Updates, anyone?

[antiquesparkler]

I can't believe my SO still hasn't proposed yet.

Sorry

Boys ARE stoooopid.

He's probably trying to suprise you with a really amazing proposal. Hang in there.

 

[madelise]

Yes, stupid stupid boys. LOL. My annoyance comes in waves. I hate him a few minutes of the day, then I get grateful that I found him. Then annoyed all over again. Heh. S'okay! I just can't believe he hasn't. I really thought he'd have hot potato hands, and toss that thing to me ASAP!

 

[CaprineSun]

Ladies, today was the first time I cried about not being proposed to yet. I didn't think I would ever have to come to tears over this, but I think today was it for me. The ring has been done for 6 months now. He visited our home town and was there for 2 weeks on business. I thought for SURE out of those 2 weeks he would meet with my parents to ask for my hand in marriage.

While that part is supposed to be a surprise, I figured I would know when it happened if he had dinner with them. My plan was to still act oblivious about it though. BUT he only went over to my house & had dinner my mom had cooked for him for a very short time before she had to leave-- because he was several hours LATE. But, he promised he would meet up with them later in the week.

I had some hope it would happen when my father let me know that my SO called him to meet up later in the week. However, he never saw my father, because my SO never set a time or appointment with them. Today is my SO's flight back from home & he said he wouldn't be able to see my parents again before leaving. I couldn't believe it. My So said he would not propose before asking my parents & now, I know it won't happen before the end of this year. I know he's not trying to trick me either because my mother sounded very frustrated last I spoke to her about us not being engaged yet-- as if it's my wanting. It's not, but I can't tell her that I know he has a ring & that I'm DYING over here waiting. And, I secretly smiled because I *thought* my SO would finally be coming to my parents about proposing to me soon. I was wrong.

I am so upset. What is taking him so long? Why is he dragging his feet? Why is it to the point that I'm in tears? I'm a good catch! Many guys would have 'put a ring on it' by now. For being with someone for so long, always talking about marriage, I shouldn't have to get upset or give an ultimatum for him to propose. That makes me more upset. Because once I tell him how upset I am, he may feel compelled to rush & propose just to appease me or not lose me. I have ALWAYS dreaded that. I do NOT want a proposal like that! But, I don't think I can wait in eager anticipation much longer for a man to propose to me. Plus, the humiliation I feel now from people around me also waiting & wondering why this man won't marry me. I mean, I got a RING POP for my secret santa at work because someone thinks if they don't give me a 'ring,' I'll never get one, since my own SO is stalling so much. I laughed about it at first, but with the recent events, it has really gotten to me now.

I'm thinking of moving on.... Seriously.

I don't think I'll be posting on LIW anymore & I'm debating removing myself from the list. This is too much.

 

[MBKRH]

Oh Caprine, I am so sorry to hear about all that. Are you SURE they aren't all tricking you? Maybe he did ask them for your hand, and you're parents are playing along like it didn't happen? I'm trying to find the positive here.

I know exactly how you feel, though. And that incident with the ring pop- ouch! (Sounds like something coworkers would do to me). I don't know if I would have been able to keep my composure after that.

If I remember right, you've been together for over six years, correct? Hon, that's a long time to spend with someone, and if you're having feelings of doubt, you need to listen to your gut. I was in the same boat, but there was NEVER talks of marriage, the future, etc. Yet I stuck around like a dumb@ass..... miserable, and waiting. But, you are right - you shouldn't have to give an ultimatum or force him into anything. It will happen when the time is right, if he is truly the one for you.

I wish you the very best in whatever you decide. *hugs*

 

[sweetpea&babycorn]

Aw CaprineSun, I'm so sorry your bf came home and made you so disappointed I apologize for not being up to date on your situation, but perhaps you can talk to him about how upset it made you, and maybe have another conversation about where you each other? Perhaps at some point, you guys ended up on different pages about your timeline, and you guys just need to get together again and have an open and understanding conversation. I will never for the life of me understand why guys drag their feet like this, or miss open and easy opportunities such as your bf's to talk to the family. Your parents sound lovely and understanding, and just as eager as you for you guys to be engaged, so I can't imagine how it would be a difficult conversation with him.

If you love him, and he's clearly committed to you and wants a future with you, and the only thing that is frustrating you is that he hasn't proposed yet, I wouldn't give up! Please talk to him first, and understand what is going through his mind. It's very hard when you've been so patient for the proposal. You guys are going to spend forever with each other, and I don't feel that him not proposing is a good enough reason to end things. If he truly is doubting your future together, then it's time to take a step back. But please open up to him and let him know how upset it made you that he didnt' make an effort to meet your parents.

 

[CaprineSun]

@ MBKRH : Yes, the ring pop gift really hurt. It was from one of the few colleagues I confided in about waiting. We had to open up gifts in front of everyone.
Yes, we've been together for a long time. I'm not having doubts. Moreso, it's my pride & dignity at this point. This is ridiculous.
And, whenever I bring it up that, he adamantly states that marrying me is no question & looks at me appalled like why would I even question it. I mean, he did put down thousands for the ring, but now I wonder if he just did it to hold me off. But.... I know him & he would never throw money away so frivolously. I dunno... I know he really wants to plan something nice, but it's taking over 6 months to do it?!

@ sweetpea&babycorn :
You are right. A proposal is not something to end things over, but I can't help but feel like he's starting to take me for granted.-- OR taking the fact that we are destined to be married one day for granted. I dunno... I don't like this anymore.
Re: timeline-- we are totally on the same page regarding timeline. We have accomplished our goals & ready to settle down. That is what is so frustrating. I know he is expecting another promotion in a few months..maybe that's it? But why?

Thank you for letting me vent. I will talk to him when I'm less emotional. I had already decreased my activity here to keep my mind off it, but now I may take a break or something.

 

[sweetpea&babycorn]

Aw, hun, it IS frustrating and I'm so glad you can vent here. I think everyone here has been in your place at one point or another in the waiting game. You are in our thoughts, take as much time as you need. Sending as much positive dust your way! <3 <3

 

[pandabee]

Caprine I'm sorry waiting is giving you so much agony at the moment...I don't have any words of advice, but know that we are always here to support you with whatever you need. I hope you continue reading and hang out with us, even if you don't feel like you want to continue posting for a while. I hope you come back with good news soon!

 

[MBKRH]

I am so aggravated right now. The diamond I liked is now reserved, so on our way to the casino tonight I said "you better win it big so you can buy the band to go with the diamond that's on hold." Long story short, he said "babe I don't have 2 grand to spend on a band, I just don't."

So, what, am I supposed to pick out a cheap @ss ring from Kmart or something thatll turn my finger green? Ugh!

I don't understand. He gives me a budget, I find something I like that's half of it... And its too much. WTH.

Sorry if there's typos, I'm on my phone. I'm trying so hard not to cry right now. I know I sound like a brat.... But am I really being too unreasonable here?

 

[LoveLikeCrazy]

I am so aggravated right now. The diamond I liked is now reserved, so on our way to the casino tonight I said "you better win it big so you can buy the band to go with the diamond that's on hold." Long story short, he said "babe I don't have 2 grand to spend on a band, I just don't."

So, what, am I supposed to pick out a cheap @ss ring from Kmart or something thatll turn my finger green? Ugh!

I don't understand. He gives me a budget, I find something I like that's half of it... And its too much. WTH.

Sorry if there's typos, I'm on my phone. I'm trying so hard not to cry right now. I know I sound like a brat.... But am I really being too unreasonable here?

Do you think he bought the stone, or are you hoping it was him who bought the stone? And band...meaning wedding band or setting for the diamond? (I'm sorry if I'm not following, I am a little slow tonight). The bf can't afford the ring till the car is paid off right?

I think if he did buy the ring, maybe he can't afford the band at this time? I thought the car had about a year to be paid (if I'm remembering correctly), so if he did in fact buy a diamond, isn't hat a good thing...like way ahead of schedule??

I don't think you are being a brat at all. I think we are all in the same boat, that's why we are here! Maybe you can help fund the band to get what you want?

I'm sorry you are having a bad night

 

[LoveLikeCrazy]

Caprine, I'm sorry you have to go through that you are handling it much better than I ever would

 

[gregchang35]

Really sorry to hear that things are not going right with the ladies. It seems that money and timing is the issue. This may sound off hand, but I am just going to suggest something out of left field. Sorry if it offends. I just feel your angst and want things to move along for you all. So some suggestions that may help?????

Is there a way for the ladies to help with the finances without the SO getting too macho about it- it's his thing to get you. These days it's about the partnership and in most r/ships both parties work. In the days of old, then men worked and the women didn't and the ring was to promise a life together for richer or poorer.....men worked and women stayed at home.....and so on. The ring is then bought and then all he needs to so is do the actual proposing.

Or. The ladies can propose with the ring of their choice??

Just some thoughts to help with the sentiments???!

sorry if i offended you and happy to have you slap me or the moderator to remove this post.

Hugs to all and hope the chrisTmas/ festive period is an enjoyable one.

 

[MBKRH]

I am so aggravated right now. The diamond I liked is now reserved, so on our way to the casino tonight I said "you better win it big so you can buy the band to go with the diamond that's on hold." Long story short, he said "babe I don't have 2 grand to spend on a band, I just don't."

So, what, am I supposed to pick out a cheap @ss ring from Kmart or something thatll turn my finger green? Ugh!

I don't understand. He gives me a budget, I find something I like that's half of it... And its too much. WTH.

Sorry if there's typos, I'm on my phone. I'm trying so hard not to cry right now. I know I sound like a brat.... But am I really being too unreasonable here?

Do you think he bought the stone, or are you hoping it was him who bought the stone? And band...meaning wedding band or setting for the diamond? (I'm sorry if I'm not following, I am a little slow tonight). The bf can't afford the ring till the car is paid off right?

I think if he did buy the ring, maybe he can't afford the band at this time? I thought the car had about a year to be paid (if I'm remembering correctly), so if he did in fact buy a diamond, isn't hat a good thing...like way ahead of schedule??

I don't think you are being a brat at all. I think we are all in the same boat, that's why we are here! Maybe you can help fund the band to get what you want?

I'm sorry you are having a bad night

I'm sorry, as I said I was on my phone, so it was hard to elaborate. For the band, I mean the the setting. No, I know he didn't buy the stone. And yes, nothing until the car is paid off.

I think my point that I couldn't quite get across is the fact that he gave me a budget of 6 grand. The stone and setting were about $3200 or so. And now he's saying that's too much. I just want to throw my hands in the air at this point. I don't know what else to do. I've already compromised the size of the stone to meet his budget, and it's not enough. I mean, jesus........ I'm not asking for a five-figure ring here!

I dunno.... thank you for your sympathies. I'm just so down right now.

 

[MBKRH]

Really sorry to hear that things are not going right with the ladies. It seems that money and timing is the issue. This may sound off hand, but I am just going to suggest something out of left field. Sorry if it offends. I just feel your angst and want things to move along for you all. So some suggestions that may help?????

Is there a way for the ladies to help with the finances without the SO getting too macho about it- it's his thing to get you. These days it's about the partnership and in most r/ships both parties work. In the days of old, then men worked and the women didn't and the ring was to promise a life together for richer or poorer.....men worked and women stayed at home.....and so on. The ring is then bought and then all he needs to so is do the actual proposing.

Or. The ladies can propose with the ring of their choice??

Just some thoughts to help with the sentiments???!

sorry if i offended you and happy to have you slap me or the moderator to remove this post.

Hugs to all and hope the chrisTmas/ festive period is an enjoyable one.

Thanks for your input.
For me, no- I can't help with the finances. I'm paying back student loans, over $200 a month between two credit cards, the car insurance for both our cars plus renter's insurance, and then of course rent, utilities, other bills, etc....... living in the Chicago suburbs is NOT cheap, and I make less than 30K a year, even with my degree. I don't have extra money, ever.

I want to be proposed to. I couldn't see myself doing it, and it wouldn't feel right to me.

Again, thanks for your input- no offense was taken. I appreciate your thoughts.

 

[LoveLikeCrazy]

Awe I'm really sorry MBKRH. Tough situations. Maybe he set the "budget" but doesn't actually have the funds saved yet? I have a budget, but SO is currently saving, so even though I know, and he knows what he is getting, the funds aren't there yet to spend. I also think its great you found something less than half the budget, maybe if he can let you know when the time is right and you can find another deal!

I know this time of year sucks, lots of engagements...try to keep your chin up and you know this is the perfect place to vent.

 

[Chewbacca]

Hmm. MBKRH, could it just be flat out money-stress? He might be unable to entertain thoughts about this sizable purchase before he chases down the bulk of his current bills. My SO feels stressed when I want something, and he can't 'give it to me' for whatever reason - I'm getting a bit of that perhaps also?

Please don't cry!

 

[MBKRH]

Thanks ladies. I know he doesn't have the funds, so I wasn't talking about immediately. But Chewy, I think you hit the nail on the head- it very well could be money stress. I'm hoping so. It's just the way it sounded last night- almost like I'll end up with a Kmart ring, and only as a "shut-up" ring, which hurt.

I know I've said this before, but I'm done bringing it up to him. I really am this time. His comments stung, and I don't think he realizes it.
I will just be venting here more and more.

 

[antiquesparkler]

I am so aggravated right now. The diamond I liked is now reserved, so on our way to the casino tonight I said "you better win it big so you can buy the band to go with the diamond that's on hold." Long story short, he said "babe I don't have 2 grand to spend on a band, I just don't."

So, what, am I supposed to pick out a cheap @ss ring from Kmart or something thatll turn my finger green? Ugh!

I don't understand. He gives me a budget, I find something I like that's half of it... And its too much. WTH.

Sorry if there's typos, I'm on my phone. I'm trying so hard not to cry right now. I know I sound like a brat.... But am I really being too unreasonable here?

Hugs to you MBKRH

I can understand how you feel. Maybe sit down and talk to him to have a timeline and budget in place. It takes 2 people to be in a relationship and I am a strong believer in being on the same page and keeping your SO in the loop. Its a really tough conversation to have but he needs to be honest with you about a timeline and a budget.

I dont think you are being a brat at all.

Hang in there. We are here to listen!
(and you will be listening to me b@#$& next month! )

 

[MBKRH]

I am so aggravated right now. The diamond I liked is now reserved, so on our way to the casino tonight I said "you better win it big so you can buy the band to go with the diamond that's on hold." Long story short, he said "babe I don't have 2 grand to spend on a band, I just don't."

So, what, am I supposed to pick out a cheap @ss ring from Kmart or something thatll turn my finger green? Ugh!

I don't understand. He gives me a budget, I find something I like that's half of it... And its too much. WTH.

Sorry if there's typos, I'm on my phone. I'm trying so hard not to cry right now. I know I sound like a brat.... But am I really being too unreasonable here?

Hugs to you MBKRH

I can understand how you feel. Maybe sit down and talk to him to have a timeline and budget in place. It takes 2 people to be in a relationship and I am a strong believer in being on the same page and keeping your SO in the loop. Its a really tough conversation to have but he needs to be honest with you about a timeline and a budget.

I dont think you are being a brat at all.

Hang in there. We are here to listen!
(and you will be listening to me b@#$& next month! )

Thanks for the awesome advice, antique. I'm going to wait a little bit before bringing up the timeline/budget talk again, though. As I said, I'm feeling a bit hurt right now and I really don't feel like talking to him about the topic. When he's ready to talk, I'll bring it up, but right now I'm sure he's felt suffocated by all this e-ring talk from the past couple of months. I'm going to give him some breathing room.

 

[antiquesparkler]

I am so aggravated right now. The diamond I liked is now reserved, so on our way to the casino tonight I said "you better win it big so you can buy the band to go with the diamond that's on hold." Long story short, he said "babe I don't have 2 grand to spend on a band, I just don't."

So, what, am I supposed to pick out a cheap @ss ring from Kmart or something thatll turn my finger green? Ugh!

I don't understand. He gives me a budget, I find something I like that's half of it... And its too much. WTH.

Sorry if there's typos, I'm on my phone. I'm trying so hard not to cry right now. I know I sound like a brat.... But am I really being too unreasonable here?

Hugs to you MBKRH

I can understand how you feel. Maybe sit down and talk to him to have a timeline and budget in place. It takes 2 people to be in a relationship and I am a strong believer in being on the same page and keeping your SO in the loop. Its a really tough conversation to have but he needs to be honest with you about a timeline and a budget.

I dont think you are being a brat at all.

Hang in there. We are here to listen!
(and you will be listening to me b@#$& next month! )

Thanks for the awesome advice, antique. I'm going to wait a little bit before bringing up the timeline/budget talk again, though. As I said, I'm feeling a bit hurt right now and I really don't feel like talking to him about the topic. When he's ready to talk, I'll bring it up, but right now I'm sure he's felt suffocated by all this e-ring talk from the past couple of months. I'm going to give him some breathing room.

Yes, it definatley doesn't have to be today or tomorrow. Just soon, so you dont feel so yucky about the whole topic. I have tried so hard to keep quiet about the ring but sometimes I cant help but make a comment... I am a little worried that when we do get engaged... I might resent him for making me wait so long. I too, need to take a breather from talking about it.

We can work on keeping quiet together!

 

[LoveLikeCrazy]

my friend was in this situation (kinda), she always dreamed of a tacori ring. The same day that me and SO went to T&Co to look at rings, she showed him the tacori she wanted, she told him she didnt care what diamond was in it, that she just loved the setting haha. It was the winter and their timeline was in the spring to be engaged and he wanted to know what she liked. He dragged his feet...wouldn't go look in person - then lowered the budget to 4k. She was hurt, she had her heart set on the tacori, but she found something new she liked. Again months(and timeline) went by and he still wouldn't go look at the ring she liked. They had a blow out...hurtful things were said. She felt like he could care less what she liked and would just buy anything. They went to bed angry. I felt horrible, i didn't know what to say to her. The next morning he woke up and told her, he only wants to spend 2k and he will now go look at rings with her. They bought a ring that day. It came down to communication. He wanted to give her what she wanted - but he couldn't afford it. She felt like he should have been upfront in the first place, and she wouldn't have been hurt He told her that he needs to keep his savings to put towards a house since she has nothing to contribute. It makes more sense NOW, but seeing her going through it sucked. So i think like everyone said...communication is HUGE. it can prevent a lot of heartache.

We started looking at rings a bit premature at 4 months in. It was his idea...i thought i would be getting a ring sooner...YAY ME! Nope. Bad idea...LOL. I was hurt and asking about it a lot, until he explained that he wants to get me what i want, but he has to save the money for it first. I figured, wth are you taking me looking at them without money?!?! LOL Our timeline is 2013...i have no idea other than it will prob be summer or later (this is just me guessing). i know he has money going from his paycheck to a ring account. i know the ring i want is not cheap. I think the cutest thing though is when he pulls up the pic of ring on his phone and tells me he can't wait till its on my finger!

You def need cooling off time, but after the holidays when life is back to normal, a good convo will put everything in place for you - so the expectations will be in line with the timeline. I think most of of have gone through what you are going through to a certain extent, so we all understand. I hope you can put it aside for a few days to have a great holiday!!! Hugs

 

[pandabee]

I am so aggravated right now. The diamond I liked is now reserved, so on our way to the casino tonight I said "you better win it big so you can buy the band to go with the diamond that's on hold." Long story short, he said "babe I don't have 2 grand to spend on a band, I just don't."

So, what, am I supposed to pick out a cheap @ss ring from Kmart or something thatll turn my finger green? Ugh!

I don't understand. He gives me a budget, I find something I like that's half of it... And its too much. WTH.

Sorry if there's typos, I'm on my phone. I'm trying so hard not to cry right now. I know I sound like a brat.... But am I really being too unreasonable here?

I'm so sorry love...I think not bringing it up for a while may be a good idea. I'm sure he doesn't want you to pick out a cheapo ring...maybe he is just in over his head at the moment with finances in general? Lots of hugs and dust for you.

 

[mandasand]

Madelise - how are you doing? I hope you are enjoying the holidays and trying not to worry TOO much about the proposal!

MBKRH- it sucks when guys tell you one thing but then change their minds later. My SO hasn't changed the budget but his budget isn't a huge amount to begin with, compared to PS standard. He's just frugal. He has been kind of a butthead about timing. It's now been a year since we've seriously talked about getting engaged. I thought it would happen a long time ago. I have just stopped focusing on it.

Greg-I think many women would be willing to help with the ring and I kmow many here have. I offered to help since I am financially independent (we both have careers and we don't share our incomes. We split everything 50/50 and will do so even when we are married). But, my SO said he wants the e-ring to be his gift to me, especially since we are pretty business-like about our finances. It's a sweet gesture on his part. He does often "tease" me that I can propose to him, but I sort of feel like it would be nice to have some traditional aspects of our relationship.

 

[madelise]

Madelise - how are you doing? I hope you are enjoying the holidays and trying not to worry TOO much about the proposal!

Whoa, I completely missed the last few posts! Thanks for thinking of me, Manda.

I actually got some resolve today. I have been making snide jabs at him every once in a while since our anniversary, obviously showing my contempt for him not proposing. Well, it looks like I will be a LIW for at least another month. He broke down the barriers and let me know about a situation that is beyond him, and beyond us, that will postpone our engagement. There are some things that need to be taken care of first. I feel horrible and guilty for thinking he was dragging his feet or falling out of love with me. I was seriously crying almost every day for the last few weeks since our anniversary. I thought he changed his mind. I thought he got sick of my chattiness, my messiness or who knows what else. I was so focused on being upset at him that I didn't notice a bunch of white hair he has grown lately. It turns out he has many burdens he carries, on top of the many responsibilities he has to taking care of me, and one of those burdens has gotten quite heavy lately. I feel so selfish and guilty now. All I had been caring about was ME-ME-ME and being upset at him for not giving me what I want.. when there are a bajillion things that are bigger than me.

I'll be a little more patient. He truly is the best thing ever. He's so selfless, and is a great great man. I am lucky to have bumped paths with him, and so so lucky for everything to align so perfectly for us to meet.

 

[MayFlowers]

madelise, I'm so happy to hear that you are feeling a little better about your situation. It's in our nature to be selfish and when you are thinking about something so exciting and life-changing as an engagement, it's very easy to put up blinders to everything else that may be going on. I hope that this burden passes for your BF quickly not only so that he may propose to you, but also so that his stress is lessened.

I will try to post back with an update from me later on. Right now I'm getting ready to meet a few friends for lunch.

 

[LoveLikeCrazy]

so glad you are feeling better about the situation Madelise! It's poopy when things are inhibiting the forward motion ESP when it's something you are unable to control. And I think we are all a little selfish with the ring blinders, not even taking into account aching besides the ring, why he hasn't bought it, why he hasn't given it...lol. We can all benefit from taking a step back and imagining "his" side and what they are up against.

I am happy that you also got to talk to him so now you know what it is and not every bad thought you thought it was!

 

[Impudent_Crumpet]

madelise, I'm sorry that your Dude is going through such a tough time. I hope that the trials he is going through will bring you closer together in time, making THE MOMENT all the more special when it comes around at last

 

[pandabee]

Madelise - how are you doing? I hope you are enjoying the holidays and trying not to worry TOO much about the proposal!

Whoa, I completely missed the last few posts! Thanks for thinking of me, Manda.

I actually got some resolve today. I have been making snide jabs at him every once in a while since our anniversary, obviously showing my contempt for him not proposing. Well, it looks like I will be a LIW for at least another month. He broke down the barriers and let me know about a situation that is beyond him, and beyond us, that will postpone our engagement. There are some things that need to be taken care of first. I feel horrible and guilty for thinking he was dragging his feet or falling out of love with me. I was seriously crying almost every day for the last few weeks since our anniversary. I thought he changed his mind. I thought he got sick of my chattiness, my messiness or who knows what else. I was so focused on being upset at him that I didn't notice a bunch of white hair he has grown lately. It turns out he has many burdens he carries, on top of the many responsibilities he has to taking care of me, and one of those burdens has gotten quite heavy lately. I feel so selfish and guilty now. All I had been caring about was ME-ME-ME and being upset at him for not giving me what I want.. when there are a bajillion things that are bigger than me.

I'll be a little more patient. He truly is the best thing ever. He's so selfless, and is a great great man. I am lucky to have bumped paths with him, and so so lucky for everything to align so perfectly for us to meet.

Just keep remembering that!! It really sucks that there are things beyond both of your control, but at least you know for sure it wasn't a problem with your relationship and I'm sure that is definitely comforting. I hope all is well very soon and you guys can move forward and get your bing bing!!!!

 

[lin_ny]

UPDATE! I am NOT engaged yet!

But I'm happy!

I've taken a few months off PS and turns out it's been pretty good for me to get my mind off stuff. I was so anal about the diamond and the ring and instead of trying to control the entire situation, I completely let everything go. Now when he proposes although I might have an idea of what it'll look like, I'll be a total surprise exactly how it looks and how it all came together!

We moved into our new house and now that the holidays are over, we can finally BREATHE and relax. I'm not even sad that he didn't propose around Christmastime... my parents were here and everything was stressful!

Seems like some LIW are having some struggles and I just hope it gets better for y'all! I know this isn't any great advice or anything, but I've really been channeling the "Let go of the things you can not change" motto. It's working for me!

 

[madelise]

Thanks ladies, I really am happy, really. Knowing it isn't me, or our relationship is such a load off my shoulders. I think this will help me be patient for a little while longer

Linny! I'm glad you're back! Happy new year! and congratulations on the new house!!!