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ruby59|1487451433|4130573 said:
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I am saying that the President snapping as this reporter was an unfortunate reaction to the awful way the press is treating him.

Did you see the report in that left wing paper accusing the President of having STDs and that is why he is acting this way.


When you are treated so badly by the press, and polls have shown that people trust Trump more then they do the press, then this is an unfortunate consequence.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...he-conservative-media/?utm_term=.434791fb0ed8

There will always be stupid speculation, and it is certainly not limited to Trump. What Trump is a "victim" of is criticism- something he doesn't like and wasn't ready for- and is absolutely deserving of. His every move will be scrutinized, just like many presidents before him. And of COURSE, no one likes criticism, but any good president learns from it, or moves past it, and understands the importance of a free press. A good, stable, honest president does not declare "the media" an enemy of the people.

Worth a watch: https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/832796352211935233
 

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Calliecake|1487452235|4130576 said:
Ruby, MOST of us do not view the press as treating the President badly. I find it comically that you said this. It is his job to ask tough questions from the press. If he can't handle that, which clearly he can't, he should have never taken the job. We should all be grateful we have a press that does their jobs and asks the tough questions. The President handled himself terribly in his last press conference. It was embarrassing to watch.

Watching him in that press conference is almost as embarrassing as watching people here contradict themselves in order to defend someone who isn't defensible. It's sad and shocking.
 

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lovedogs|1487458630|4130605 said:
Calliecake|1487452235|4130576 said:
Ruby, MOST of us do not view the press as treating the President badly. I find it comically that you said this. It is his job to ask tough questions from the press. If he can't handle that, which clearly he can't, he should have never taken the job. We should all be grateful we have a press that does their jobs and asks the tough questions. The President handled himself terribly in his last press conference. It was embarrassing to watch.

Watching him in that press conference is almost as embarrassing as watching people here contradict themselves in order to defend someone who isn't defensible. It's sad and shocking.

Again with your absolute statements.

Where have I contradicted myself?
 

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arkieb1|1487431505|4130470 said:
This is exactly the issue I have had all along, he is an irrational idiot, in this to line his own pockets, who never deserved to be elected leader of the free world. Most countries don't trust him, and a lot of Americans don't trust him. Nor should you. People seem to think me asking the questions that explain why this happened is pointless because they already have lists of answers, it's true there are exponential theories, many worth reading on the internet for why Trump won and why the Dems lost.

For me, the blame game is over, instead perhaps it would be better if we all reflect why you allowed this despicable person to get to where he is. The truth is the conservatives are at fault for putting him there, and the liberals are even more at fault for creating a situation or set of circumstances, where people felt such hopelessness that this was the very best option. And when conservatives attack me as being one sided, or when liberals say why do I want to listen to the other side anyway, it's not about sides any more - history is going to remember this as a time when you ALL lost your way. .....

Where the hell did you get this idea?! Just because some Trump apologists/supporters say they felt hopeless and put the blame on Obama/the Democrats/liberal elites doesn't make it true. Did anyone here actually answer your question HOW exactly they were marginalized or made hopeless by O/D/LE? Could anyone?!?

Economy and the loss of manufacturing jobs: You know for people who favor small government, "no handouts", and free-market capitalism, it is ironic they want the federal government to prevent companies from moving their manufacturing overseas. But ignoring that little bit of hypocrisy, did Republicans and Trump supporters conveniently forget how Republicans blocked bills that end a tax deduction to companies that offshore jobs and give a 20% tax credit to those companies that bring in (inshore) jobs? One of them is the Bring Jobs Home Act https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/s2569#summary/libraryofcongress

Security: I think a lot of people mentioned a desire for security as a reason for voting for Trump. Was the US attacked by terrorists from the outside since Obama came into office? I believe all of the attackers were home-grown (i.e. US-born or citizens). But Trump issued an Executive Order to block refugees and other people from certain countries from entering the US -- nevermind that they're not the countries the 9/11 attackers were from. This seems to make the Trumpists feel safer and happy. Of course, they conveniently forget or are ignorant (I suspect the latter) of the fact that refugees already go through 2 years of vetting (see http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/01/30...-did-nothing-similar-to-your-immigration-ban/). And it disregards the fact that this act of alienating Muslims may actually promote home-grown extremism (see https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/18/...se-against-a-muslim-ban.html?ref=opinion&_r=0, https://behavioralpolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/1-2/BSP_vol1no2_Lyons_final.pdf)

Crime: crime rates in general have fallen.

So, while I agree it's not about sides anymore, there are still facts and truth, and they do not support what you wrote.
 

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i meant to watch Fox news after the press conference to see how they would promote or defend Trump's performance but I didn't have a chance to (DH and I watched a bit on Friday night and . . . oh boy!). Instead, here's an article I just read regarding Trump supporters' positive reactions. Posting so posters with negative reactions have a glimpse into the other side in addition to those provided by a few PSers.


Trump voters applaud press conference

While the establishment politicians and the left scoff at President Trump's Thursday press conference, Trump voters celebrate a victorious display of confidence. After a week of rampant speculation about selective leaks from the intelligence community, Trump boldly took to the East Room podium to address a room full of inquisitive journalists.

Undeterred by critical reporting, Trump did not cower behind a press secretary with carefully crafted words, as most politicians would do. Instead, he himself spoke directly to the American people, breaking through the interpretive lens of the media.

Trump voters deemed his press conference a success for several reasons: He directed the conversation back to the issues; he showed his undeterred fortitude in tackling the tough questions; and he corrected the record.

According to the latest CNN poll, 90% of Republicans approve of the way Trump has handled the presidency thus far. Often left out of the media narrative are the reasons why Republicans feel this way. GOP voters look to the President and see a litany of accomplishments: a soaring stock market, withdrawal from the Trans-Pacific Partnership, elimination of job-killing regulations, expedited permit approval, a hiring freeze on nonessential federal workers and a task force for reducing violent crime, among others. All this in just three weeks.

These accomplishments, however, rarely garner media attention, except for Thursday when Trump listed them before a captive media audience, saying "I'm making this presentation directly to the American people with the media present. ..."

In addition to placing a spotlight on his work, Trump showed his willingness to tackle tough questions rather than hide from them. During the Republican primary, Trump was open to interviews from all media outlets, both hostile and friendly. While other politicians granted few interviews and were reserved in their media access, Trump was known for his unprecedented openness in taking on any interviewer.
For Republican primary voters who applauded Trump's willingness to address criticism head on, Thursday was a return to the candid, refreshing straight talk for which Trump has become so beloved.

But perhaps most importantly of all, Trump's press conference provided a needed retort to the onslaught of speculation surrounding intelligence leaks that have consumed the news cycle. From the resignation of national security adviser Mike Flynn to leaked suggestions that Trump campaign affiliates communicated with Russian intelligence officials, Americans were given a select and partial set of facts provided by leakers.

Amid these leaks, many unknowns persisted. For instance, very few individuals have seen the transcripts of Flynn's conversation with the Russian ambassador. Nevertheless, commentators have speculated that Flynn acted inappropriately in his discussion with the ambassador.

Trump, who presumably has been briefed on the transcript, used his press conference to defend his former national security adviser, justifying the content of the call while emphasizing the flawed way Flynn communicated his call to the vice president.

Trump also provided a retort to the nefarious assumptions that he and his campaign staff had connections with Russia. He emphasized that "nobody that I know of" had any contact with Russian intelligence officials and rebutted the sinister suspicions that the left has inserted into the factual gaps left open by the leaks.

Rather than dodging questions on these distracting leaks, Trump willingly answered them -- not through a scripted press secretary -- but directly from the mouth of the President to the ears of the people.

Although the establishment forces that repeatedly underestimated Trump saw Thursday's press conference through a prism of negativity, Trump's voters cheered in the reassurance that we finally have a "politician" who governs as he campaigned.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/16/opinions/donald-trump-voters-applaud-press-conference-mcenany/index.html
 
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