a diamond that matches that and they match the price, I'd rather get it from them so I can get the warranty and all that jazz with it. However, I have no problem buying it online from a reputable source and using it if they can't come close to matching, which they probably will not.

From those two James Allen ones, how come the h-colored diamond is lower carat, higher HCA score, yet still more expensive than the f-colored one? Also, as far as those lighter colored diamonds, someone mentioned fluorescence. In this case, what does a medium fluorescence do? Is it going to appear hazy? Just about all these diamonds on JA show "additional clouds not shown" in the GIA report.

I'm not sure what warranty Shane co are offering that you wouldn't be getting from an online store. Your diamond is pretty reasonable value considering it's vs1.

As for comparing the two diamonds, the HCA score is insignificant. Both are under 2 , 0.3 is not better than 1.8. They may have different flavours, but HCA calculates theoretical light leakage that starts >2. Saying that the are tighter parameters than HCA, which increase your chances significantly of buying a nicer stone, particularly when buying online.

Table 54 to 58
Crown 34 to 35 (35.5 ok with shallower pavilion of 40.6)
Pavilion 40.6 to 40.8 (41 ok with shallower crown of 34)
Depth 59.5 to 62.3.

As for price, a high colour combined with fluor as with the F stone usually commands a discount. Twinning wisps are not under the middle of table but mostly hidden in the crown table edge, do not appear significant. There is a small black inclusion which under the crown facet at 12 o'clock probably also bringing the price down but would most likely be eye clean (Although needs confirmation) by JA. Medium fluor causing haze is an incredibly rare phenomenon, this is usually something that is also rare even with strong fluor and it's very strong fluor that can be risky, particularly in combination with twinning wisps. Additional Clouds not shown wouldn't bother me as clouds are nowhere near the primary inclusion.

The date of certification also will influence price. The price =/= mean the h is a more beautiful or clear diamond. The only way to tell us to ask James Allen for a gemology review of these stones, to ensure they are eye clean and have no haze. Particularly if the F is eye clean. If so I'd consider getting an idealscope requested (but you can only request for 3). You still have no questions asked free 30 days refund and you can compare to the Shane co stone.

Additionally you can invest into an ideal scope or aset and have a look at the stone in the shop. Most stones look beautiful in stores so you want to make sure you look at it under diffuse lighting or outside on a cloudy day. 36/40.6 combo is somewhat tricky GIA round angles 35.8/40.55 may look a lot better than 36.2/40.65 where arrows can start to look washed out etc, so they need to be well looked at.

Awesome, thank you so much for your help. I will look around some more but I might give this F diamond a shot. Like you said, they do have 30 day money back so I can always return it.

What I like about Shane Co's warranty is they will do as many cleanings, re-sizings, replacing lost stones, etc... as long as you do the annual 2 checkups. Being that I'm buying a halo ring, I'm pretty sure one of those small diamonds will eventually pop out and get lost since there's a lot of them and just based on probability.

However, that center diamond they showed me just looked off color compared to the smaller stones so that had me worried a bit despite scoring a good HCA score. So I'm hoping this F one will be brighter and look like it belongs together.

 

[Dancing Fire]

Thanks Lore. I was prioritizing cut over all else, however, I wasn't really looking into the specifics (i.e. crown and pavilion angles) but rather just the grades (excellent, ideal, etc...)

What else should I look for when looking for cuts? For example, I found this diamond on WhiteFlash which looks to have better crown and pavilion angles, but unfortunately there's no video of it so it's pretty much a blind guess how it would look.

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3138166.htm

Would you guys say that one is better than the first two I posted?

Nice stone if it is "eye clean"

 

[PlastiKing]

Thanks Lore. I was prioritizing cut over all else, however, I wasn't really looking into the specifics (i.e. crown and pavilion angles) but rather just the grades (excellent, ideal, etc...)

What else should I look for when looking for cuts? For example, I found this diamond on WhiteFlash which looks to have better crown and pavilion angles, but unfortunately there's no video of it so it's pretty much a blind guess how it would look.

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3138166.htm

Would you guys say that one is better than the first two I posted?

Nice stone if it is "eye clean"

Unfortunately they said it is not eye clean as the inclusions are visible from 8-10 inch distance which is pretty significant.

I will give the JA stone a shot.
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.04-carat-f-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2311388

If anyone has any suggestions as to what I should look out for when it arrives, I'm all ears. Thanks everyone for your help so far, you've been really helpful.

 

[bmfang]

Thanks Lore. I was prioritizing cut over all else, however, I wasn't really looking into the specifics (i.e. crown and pavilion angles) but rather just the grades (excellent, ideal, etc...)

What else should I look for when looking for cuts? For example, I found this diamond on WhiteFlash which looks to have better crown and pavilion angles, but unfortunately there's no video of it so it's pretty much a blind guess how it would look.

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3138166.htm

Would you guys say that one is better than the first two I posted?

Nice stone if it is "eye clean"

Unfortunately they said it is not eye clean as the inclusions are visible from 8-10 inch distance which is pretty significant.

I will give the JA stone a shot.
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.04-carat-f-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2311388

If anyone has any suggestions as to what I should look out for when it arrives, I'm all ears. Thanks everyone for your help so far, you've been really helpful.

That one has a rather busy inclusion plot. Here's to seeing what the JA gemologists come back to you with.

 

[gm89uk]

Thanks Lore. I was prioritizing cut over all else, however, I wasn't really looking into the specifics (i.e. crown and pavilion angles) but rather just the grades (excellent, ideal, etc...)

What else should I look for when looking for cuts? For example, I found this diamond on WhiteFlash which looks to have better crown and pavilion angles, but unfortunately there's no video of it so it's pretty much a blind guess how it would look.

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3138166.htm

Would you guys say that one is better than the first two I posted?

Nice stone if it is "eye clean"

Unfortunately they said it is not eye clean as the inclusions are visible from 8-10 inch distance which is pretty significant.

I will give the JA stone a shot.
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.04-carat-f-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2311388

If anyone has any suggestions as to what I should look out for when it arrives, I'm all ears. Thanks everyone for your help so far, you've been really helpful.

That one has a rather busy inclusion plot. Here's to seeing what the JA gemologists come back to you with.

Personally I trust an SI diamond where the grade setting inclusions are visible in the video compared to the crystal clear video. But yeah the gemologist review is essential. I would add, define what you mean by eye clean to JA, they may not give you as robust as an assessment as WF unless you direct them so. Specify eye clean from 6 inches, ? From the side, not cloudy at all etc

 

[PlastiKing]

Just wanted to give you guys an update. I ended up getting the JA diamond and it looked great. When I brought it in to Shane Co. to compare to their Shane Classic Cut, it definitely wasn't as fiery, but it was pretty close. What's more important is it looked better inside the ring in my opinion due to it being an F color compared to the H.

Anyways, they found another Shane Classic Cut that's an F color and the price will be similar to that of the JA so we shall see how that one compares. Thinking about it now I probably should have bought JA True Hearts cut as that one might be more comparable to the Shane's Classic Cut, however, that would have been just to say HAHA my diamond is better than yours. Anyways, I will see in a few days when that one comes. I will either stick with the JA diamond or go with theirs if it looks and performs similarly.

I have noticed that looking at these diamonds is that the well cut ones are all very similar and it won't be a night and day difference so it's not worth it to obsess over it, just pick the one that looks best in the ring and call it a day.

 

[gm89uk]

Thanks for the update! Let us know how you decide to go forward and looking forward to pictures of the final product!